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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:51 am
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The charts I used were founds here ~
http://adds.aviationweather.gov/projects/adds/flight_path/
And, in fact, I checked readings at 10,000, 14,000, 20,000, 24,000, 30,000, 34,000, 40,000, and 44,000 feet. |
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Feelin Kocky
Joined: 07 Jan 2003
Posts: 537
Location: Underground Weather Control Bunker |
Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:24 am
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Just remember, ADDS incorperates RUC model data which has a terrible dry bias. It also uses the ETA models which, in my experience has a dry bias at upper levels.
The best way to check conditions is by looking at upper air plots from Rawinsonde observations.
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hitech_46253
Joined: 16 May 2001
Posts: 499
Location: Indianapolis, IN U.S. |
Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:44 pm
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I myself have noted a direct correlation between approaching weather fronts and the amoung of CHEMTRAILING done ahead of them. I live in SW Indiana. If we have a large front typically inbound from the West NW, we see heavy spraying anywhere up to a day BEFORE the storm arrives depending upon wind speed. Again you can SEE the effect the polymer filaments have on the thunderheads. They literally DISSOLVE! Last night we saw some thunderheads dissolved here in IN but they were selectively targeted rather than the whole sky layered up. You can see the bottom of the thunderheads looking like white hair falling down as they are modified. |
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NW41Heavy

Joined: 28 Mar 2003
Posts: 88
Location: Tallahassee, FL |
Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:31 pm
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hitech- interesting you mention that- which helps prove my point even further.
Before fronts pass through, you will always have more moisture and cirrus clouds up at altitude. Upper level cirrus is a tale tale sign of an approaching front. Contrails are very prone to occur in these conditions- and will last much longer. A little food for thought- maybe the government isn't after you?? Maybe these things really are innocent aircraft travelling along our federal airway system? |
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Billy_D

Joined: 14 Nov 2002
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Location: Hayward, CA, USA |
Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:31 pm
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I'd have to agree with catnip, i'm here on the west coast and have definately seen an increase since te iraq conflict started |
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NW41Heavy

Joined: 28 Mar 2003
Posts: 88
Location: Tallahassee, FL |
Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:32 pm
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which brings me to my next point.. I SUCK AT TYPING!!!! Sorry about the typos, fellas.
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Don't fake the funk on the nasty dunk. |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
Posts: 2501
Location: right here |
Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:55 pm
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>>Sorry about the typos, fellas.<<
No problemo girlfriend!  |
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Broward

Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 8
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA |
Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:58 pm
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Nope, quite heavy even with clear skies in the Keys and South FLorida.
Here:
Look for the haze, not the 'natural' popcorn clouds.
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/EVENTS/EG21.GIF
Weather modification it is, but at what expense?
Human, environmental?
PS, where's the 'log out' option on this thing?
Hmmm.
Think globally act locally.
Put flyers up at parks questioning the trails!
Gorilla glue or ductape works fine especially on metal stop signs.
How ya like me now?
Dodging SARS,
peace!
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chemwatcher
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Posts: 87
Location: phoenix,az,usa |
Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:07 am
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finaly people to talk to, yes,yes,yes,they have it's not just your area or your imagination. here in phoenix we've had the longest brake I can remember scence they started spraying.BUT unfortunatley they have started up again and are hosing us good, complete cloud cover all day yesterday and into the night.thankfully mother nature didn't co-operate and blew it out by mid day today.no telling what they do as we sleep! have you all sceen the petition for chemtrail disclosure it's a great piece of evidence for the purpose of applying pressure to our "eleced officals"
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chemwatcher
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Posts: 87
Location: phoenix,az,usa |
Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:21 am
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quote: Originally posted by Jeanie:
Nobody but you debunkers seem to know what they are talking about.
Take a hike!!!
again a pilot that so sure there's no spraying going on are these guy's in a gray-matter challenged club or what,they always say somthing stupid like this guy come to phoenix and watch planes go buy so low and slow you can almost see the pilots kinda blows you hight and speed theories |
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chemwatcher
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Posts: 87
Location: phoenix,az,usa |
Tue Apr 08, 2003 9:39 am
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quote: Originally posted by Billy_D:
I'd have to agree with catnip, i'm here on the west coast and have definately seen an increase since te iraq conflict started
no kidding pal,yeah before a front there is more moisture in the air and is prime for contrails but do those momentarily formed ice crystals form below 15,000 feet as many trails are sprayed at that elevation in phoenix and those same little crystals fall like rain thousands of feet father and stay stable , in solid form huh? for hours and hours huh? in places like this huh? oh really seems like all you pilots need to get out of your planes more and look around.IT'S HARD TO SEE WHAT YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT!!!!! |
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NW41Heavy

Joined: 28 Mar 2003
Posts: 88
Location: Tallahassee, FL |
Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:25 pm
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Try punctuation next time, chemwatcher- Then I'll try to respond to your jumble of misspelled words and fragments. |
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