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Library of Congress 1900's chemtrails PostFri Aug 01, 2008 2:11 pm  Reply with quote  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178250823/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178251775/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179040590/in/set-72157603671370361/
Check out some old photos to see if you can spot chemtrails, I have been able to spot them as far back as 1880's in old photos. Colour ones show it better though so look for ones that have been converted to colour.

Library of Congress have a flickr account:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/sets/72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178257713/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178257391/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179050422/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178258311/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179051008/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179051642/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178260891/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179054572/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178263255/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179056030/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178263687/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178264447/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178275153/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178275503/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178285893/in/set-72157603671370361/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179118860/in/set-72157603671370361/
Chemtrails - nothing new!
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PostFri Aug 01, 2008 2:56 pm  Reply with quote  

1800's you say, interesting considering the first powered flights didn't get off the ground before 1903. The photos of the skies you are looking at are not the same as what we are seeing these MODERN JETS spew out now.


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http://www.wright-house.com/wright-brothers/wrights/1903.html
Wright Brothers History
First Airplane Flight
1903 would become a year for the history books. That year the Wright brothers, Orville and Wilbur Wright, would fly the first powered, controlled, heavier-than-air airplane at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina on December 17, 1903.
Most people don't know that it was not in 1903, but in the 1800s, that the Wright brothers, working with kites, had worked out the key issue for flight: control.
While other aviators searched in vain for "inherent stability," Orville and Wilbur created a method for the pilot to control the airplane. The real breakthrough was their ingenious invention of "wing-warping." If the pilot wanted to bank a turn to the left, the wings could be warped to provide more lift on the wings on the right side of the biplane. The brothers worked out a system for 3-axis control that is still used today on fixed-wing aircraft: left and right like a car or boat (a rudder), up and down (the 1903 Wright "Flyer" had its elevator in the front), and banking a turn as birds do (or like leaning to one side while riding a bicycle). Working with kites in 1899, the brothers figured out and tested their systems for 3-axis control, and in the next two years did experiments with gliders at Kitty Hawk, and then with their wind tunnel, to find the proper lift. They found that the formula for lift - namely the "Smeaton coefficient" that everybody had been using for over 100 years - was wrong. By the time they built their 1902 glider, they had worked out all the problems and they knew it would fly. The 1902 glider was actually the first fully controlled heavier-than-air craft, and some historians believe it was the main invention - essentially the invention of the airplane - and more important than the 1903 biplane. So it was on March 23, 1903 - nine months before the famous first airplane flight of December 1903 - that Orville and Wilbur Wright filed a patent application for a "Flying Machine." The patent was awarded May 22, 1906. That's when the aviation world started to copy the Wright's designs, and from that point remarkable progress was made in the development of powered flight.




http://www.nps.gov/wrbr/
They Taught the World to Fly!
Wind, sand, and a dream of flight brought Wilbur and Orville Wright to Kitty Hawk, North Carolina where, after four years of experimentation, they achieved the first successful airplane flights in 1903. With courage and perseverance, these self-taught engineers relied on teamwork and application of the scientific process. What they achieved changed our world forever.


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PostFri Aug 01, 2008 3:00 pm  Reply with quote  

Definitely.

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Originally posted by starman1
The photos of the skies you are looking at are not the same as what we are seeing these MODERN JETS spew out now.



How do we know? We have a few samples and lab test results that no one takes seriously. Aside from declassified documents on operations of biowarfare experiments and weather modification....
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PostSat Aug 02, 2008 2:34 am  Reply with quote  

I am moving this thread out of the chemtrails section, so as to not have it on the front page of this site. I am sorry if that offends you FWO, but I think it is the right to do. When you make the claim that you are seeing chemtrails in the pictures from the 1800's, prior to the flight of airplanes, let alone Jets, I think you are hindering the awareness movement. I hope that is not your intended purpose with this thread, but I do believe that is what it is aimed at doing. If not, maybe you can elaborate a little about what the heck you are trying to accomplish with it so we are all clear...
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I am moving this thread out of the chemtrails section, so as to not have it on the front page of this site. I am sorry if that offends you FWO, but I think it is the right to do. When you make the claim that you are seeing chemtrails in the pictures from the 1800's, prior to the flight of airplanes, let alone Jets, I think you are hindering the awareness movement. I hope that is not your intended purpose with this thread, but I do believe that is what it is aimed at doing. If not, maybe you can elaborate a little about what the heck you are trying to accomplish with it so we are all clear...


Funny because I made that claim for over a year - read older posts....if you cannot prove or disprove anything on this forum...no wonder so many members come and go.

Hindering awareness? You really are a true comedian! If you or anyone else on here wants awareness use science or people will take you for a joke.

Very convenient that it has nothing to do with the fact that contrails were around back then and are now?
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PostSat Aug 02, 2008 1:35 pm  Reply with quote  

I do believe http://www.contrailscience.com has scientific explanations for how/why contrails/chemtrails were existent before aircraft existed.

http://www.contrailscience.com

So it seems all the moderating is done to make chemtrail believers into contrail believers, I mean that is all it ever has done on this site/forums. Big surprise how we have had so many members claim this site was owned or infiltrated. It does a fine job for the so called opposition.

As for awareness - well we know millions already know and do nothing.

http://contrailscience.com/how-many-people-believe-in-chemtrails/

Contrails in 340BC
http://contrailscience.com/an-early-contrail/
Either by day or a little after sunset, in fine weather, a little, light, long-drawn cloud is seen, like a long very straight line.
- Aristotle, Meteorologica, 340BC

Not every long straight line in the sky is a contrail. Here Aristotle suggests itís ďa sort of wave-mark in the airĒ. Basically an isolated row cloud, low on the horizon.

Aristotleís take on the weather is very interesting. He has quite an extensive section on atmospheric optics - halos, sundogs, etc. Pretty advanced for 2347 years ago.

There actually WERE contrails before airplanes were invented, just rather rare, and of a different sort. Hereís an image of one from 1751, showing how it formed, and how it was distorted by the wind.

TRY to disprove it!

Very Happy And it is the only explanation as to how they existed before aircraft were invented! I have been posting that they existed before aircraft for years on this forum - only now have I been censored! Maybe that is how power corrupts.


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There actually WERE contrails before airplanes were invented, just rather rare, and of a different sort.


Most people are too lazy to research facts.
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PostSun Aug 03, 2008 7:39 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by Free World Order
I do believe http://www.contrailscience.com has scientific explanations for how/why contrails/chemtrails were existent before aircraft existed.

http://www.contrailscience.com

So it seems all the moderating is done to make chemtrail believers into contrail believers, I mean that is all it ever has done on this site/forums. Big surprise how we have had so many members claim this site was owned or infiltrated. It does a fine job for the so called opposition.

As for awareness - well we know millions already know and do nothing.

http://contrailscience.com/how-many-people-believe-in-chemtrails/

Contrails in 340BC
http://contrailscience.com/an-early-contrail/
Either by day or a little after sunset, in fine weather, a little, light, long-drawn cloud is seen, like a long very straight line.
- Aristotle, Meteorologica, 340BC

Not every long straight line in the sky is a contrail. Here Aristotle suggests itís ďa sort of wave-mark in the airĒ. Basically an isolated row cloud, low on the horizon.

Aristotleís take on the weather is very interesting. He has quite an extensive section on atmospheric optics - halos, sundogs, etc. Pretty advanced for 2347 years ago.

There actually WERE contrails before airplanes were invented, just rather rare, and of a different sort. Hereís an image of one from 1751, showing how it formed, and how it was distorted by the wind.

TRY to disprove it!

Very Happy And it is the only explanation as to how they existed before aircraft were invented! I have been posting that they existed before aircraft for years on this forum - only now have I been censored! Maybe that is how power corrupts.


quote:

There actually WERE contrails before airplanes were invented, just rather rare, and of a different sort.


Most people are too lazy to research facts.

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Funny because I made that claim for over a year - read older posts....if you cannot prove or disprove anything on this forum...no wonder so many members come and go.

Hindering awareness? You really are a true comedian! If you or anyone else on here wants awareness use science or people will take you for a joke.

Very convenient that it has nothing to do with the fact that contrails were around back then and are now?



You have not been censored here, but you are on the verge of something worse. And you call me a comedian... You claim the moderating here is attempting to make chemtrail believers into contrail believers, but in fact it is actually YOU who has linked to all these contrail sites, and YOU making the claim that they (chemtrails/contrails) have existed before the 1900's. Trust me, it is YOU who have earned the title of comedian and if YOU'RE not careful with YOUR post and YOUR tone, YOU will also earn the right to wear the banned tag. It is not corrupt to use the power one is given when it is warranted, and YOUR menacing post do not intimidate me.
I do not believe nor advocate that chemtrails are just contrails, and I have never suggested such a thing to anyone ever. So do not make such claims, or prove me wrong. Show me where I have ever made such a claim to anyone. I know you can't, so don't waste any more of your time.
And, to claim that contrails existed before aircraft did is a misuse of terms.
The term contrail itself is a sub term derived from the term vapor trail, which is by definition, "a visible trail of condensed vapor left by an aircraft flying at high altitude" (Encarta Dictionary:English (North America))
There may be pictures of clouds that exist before aircraft flew that appear to be straight or contrail like, but they are not contrails as you have stated and YOU also cannot "prove" otherwise. And, they certainly would not be considered chemtrails. So again I ask what are you trying to accomplish with this thread???


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PostSun Aug 03, 2008 8:52 pm  Reply with quote  

Perhaps the point is that what many people today mistake as chemtrails - both natural clouds and normal aircraft contrails - are not chemtrails.

Therefore, to see chemtrails we need to look elsewhere?

Are these alleged chemtrails reported daily on this forum really nothing more than a magician's trick - making you look the wrong way whilst he performs a sleight of hand?

How do we know chemtrails are visible? How do we know they are sprayed at high altitude?

Who do we trust?
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