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Thermit





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Aircraft Experts PostFri Nov 03, 2000 7:34 pm  Reply with quote  

Please help seperate fact from fiction in this case. These are commercial planes, so I doubt there are any sprayers on it. What are these circled structures? What are the slots for? This was claimed to be an Evergreen plane, what are these markings?

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ckznyder (CTTUSA 41116)

You can see the sprayers on the plane. This will be posted on Rense's site but here is a preview of plane.

"This is a picture of one of the planes that has been spraying us here in Portland, Oregon. I have circled the ports they use to spray. They are sending up to 8 planes at a time over us. They are using short bursts as
well as the long line drops. We watched this plane drop on us on Monday of this week. These planes come and go a lot as well as heavy chopper activity at the Portland Air Base. We will continue to monitor activity and put it up as it happens."





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theseeker





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PostFri Nov 03, 2000 9:01 pm  Reply with quote  

No expert here but found another pic:

thingy's for moving the flaps?

courtesy of boeing :



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PostFri Nov 03, 2000 10:34 pm  Reply with quote  

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LTC8K6





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PostSat Nov 04, 2000 2:08 am  Reply with quote  

Still doesn't seem to be Evergreen's colors on the tail.
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LTC8K6





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PostSat Nov 04, 2000 2:15 am  Reply with quote  

Now we know why there is no side view and why he says it's an Evergreen plane.

"The first thing to clear up is that this plane is not a DC9 it is smaller. It is run by Evergreen Air. It is parked away from the main terminal and very near the Air Base at the east end of PDX. These planes are in and out all the time. They refill only late at night and they are using regular tanker trucks as the chemical carrier so as not to draw attention to their activity. I watched this very plane on Monday spray over the Portland Area around 4:00pm. Evergreen Air is a CIA front group much as Air America was during Vietnam. Evergreen Air is a worldwide company that along with World Air gets most of the covert government contracts worldwide. Their is a lot of helicopter activity all day long at the air base. They come out of the north probably from Mc Chord Air Base which is another base for these planes as is Klamath Falls.

Sardar"
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Thermit





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PostSat Nov 04, 2000 4:08 am  Reply with quote  

LTC, where did you get the quote?
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PostSat Nov 04, 2000 4:15 am  Reply with quote  

Sorry about that. It's from CTTUSA. The same guy who posted the photo. MSG#41218
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PostSat Nov 04, 2000 2:35 pm  Reply with quote  

Yup APU exhaust ports and control fairings. It could easily be owned by Evergreen and operated on behalf of a different company. Our aircraft are not entirely owned by our comapny.
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PostMon Nov 27, 2000 4:54 am  Reply with quote  


So maybe it's owned by Evergreen and operated by CIA?...or vice versa?

I did a search of Evergreen Aviation and found this; (maybe you've seen it?)


excerpt from...
http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco/Brfmedia.htm (Evergreen International Aviation & CIA)

WHO IS DOING THE SPRAYING?

A clue to this key question was presented by investigative reporter John Titus. In his updated story, "Who’s Who in the C-130 Scandal," published in the March/April 1997 edition of the Portland Free Press, Titus documents the diversion of an estimated 42 former Navy P-3 Orions and spray-equipped Air Force C-130's from firefighting duties with the U.S. Forest Service to the CIA.

According to Titus, "after leaving the Air Force, Roy Reagan used a network of contacts to successfully broker former military aircraft on the open market."

At least one C-130 obtained by Reagan in 1986 was sold to CIA operatives after former director of the Forest Service aviation program, Fred Fuchs and Reagan diverted spray-equipped C-130s to Evergreen Aviation. This "front company" for CIA aviation was established in 1975 at Marana, Arizona.

Titus also learned that "Top CIA aviation officers, including the legendary George Doole, worked for Evergreen. Prior to working for Evergreen, Doole had managed all of the CIA's proprietary airlines."

C-130s have been used by the CIA for drug smuggling to procure arms for the Contra terrorists and other covert operators. As Titus reveals, "Tail number N69-P operated on contract for the U.S. military's Nuclear Defense Agency and was later busted by the DEA in Miami, Florida, on a cocaine smuggling mission."


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If this is true, then it has been established that the CIA does run secret illegal operations and has used C-130 spray planes (for drug-smuggling).


I also found the official Evergreen Aviation website that states they are involved in "humanitarian" missions(?);

http://www.evergreenaviation.com/

More on recent RICO convictions against Evergreen Aviation & CIA drug trafficking;
http://www.bobkarolrico-informant.com/13.html

note:their website shows they operate aircraft as large as 747's



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PostSat Dec 23, 2000 12:12 am  Reply with quote  

....from the Evergreen International Aviation website.

Humanitarian Efforts


"Humanitarian support and peace-keeping missions have occupied many of the company's aircraft. Evergreen's helicopters manned with highly trained crews have built trans-continental power lines in Sweden, conducted research in the Antarctica, and reforestation programs in vast proportions.
Working for the United Nations World Health Organization on the 20-year onchocerciasis program to eradicate the black fly, the cause of river blindness in thirteen African countries, has been a project of skill, love and dedication."



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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 7:34 am  Reply with quote  


Some proponents of the NWO theory believe that the NWO is using the U.N. and World Trade Organization to achieve their goals
of complete global domination.


If so, the operational links between Evergreen/CIA and the U.N., (even if they don't involve chemtrails) may be a good example of NWO operations in practice today.

Narco-trafficking & weapons smuggling fund black operations regardless of legitimate government funding. Drugs & subsequent "war on drugs" are used to control the population by creating an automatic or built-in 'criminal element' that authorities can use to justify increased paramilitary control and suppression. This would also fit in very well with a NWO scenario.




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PostThu Jan 04, 2001 5:29 pm  Reply with quote  

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PostThu Feb 01, 2001 2:39 am  Reply with quote  

Just noticed the other day while watching VH-1.... U2's recent video, "It's a Beautiful Day".

The band is shown performing on a runway...in one shot we see a very brief glimpse of one of the airliners (several of them landing/taking off within a few feet of the band...special effects), but in one shot, you can see the tail section of one of the airliners with an evergreen tree painted on it's side.

If you get a chance, watch it closely.

Just an observation I had to mention in light of this forums Evergreen Aviation references.

U2 is known to be an activist/political band...what are they trying to say, if anything? or do they even kNWO about it?
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PostMon Feb 19, 2001 1:04 am  Reply with quote  



Just a follow up on the U2 video "Beautiful Day", one of the lyrics goes;

"You've been all over, and it's been all over you."

Maybe a reference to being sprayed?

Here are more of the lyrics;
____________________________________________
You're on the road but you've got no destination
You're in the mud, in the maze of her imagination

You love this town even if it doesn't ring true, you've been all over and it's been all over you

It's a beautiful day
Don't let it get away
It's a beautiful day
Don't let it get away

Touch me, take me to that other place
Teach me, I know I'm not a hopeless case

See the world in green and blue
See China right in front of you
See the canyons broken by cloud
See the tuna fleets clearing the sea out
See the bedouin fires at night
See the oil fields at first light
See the bird with a leaf in her mouth

After the flood all the colours came out
It was a beautiful day
A beautiful day
Don't let it get away

Touch me, take me to that other place
Reach me, I know I'm not a hopeless case

What you don't have you don't need it now
What you don't know you can feel it somehow
What you don't have you don't need it now
You don't need it now, you don't need it now
Beautiful day
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Maybe it's nothing, but the "evergreen" on the tail section is clearly visible for an instant in the last 20 seconds or so of the video.

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