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stameyjd
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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L.A. UPDATE! 22-10-03 RAIN-A-COMIN!
 Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:09 am
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L.A. is going to get long needed rain. I am not sophisticated to see above the clouds but so far we have been spray free for over a week.
we were really hit hard two weks ago, first they sprayed a huge X east probably over riverside and then they overlaid it four times, looking like a spked wheel.
in my previous posts i have detailed the cough that the spraying apparently caused. today we overcast and cool, and the coughs are diminishing!
FOLLOW THE X'S THE SPRAYING WILL SOON FOLLOW! |
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PHXPilot
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:25 am
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first they sprayed a huge X east probably over riverside and then they overlaid it four times, looking like a spked wheel.
At Riverside Municipal Airport, there is a VOR (Very High Frequency Omni-Directional Range). The name of ths VOR? Obviously, Riverside VOR. Airliners and other jets with flight plans crossing near Riverside CA will most likely cross over this VOR. All aircraft wih this VOR on their flight plan will cross in exactly the same place in the sky as they fly over it one by one.
And your observation that when they "lay an X" chemtrais are sure to follow is pretty obvious. If the 2 aircraft that created the X when they crossed over the VOR were in conditions good for contrails, why shouldnt many of the other aircraft flying near there also create contrails? Most likely, If you see one contrail, you will see quite a few more. |
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the professor
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:23 am
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still beating that dead horse if conditions
are right, I havn't had a good laugh in a
while. |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:32 am
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Yeah, we wouldnt want to keep believing in the myth that the right conditions need to present themselves to make contrails. That would just be stupid. |
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ScaredForTheFuture
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 6:34 am
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I took "right conditions" into account. I really did. But I have seen chemtrails on days that are sticky hot, foggy cool, overcast, early in the morning, mid afternoon, late in the evening.etc. |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:26 pm
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But I have seen chemtrails on days that are sticky hot, foggy cool, overcast, early in the morning, mid afternoon, late in the evening.etc.
Well, you saw contrails in all those conditions because at 30K+ feet the dew point, humidity, and temperature were still within contrail forming range.
Remember, the ground conditions give very very little indication to the conditions 6 miles up. |
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Jeanie
Joined: 18 Nov 2001
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 12:43 am
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Northwest Connecticut, Tuesday the llth :::
The day began pristine, with fresh snowfall, sparkling, with blue skies and brilliant sunshine. I was out and driving through several towns and watched "our boys" from the begining work their magic in the sky. It began in the area of the sun. Saw where switches went on and off until the sky was a blasted mess eventually extending to all directions. I would like to know exactly WHO is orchestrating this ruination of our atmosphere. I have my suspicions and believe I know why. The big question is who's going to do something about it? Whose going to put these #$#%&#@*'s in prison where they belong? |
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ScaredForTheFuture
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Location: Orange County, CA,USA |
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 12:59 am
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quote:
Well, you saw contrails in all those conditions because at 30K+ feet the dew point, humidity, and temperature were still within contrail forming range.[/B]
For the umteenth time, how come we never saw these same things before the 90's then?? And explain to me why these "innocent contrails from flight routes" always go exactly side by side.. if there are 8 contrails, they are in a row. Wouldn't they be less organized and more or less on top of each other instead of conviently spread out so that the trails expand and cover the whole area?
You know what, you're pissing me off now. I'm preaching to somebody who is either hired to debunk, or is just plain dumb or blind. I'm through arguing with you. |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:58 am
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For the umteenth time, how come we never saw these same things before the 90's then??
If you'd go look through national geographic magazines or anything similair with shots of the outdoors from the 1980s or 70s, every once in a while you will come across a photo that shows the same contrails and stuff we see today. They DID exist back then. |
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the professor
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:39 am
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I've seen some pictures even before that but very hard to come by, somethings
changed because they're not like these
days. |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:46 am
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Well, you have to remember the lack of air traffic in and around the 70s. Air traffic has skyrocketed since the 80s which, I would assume, would account for the increase in contrails. |
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the professor
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:48 am
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Thus making it a perfect background for
nanobiochem testing. I mean who would think
otherwise? those are just contrails. |
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hitech_46253
Joined: 16 May 2001
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:11 pm
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Sigh! Looks like PHX pilot is another debunkster. So, here we go again!
Careful observation will reveal planes flying at the SAME altitude in the SAME conditions and will NOT have visible CHEMTRAILS while others will.
This is because it is NOT CONdensatin you're seeing! It is polymer filament fibers that can EASILY be seen at night in calm winds with a high intensity spotlight. CONdensation does NOT hang about in the air for hours and spread out. At least not BEFORE late 1998 before the CHEMTRAIL spraying began in earnest.
Again, this does NOT require any kind of EXPERT but casual observation. Don't get CONNED by the CONdensation LIE! |
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Feelin Kocky
Joined: 07 Jan 2003
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:33 pm
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>>Careful observation will reveal planes flying at the SAME altitude in the SAME conditions and will NOT have visible CHEMTRAILS while others will.<<
What equipment do you use to make these "careful" observations? Can you tell, with your eyes, a 2,000ft difference between two planes that are over 5 miles away?
F.K. |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA |
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Wed Feb 12, 2003 11:50 pm
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Careful observation will reveal planes flying at the SAME altitude in the SAME conditions and will NOT have visible CHEMTRAILS while others will.
You are probably one of the people who keep sending in photos of aircraft making contrails to the newspaper and complain "They are flying too close together. They will collide unless we do somthing. I demand safer skies!!!"
Please explain how you know these aircraft are at the same flight level. Unless you think that all aircraft fly at the same altitude all the time. In any case I suggest you do some research into avation. Specifically navigation and ATC.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PHXPilot on 02-12-2003] |
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