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Ellyn
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Massive spray operation in Ventura/LA Counties on Feb. 20
 Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:36 pm
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A massive spray operation began in Ventura/Los Angeles counties in Southern California, around midnight. I observed trails similar to the above photo toward the east at 12:55 a.m. The sky was absolutely covered in trails this morning. Nine photo can be seen of the chemtrail operation around 9:30 a.m. (page 3), and six in the afternoon around 2:30 (DSC00394-401; pages 3 & 4) at:
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/569521832jLreYV?start=24 . Just double click to see an enlarged photo.
By afternoon, many of the trails had blended together in what looks like white chemtrail blanket covering the entire area; however, more of those very thick, miles long trails were being laid, as well as the on again off again trails.
Moving on to about 4:20 p.m., photos 101-0402 through 101-0408 were taken. Then, around 5:30 p.m., photos 101-0409 through 101-0412 were taken. All these can be seen on page 4 at:
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/569521832jLreYV?start=36
Everytime I went outside to take photos, the spray planes were continuing to actively spray trails, even during late afternoon.
The forecast had been for a cloudless, blue-sky day with lots of sunshine. |
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PAK
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:13 pm
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But an 'expert' weather person is going to be either a) a liar of b) in on the conspiracy
So-called "expert" weather person does not have to be in on the conspiracy, in fact, they just read off a teleprompt. It seems "cleavage" is now a requirement for many weather-women on some stations. And, our local weather stations have now switched and are called "storm trackers", year round; weather has become a "crisis" now in America and really, the world over. We have raging forest fires going on all over - get real. Fire has ALWAYS been used as a weapon in war; burning people out is an old tactic, now the dominant minority can blame the weather to move people off their land.
These weather people come on our local channel and show the sky, all whited out with trails and claim it's a wonderful, clear, blue sky day. I guess white skies are now clear blue, and maybe snow will be black if the "experts" say it is so.
Funny thing too, jet traffic is down, people can't afford to fly, the airlines are going broke, but my gosh, there are days when I can hardly keep count all the planes criss-crossing over my head, forming a checkerboard of white mush and low level "cirrus" clouds. I would say this is an "open conspiracy" as it is now in your face.
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:36 pm
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PAC,
The checker board/grid patterns can be easily explained by Patrick Minnis of NASA. He says they are random trails being pushed together by the prevailing winds, making it look like a grid.
But he doesn't mention that you can watch the grids forming as planes go back and forth, back and forth. He is a tool. |
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:03 pm
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True Dat Marklookingup!!! |
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Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:14 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by PAK
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But an 'expert' weather person is going to be either a) a liar of b) in on the conspiracy
So-called "expert" weather person does not have to be in on the conspiracy, in fact, they just read off a teleprompt. It seems "cleavage" is now a requirement for many weather-women on some stations.
Well I would never consider a TV weather person to be an expert for exactly that reason. Just because they read the forecast doesn't mean they know any more than you do.
I mean real meterologists. In the UK people who have a degree and work for the likes of the MetO and Meteogroup. |
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Ellyn
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| Unusual cloud formations
Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:43 am
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Take a look at these photos of cloud formations, taken on February 22, 2009, in Ventura County, California. The first four were taken around 2:30 p.m. and the last two around 5:00 p.m. No rain came from these clouds.
I was watching some of the Oscars on TV around 3:30 p.m. and saw the same cloud formations over Hollywood, CA; however, there were long strips of blue sky between each row.
Just double click the photo to enlarge.
http://community.webshots.com/album/570223220FOTCXF
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PAK
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Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:43 am
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I mean real meteorologists. In the UK people who have a degree and work for the likes of the MetO and Meteogroup
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All they need to do to get their masonic degree is regurgitate what has been given to them. They don't need to evaluate nor think for themselves. Square the head and all they are is another brick in the wall, so their credentials are flawed depending on the books they've read. Science is altered daily and those in control can make anything they want, like low level cirrus clouds, the new normal. Children born since the late 1980's know nothing else. Those of us born before the 1960's know something quite different. The ancients knew the world was round, 10,000 years ago in SUMER yet we are to believe that this wasn't discovered until the Renaissance. Like believing we "EVOLVED from APES" not true. Humans have been on this Earth for millions of years according to the dating methods used by those who claim DARWINISM is TRUE. Scientists have lied all through the ages, you must read and evaluate all you have read along with your own experience and deduction to find the Truth. We have been lied to and continue to be lied to always.
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Foolsbane
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Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:29 pm
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Mark-
It is not JUST Minnis who can explain "grid" patterns this way...it is logic...it is every atmospheric scientists who has studied contrails.
If a plane leaves a persistent trail...and it drifts with the upper winds...as they are known to do...and then another planes flies along a similar flight path...leaving a similar trail...
...and then another plane flies a relatively perpendicular path...leaving a persistent trail...and Voila! A "grid" pattern...
Does every "pattern" have to have nefarious intent behind it??
Where is the logic??
Is every atmospheric scientist lying???
Its so typical- anyone who disagrees with the herd must be a paid shill.
Ellyn- what is so "unusual" about those clouds??
Nature is filled with patterns....
The world if filled with pictures of clouds looking very similar...
What is your expertise such that you can discern what is "unusual" or not?
Have you ever studied cloud microphysics?
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Ellyn
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Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:32 pm
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I am not calling those clouds chemclouds; I am calling them unusual. The long rows of them looked pretty unusual to me. I just wanted to have others thoughts on them. They produced no rain.
http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/570223220FOTCXF
I wasn't able to take photos of what they looked like in Hollywood where I observed them while watching some of the Oscar presentations; however, I observed long strips of blue between each row. |
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Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:48 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by PAK
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I mean real meteorologists. In the UK people who have a degree and work for the likes of the MetO and Meteogroup
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All they need to do to get their masonic degree is regurgitate what has been given to them.
You obviously don't know many professional meteorologists  Not that I can comment on the situation in the USA.
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The ancients knew the world was round, 10,000 years ago in SUMER yet we are to believe that this wasn't discovered until the Renaissance.
I was always taught the ancients knew Earth was round and that it was even measured - to a surprising degree of accuracy - over 3,000 years ago .....
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Like believing we "EVOLVED from APES" not true.
Indeed not. Both we and apes evolved from a common ancestor.
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Humans have been on this Earth for millions of years according to the dating methods used by those who claim DARWINISM is TRUE.
Homo sapiens sapiens has been around maybe 200,000 years. But the likes of homo erectus, probably our direct ancestor, has been around - and using basic tools (like chimps and dolphins do for example) for several million years.
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Scientists have lied all through the ages
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PAK
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:11 pm
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I was always taught the ancients knew Earth was round and that it was even measured - to a surprising degree of accuracy - over 3,000 years ago .....
You missed my point. In the Middle Ages most people believed the world was flat because that is what they were taught by the educated elite. Obviously, there were those educated Priests and scientists who knew quite well that the Earth was round but continued to teach people that the Earth was flat. People were executed for going against the ruling scientific belief of that day (except those authorized). It is just like today, preaching the doctrine of "global warming" by supposed degreed scientists who are lying to the public to achieve an agenda of reduced population along with a reduced standard of living for the majority of the people, not themselves of course. They will continue to consume as much energy and have the lavish lifestyles they believe they deserve.
It is no different than the spraying of the skies. All the meterorologists, except a handful, will regurgetate what they are taught, will not expose the spraying because most get up in high positions of science because they tow the line, they will keep the secret of the military industrial complex. Their salaries depend on it; there's no profit in revealing the truth. They will alter science to fit the new facts, like cirrus clouds appearing at less than 10,000 feet, naturally.
And if you believe that the governments and corporations have not consolidated their power centrally, then you are sadly living in deception. The British people are as broke as the US people. We have no say. We owe our souls to the Central Banks and the ruling elite because we are heavily in debt to them. The Elite have just up and moved the bulk of their production to China, using tax money from our labor and abusing the slaves of China; the Chinese people have no more say in their government than we do and their visible leaders are just puppets like our Presidents and Prime Ministers. Your former Prime Minister, Blair, now works behind the scenes for global government. I watched a special on your Queen and Blair was absolutely groveling over her, drooling like a panting dog. It was sickening.
I suggest you read "The Hidden History of the Human Race-FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY by Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson for more truth about our ancestry and how old man truly is. Man and Ape did not come from a common ancestor, although it is very conceivable that man has been tampering with both man and animals for a very long long time and that we today may not be as intelligent as our ancestors were.
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PAK
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:18 pm
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Some "natural" low-level" cirrus type clouds. And jets below 30,000 feet leave natural contrails of ice crystals-hmmmm. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19369923@N03/?saved=1
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Foolsbane
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:38 pm
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Funny...they look identical to persistent contrails...and the ambient cirrus clouds would suggest that conditions were ripe for persistent contrails...
So, tell us Pak...How did you determine the altitude??
Look up and guess?
oh- and jets can leave contrails below 30K feet...but I am sure you already knew that. |
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PAK
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:56 pm
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Funny...they look identical to persistent contrails...and the ambient cirrus clouds would suggest that conditions were ripe for persistent contrails...
So, tell us Pak...How did you determine the altitude??
Look up and guess?
oh- and jets can leave contrails below 30K feet...but I am sure you already knew that.
I know the altitude because the few commercial planes that fly in and out of our airport, can be seen flying above these trails despite the fact that they are just taking off or landing. And, I can see these planes quite clearly. Curious too is the fact that all these ghost jets, that are difficult to see and photograph, make absolutely no noise, unlike the military jets in air shows that are loud.
I have also witnessed at NASCAR events, military jets flying above the race track, leaving no trails, rattling the whole arena so that my insides vibrated as they passed over the track, then disappearing into a sky full of trails that were made by mysterious planes leaving thick plumes while the blue angels left none.
Countless people have now documented and photographed low level cirrus clouds that obviously cannot be made of ice crystals and these have become the new normal cloud cover.
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Foolsbane
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Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:27 pm
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No offense but your anecdotal "evidence" as the altitude of the trails is just not credible...
Those persistent contrails look quite hight to me...and the fact that you cannot hear the planes suggests that they are very far away.
try again.
Next time- trying taking a real measurement:
http://contrailscience.com/measuring-the-height-of-contrails/
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Countless people have now documented and photographed low level cirrus clouds that obviously cannot be made of ice crystals
Countless?? I have yet to see one. |
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