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Ellyn
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Are cirrus clouds really chemtrails/chemclouds?
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Take a look at the numerous photos at this website of what I consider to be chemtrails and chemclouds. There are several pages of them, and at no time is there any mention of these patterns coming from aircraft of any sort.
The website owner has several CIRRUS subnames for various formations. At the bottom of each page are several page numbers one can look at.
http://www.clouds-online.com/cloud_atlas/cirrocumulus/cirrocumulus.htm |
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marklookingup
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:45 am
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IMO, there are no longer any natural high clouds. |
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:11 pm
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Yes, IMHO I agree....And have felt that way a long time. When going to cities like London, Manchester, or Birmingham in the UK I always notice very low level and high level floating chem clouds, this was years before I even knew the word chemtrails and always thought they looked like some chemical factory was on fire letting off toxic fumes. And I commented on it very often to people but they had no opinion or idea, totally clueless.
Some aware people on the other hand have agreed to me that chemclouds are not all that crazy to believe are real! And this is the first time I have told when I told them, but then these are cool people that like activism and to protest on a daily basis and do this for their career! People from teens to late 60's. And they agree that London has mostly chem cloud days, and of course the pioneers in names for clouds said only so many types of clouds can make rain but now we have many more that do! yet the sceptics on here outrightly deny this when the evidence is there out in the open hidden from their ignorance.
We know pharmaceutical companies that used to run concentration camps across Europe now own patent rights to aerosolised medicine for spraying mass populations against either biowarfare or for spraying drugs such as anti depressants, and I think it is the only explanation, I am bursting with energy. not as much as I used to be but so many people are so flat as it is, they have no get up and go! Now there is a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why, they are dumbed down and sedated down. Daily in food, water and air!! Not to forget the death towers - cell phone towers.
If you have a power cut some day and think you may be sensitive to EMF because our brain uses EMF and our body does. Then you may feel energised to natural levels again. Its the EMF smog and chemsmog we have daily pounding us and immune systems! Yeah, I am blacklisted as a whacko for saying this but do I GAF!!! NO!! mindless narrow minded conformists, die or make change! The elite will ensure so...
Funny thing is in Manchester they do do weather modification research at their university  Kind of seems about right that they have multi coloured and illuminous clouds floating about! 
When I researched the multi coloured clouds - well their are aerosols for that - patented, so people it all exists and is out there to find if you want to see it for what reality really is and not just your dumbed down perspective of what you think reality is.
One day when I was in a northern city, some fleet of jets flying in a formation of a V shape as they do! (actually commerical jet liners do not! ) Flew so low down over a parking lot I thought they were about to crash into nearby buildings. No one else blinked an eyelid though, so....in cities like London biggest airport in the world and then Manchester jets take off every 1 - 3 mins so i guess people are used to it, but the ones I saw were just flying over in military style formations no paint on at all - just all white. And no way near any local airports. Needless to mention there were plumes of aerosols belching out of each one, at such low levels how anyone could miss this is beyond me. Under 3,000 feet. Anyway some of them split up and starting playing chicken in flying right up to each other then only missing by inches, so how the hell can normal commercial jet pilots do this! Only military pilots get this kind of training. And at this stage of reading you already are thinking what a nutter. LOL. DO I care! No one ever believes or understands anything (not just NWO, or open conspiracy) until they experience the same!
When it comes down to it though, yes it matters what and if is in the aerosols. We know declassified documents prove and openly admit the UK sprayed toxic biowarfare on over 2.3 million as military operations to see how the Soviets biowarfare would have spread. In response to this the government says the biochem material was harmless and caused no illness, yet lawsuit says otherwise and is why so many were and are ill in such areas of where the spraying was done, they cannot ever prove it though even though the government admit this because it cannot be attributed to the sole cause, even if only in a rural area the government will claim any other pollution source or factor may have caused this. Same goes for the pharma cartels, they always use the same excuse until it is a dead end for them.
So will we get change or action if we continue to spread awareness, not unless we have mega bucks at the same time because we will fail to attract enough academics and so called loser experts that so many of the masses worship. So if we just go with the environmental line of contrails we are more likely to get something done but not for another 30 years. Even under EU laws. They are only interested in eco taxes until the masses wake up to the fraud and call it so. It is entirely up to you the people what strategy you use to make change. Peace usually works best, no one changes when they do not want to, not unless they are forced to, and only government and corps do that. Which causes more harm than good always.
Some day in the future people may have a mind open enough to ask the simple question how was it all the millions of loser scientists never had any intelligence or simple sense as to know what was going on for so long.
There are plenty of good honest, ethical people around, but they are not often the ones to take control of power instead others do this and abuse it, so this is still done over the power of the good. And I was told they will prevail in the short term, but in the long term good will happen. If we do our part. Not all is as it seems.
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:39 pm
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FWO is correct. Not only high clouds but very low level clouds are no longer natural. Nothing natural can occur in an unnatural environment and since the atmosphere has been heavily altered, then a natural cloud can no longer form. Heavy cloud cover, at low altitudes is now the norm, across the whole country. Here are pics from a flight I took in May out of Chicago ORD, low level clouds hit just at takeoff, the atmosphere is hazy above Earth and highly reflective. I could see trails right above us and caught pictures of flying into one of the trails. The neat little rows of clouds, very low, about 5,000 feet, as we were up at over 30,000 feet. You look down on Earth through a haze now, nothing is clear.
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:30 pm
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Nice photos PAK. 
That is why I was so scared when spraying stopped for two days...some summers ago now...clear blue skies. And not one trail in sight not anywhere over the horizon, barely any mist left. But plenty of particulate matter to prevent natural clouds forming. This was all during zero aircraft activity. Then the next day was followed by complete sky covered trails again resulting in complete cover within 40-120 mins.
A flame thrower would not get through this nanotech aerogel
http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/2008/04/ten-futuristic-materials/
Now why not use nanotech, they already do! As is part of DHS research under biowarfare defense project. http://www.nano.gov
Just in case anyone protests against the biowarfare side they have uses for environmental aerosols that are nanotech based....to be sprayed in the atmosphere.
We all know the reason why we have genetically modified foods is thanks to bioware science. And the reason we have biowarfare terror threats is because the corp-governments make the warfare fall into the so called wrong hands. All for strategic purposes.
The cartels won't rest until nature is completely replaced with nanolife Who will stop them!
I recommend any who isinterested to research the origins of transhumanism - it goes back to genocidal maniacs and Nazi genetic engineering experiments - eugenics. They just changed the name to transhumanism so it is more politcally correct and sounds more friendly, this time people with different skin colour won't just be wiped out but all life on earth if they have their way all natural life will become extinct to be replaced by entities that have no emotions. They teach this sick false science at major universities across the world.
All of this is interconnected, interrelated. As much as you may think it is off topic. Non of this is by sheer accident, but pure design with intent and purpose.
We only understand once we have researched history and the origins of the purpetrators. There are many paper trails in the trillions if we care to look. All multi national corps in these biotech, pharma, oil, chemical, cartels are dirty and have blood on their hands. The world over. back during the Nazi era they openly worked as one global conglomerate of merged cartels, even UK companies supported German companies when we were at war with them!
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| Few of these "cloud" formations look natural to me
Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:55 am
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For more fake "clouds," take a look at the website: Bariumblues.com at:
http://www.bariumblues.com/index.htm
I took the time this evening to take a look at all of the photos on the website I initially posted above, http://www.clouds-online.com/cloud_atlas/cirrus/cirrus.htm, and a large majority of them, not just the "cirrus cloud" formations (which I commented on initially) look fake to me.
After many years of viewing aerosol activity, I have at times viewed them being created a number of times. I particularly remember the "puff ball" or "cotton candy" experiments I saw so much of in eastern Washington state. These were really sad excuses for natural clouds.
http://www.clouds-online.com/cloud_atlas/cirrus/cirrus.htm
Cirrus
Cirrostratus
Cirrocumulus
Altocumulus
Altostratus
Stratocumulus
Stratus
Nimbostratus
Cumulus
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:39 am
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One of the very first memories that I have of ever wanting to be a meteorologist was the challenge by my relatives to be able to master each cloud type and what type of weather would be assoicated with each cloud type. (This was of course when I was 4-7 y/o back in 1985-1989, so don't get too excited) I havn't seen a natural cirrus bank since maybe 1994 or so. I use to photograph towering cumulus clouds in my area during the summer time in the early 90's. Cumulus clouds use to develop along the Cheasepeake Bay Breeze during the early summer and would tower to my east. They don't anymore on a regular basis and I can think of one time in 2007 where I actually saw them. FYI I was an outdoor kid during my summers off from school, playing wiffle ball baseball,and basketball. (Yes I was normal and I had a rocket arm, just never the drive to go anywhere with it).
I spent a tremendous amount of time outside as a kid and I remember what my skies use to look like. I also remember a couple of times in the winters of '88/'89 and '89/'90 where we had thundersnow with pitch black skies. I don't see that anymore and most squalls that do come out of Frederick,MD now are met with chemtrails. Even the surprise snow we had over Central MD the past two days, satellitte imagery showed chemtrail actvity. It's probably why the snow "came out of nowhere" on the radar in about a 40 minute period on Tuesday.
The skies have changed, no question.
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PAK
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:34 pm
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That website, Clouds-on-Line is just set up to validate these man-made clouds as normal. The names and acronyms are humorous, like
Cirrus sPissatus or Ci Spi. That is a bit blatant mocking us. I must've missed that one in school, way back when, guess they didn't "know" as much then.
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| Cirrus clouds are now chemtrails
Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:21 pm
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This photo was taken in 2005, and I personally observed the chemtrail grow into a cirrus cloud. |
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:39 pm
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I never said they didn't exist(natural Cirrus Clouds), just I personally haven't seen them since 1994 without being infected with chemtrails.
Those photos are cool and remind me of some of the weather books that I studied as a kid to understand what different clouds there are in nature. I think we all know that we're being lied to by the US Govt, it's no secret, espically with several prosecutions at the helm along with trillions of dollars in US GDP at risk. Follow the money....
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:32 pm
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...is it possible that the atmospheric conditions that are conducive to cirrus clouds are also conducive to persistent contrails?
...both are supposedly related via the amount of ice in the atmosphere. |
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PAK
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:09 am
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Fool
You obviously believe that there is no aerosol assault going on across the planet against the people which is altering the atmosphere of the planet, mimicking natural clouds but occurring at all times of the year, no matter what humidity is in the air, nor at what level the spraying is taking place. You also assume that we, the average people, are kept well informed as to the high science being used by international scientists who have no allegience to any country, nor to the people within that country. You also assume that science in 1905 was very primitive despite the fact that the photographs in the book you copied were well in advance of the average photographs of that time period. In fact, just as Leonardo DaVinci showed diagrams of flying machines, you assume that there were no flying machines until the Wright Brothers came along, all by their lonesome, and gave us the flying machines, just as Benjamin Franklin gave us electricity after flying a kite with a key, and voila, electricity was born, despite the fact that recorded history refutes that because Priests, who were scientists, in ancient times were already experimenting with electricity and wowing the public with their science, which was just magic the people did not understand. Not to mention the fact that Tesla was already 49 years old at the time of the photographs, and he was way ahead of his time, "supposidly", with calculations of atmospheric alteraltions, with aerosols, that could in fact control the jetstreams and alter formations of clouds. As Joni Mitchel sang, "I really don't know clouds at all" in the 60's, and she was no psychic. but given her songs to sing.
You should get ahold of Trinity-The Atomic Bomb Movie and see how the Elite scientists, with unlimited and unchecked funding, created the atomic bomb, blew up hundreds of them on land, sea and in the upper atmosphere, without the average Joe's consent from any country, spewing tons of radiation into the atmosphere, blowing holes in the ozone (and then blaming on the victims), taking out islands, blowing up old navy ships (paid by the little people) with animals on it, to test radiation poisoning on the animals (so they could use it on humans). Let's get real. The Elite familes and their scientists don't give a crap about any of us, they have been and are using chemicals in the atmosphere, not only to modify the weather but to sedate and poison the public, while they have technology to keep themselves healthy while they kill us off. You are a fool, which your name obviously implies.
Altering clouds is like altering people, you can make a man look like a woman, or visa versa, it doesn't make them a natural man/woman.
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:23 am
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Very well spoken PAK, thank you. |
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:14 am
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The Chemtrails have been constantly referenced by the local weathermen as;
-high thin cirrus clouds
-thin cirrus type
-thin clouds
-filtered sunlight
-strands of cirrus  my fav.
-streaming clouds
-streaming cirrus
-high clouds
-mid level cloud cover
-OR- they completely lie about them being there at all by reporting clear skies when the skies were anything but............. |
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