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Thermit
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Sky Chromosomes
 Sun Nov 19, 2000 4:11 am
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What's the deal with this?
Picture by Deborah 11/2/00 Boston
Update:
Current research and observations have indicated that the so-called Sky Chromosome feature displayed in some trails is a feature of a normal contrail, sometimes present, during it's latter disapation phase. This phenomenon has been recently observed to occur in conjunction with a commercial flight which was identified on Flight Explorer. The atmospheric conditions at the time provided for a relatively lengthy contrail persistence in the range of 1 to 2 minutes. Two minutes is the upper-bound for persistence which has been observed with identifiable planes. So, in summary, the picture shown at the beginning of this thread, while interesting, is not considered to be anomalous or related to Chemtrails by this researcher. The highly persistent trails of 30 minutes to several hours, which are not identifiable via Flight Explorer, remain the reason for continuation of current research.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Thermit on 01-08-2001] |
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elvis lives
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 5:57 am
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Thermit......That's a broken contrail. I have seen many of those in the short time I have been paying attention to the skies.
Stop and think about this. If there was a planned domestic aerial spray program in progress...WHY would they spray the skies on a beautiful, clear, sunny DAY...in front of God and everyone.....when they could spray at night in complete secrecy?
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theseeker
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 9:39 am
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I would like to know the circumstances preceeding this photo....
Thermit you should contact deborah and have her explain this further....
I believe I know what kind of aircraft made this.....
Finally someone came up with something more than persistent artificial cloud photo's.
Hardly 'bio-logical' Thermit.....but interesting....
Too bad anyone with with experience on this type of thing probably won't see this....
I swear there's an echo in here now......
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nodebbunker
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 2:52 pm
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Elvis, if you look closer at the photo, you will see that the sky behind these trails is not toally blue and there is indication of white haze or older contrails that have dispersed.
I have seen broken contrails but nothing like that. With little that I know, my guess would be the plane was having some kind of mechanical failure because the placement of the contrails, as weird as they are, is uniform in the path or there was something already in the air as the plane's exhaust was emitted.
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Deborah
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 5:46 pm
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Go ahead, Seeker, Elvis. Give me a dissertation on how much it would turn you on to see the above-posted phenomena over YOUR area on a regular basis. Since you find it all so "fascinating." |
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theseeker
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 7:37 pm
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I'll tell you what deborah, until you drop the sarcasm, you never going to learn a thing !
I see these quite frequently, and please don't hand me that "it only happens in my area" sh*t...
I can see that no one that is left here is serious about getting to the bottom of this unusual trail type ,I sent chickie deb a picture like the one above 6 months ago...slow man.....(woman)...
Your attitude deborah is indicative of a 'know it all'...so I won't share any info with you...since you think you already have a cart blanc on it....
good day...
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goldrush
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 8:01 pm
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I have seen these types of dissipating contrails before. Most recently on Oct.29 while shopping in Sutter Creek around 3 o'clock. I saw over a period of time different jets creating a semi-dissipating contrails approximately 2-3miles long which dissipated from the end furthest away from the plane, exactly in this same manner. Too bad, that the photographer neglected to show the entire contrail with the jet included. These contrails dissipated entirely over a period of 5 to 10 minutes. The weather that afternoon was clear, cool and stable, showing no change for the day to come. |
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Deborah
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 8:27 pm
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It isn't "sarcasm" - it's anger. There's a difference.
The truth is, I don't care anymore what what you or anyone else comes up with to "explain" the stuff I've been seeing and photographing since November 1999. I don't care what you or anyone else thinks of me, either. You don't know me and clearly don't care one way or another what I express here. The atmosphere could implode on us all tomorrow and you'd probably just write it off to some remotely "similar" thing you've seen [ho hum] already. Been there/Done that - that's your bottom line.
If I had a TENTH of your "knowledge" I guess I could be as "cool" as you are, huh?
Be that as it may, and as it turns out, I'm not as stupid as you think I am, Seeker. I have pretty much concluded by now that there will be no "answers" forthcoming to questions being presented by an increasing number of people observing and documenting the mess in our skies. Those, like yourself, who are not bothered by what you see, are fortunate, indeed. The rest of us will just have to make the necessary adjustments and get it through our heads that there is nothing we can do about it.
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAZXRBN9FC.html
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/codec/codeci/webmaster/CommSpaceTrans/Index.html
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Deborah
Joined: 30 Jul 2000
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Sun Nov 19, 2000 8:40 pm
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>>Too bad, that the photographer neglected to show the entire contrail with the jet included.<<
I didn't "neglect" ANYTHING. I have one lens, a 50mm, with which to work. And as you can clearly see, a visual field which often must accommodate the reality of the typical urban landscape. Your "assumptions" are spurious, as usual. |
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elvis lives
Joined: 30 Sep 2000
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Mon Nov 20, 2000 3:32 am
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Deborah....
On October 9th I made a post in the carnicom forum, titled ‘One final note...’, in which you responded.....
http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=3320.topic
“Elvis...
Will pass on the slide show [have seen it] but thank you for the very thoughtful summary of your viewpoint. I happen to agree with most of it [you still "left out" the ozone issue, however - why?]”
If you agreed with most of my viewpoints then.....why are you still struggling with heavy contrail activity in and around Boston? It seems you have slipped out of remission.
Boston will only get worse before it gets better. Jet traffic is scheduled to increase 180% over then next 10 years. If you have the flexibility, I would suggest relocating to an area away from commercial and/or military air traffic corridors. As they say, out of sight....out of mind.
Deborah, you are too smart to get caught up in this ‘chemtrail’ hoax. I see you as one of the leading researchers in the fight to reduce and regulate global air pollution.
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Mon Nov 20, 2000 3:45 am
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>If I had a TENTH of your "knowledge" I guess I could be as "cool" as you are, huh?<
You could at least try.....
>Those, like yourself, who are not bothered by what you see, are fortunate, indeed. <
I refer to your statement, you don't know me, you don't know what really bothers me, well, closed minded angry people bother me...
>The rest of us will just have to make the necessary adjustments and get it through our heads that there is nothing we can do about it.<
Sounds like you all are quitter's ?
And yes, there's not much you can do about air travel....
Providing you don't quit...keep looking at those thin little trails...you never know what you might find.....
Communication closed
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