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2 military jets, 1 contrail each, from 1 wingtip?!?

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Nick





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2 military jets, 1 contrail each, from 1 wingtip?!? PostMon Dec 09, 2002 5:46 pm  Reply with quote  

I saw two military jets fly overhead the other day, (West of Seattle) looked like F-14's. They were in formation, rather low, (maybe 5,000 feet up) and they each had one contrail (or chemtrail?) coming off of the starboard wingtip. I'm absolutely positive the white spray stuff was coming off the actual wingtip - NOT from the engines. What's up with that?

Also, has anybody done a study about the number of planes, pilots, and support staff needed to do all the spraying?
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GAS_MASK





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PostMon Dec 09, 2002 6:39 pm  Reply with quote  

As sinister as it may look, you probably saw wingtip vortices, which typically occur at lower alititudes.


I hate to say it, but fighter jets normally have barely enough room for electronics, much less spraying equipment. But a 135 will work quite well for chemtrail generation!

Edit: here's another good example:



You can learn more about wingtip vortice-induced contrails here: http://www.faatest.com/books/FLT/Chapter17/WingtipVortices.htm

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Nick





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PostMon Dec 09, 2002 8:17 pm  Reply with quote  

Yes, you're right it was wingtip vortices I saw, thanks. It struck me as odd because each plane had only one votice on one wing only.

Now back to chemtrails - this stuff that they're spraying - is it dry chemicals mixed with water, or does it get delivered to the bases in tanker trucks?

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ICU812





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PostTue Dec 10, 2002 6:52 am  Reply with quote  


>>>Now back to chemtrails - this stuff that they're spraying - is it dry chemicals mixed with water, or does it get delivered to the bases in tanker trucks?<<<


wow, great question!! I think a lot of people would like to know the answer to that. If you don't get an answer, lets look at the possibilities.

Welsbach patent covers one possibility:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=3&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=ft95&S1=5003186&OS=5003186&RS=5003186

"The particles may be seeded by dispersal from seeding aircraft; one exemplary technique may be via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work regarding the metallic particles. Once the tiny particles have been dispersed into the atmosphere, the particles may remain in suspension for up to one year."

"via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work"?

what prior work?

Maybe this?
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F4755673

or this

US3899144: Powder contrail generation
http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US03899144_

Maybe these guys can answer that.
http://www.aerounion.com/a2.htm_ http://www.conair.ca/cgi/new_core.pl?action=conair_main&page_id=0001


" His visionary leadership in pioneering the development of aerial application technology has made Conair Aviation Ltd. the world?s largest operator of aircraft used for special aerial delivery systems constituting a major contribution to Canada?s aviation industry."

As the visionary founder of CONAIR Aviation Ltd., Les Kerr has had a significant influence on aerial delivery systems worldwide. Kerr helped to make CONAIR one of the world's largest operators of special purpose aircraft used for fire detection and suppression, oil slick dispersal and aerial application of fertilizers and insecticides. Over 50 CONAIR designed delivery systems are in operation around the world.

Your chemtrail specialists

I think it was Mr. Minnis that used "different types of fuels" in the erz,DC8,B757 or T39 to generate contrails in the SUCCESS studies, maybe he knows!


---nice shots GASMASK---
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GAS_MASK





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PostThu Dec 12, 2002 4:23 am  Reply with quote  

Thanks!
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