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Ellyn
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I think I've found Saddam Hussein's Chemical Stash
 Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:39 pm
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I think I've found Saddam Hussein's chemical stash! They're in the skies over the Inland Northwest today. There are chemtrails on top of chemtrails. Is this biochemical warfare against the American people and the land upon which we reside?
All I had to do this morning was look up to see five spray planes spewing out the miles long trails. Two were flying parallel to each other, while one other was flying toward the two. There are the stringy, ribbon-like trails, and also the thick trails which expand out into the puffy or cottonball-like clouds. As I drove along, I observed more and more spray planes spewing out their miles long chemical trails. It is about 12:45 in the afternoon, and the spray planes have been at it all morning long; only a hint of blue sky is left.
What our day would have been like without these trails: gorgeous billowy white and gray clouds against a deep blue sky. Oh, and I would not be smelling and tasting chemicals in the air I breathe.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Ellyn on 04-07-2003] |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA |
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Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:46 pm
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They're in the skies over the Inland Northwest today.
Airplanes in the NW??? Incredible! *faints*
Is this biochemical warfare against the American people and the land upon which we reside?
No
All I had to do this morning was look up to see five spray planes spewing out the miles long trails.
And thinking that these are 5 airliners on their way to their destination is wrong....how?
Two were flying parallel to each other, while one other was flying toward the two.
This is weird...why? I drove parallel to the guy in the car next to me today. I also saw a guy driving the opposite direction. WEIRD!!
There are the stringy, ribbon-like trails, and also the thick trails which expand out into the puffy or cottonball-like clouds.
Oh yes! Thats exactly how chemicals act when you pour them out of a plane at 30 thousand feet and 500kts! Oh, wait. No its not.
...gorgeous billowy white and gray clouds against a deep blue sky.
Cant you see?!?!? Those are chemicals too!!! I saw clouds today in one part of the sky, and none in the other, so they must be part of a government plot!! And I didnt see them yesterday, but I did today, and they were making the shape of bunnies! CONSPIRACY!
Oh, and I would not be smelling and tasting chemicals in the air I breathe.
Oh no, that couldnt be from the thousands of pollutant sources surrounding your home. It couldnt be from diesel trucks, oil in your driveway, or the chemicals in bottles all over your house, could it? No, it has to be from the..CONTRAILS!!!
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Fibromaniq
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 1:21 am
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OH YES, THERE WE GO AGAIN, pilot.
As I wil continue to remind everyone, esp. you Pilot, there are definately normal contrails. Thats how they get away with it, how they conceal it, and why we must make an effort to separte the chemtrails from the contrails.
Ellyn - Chemtrails: there is sometimes a sweet chemical smell to their payloads; some of them have unique hues;
Also, try to figure what commercial traffic is in the skies, and then see if the contrails match - if they are not part of the commercial airplane traffic, take a closer look and make notes.
Thanks Elyn, for making this post. Please do not be dissuaded by our local "disturance" We keep him around to balance the thoughtfull postings, with the merely displeased-at-the-whole-idea posts common to PHX Pilot.
Why he does so much work for something he does not agree with as having any value speaks volumes about what his motives are. An official debunker has no reason to be posting here unless its to get us to quit making these accusations against our government/etc. Why is that so important to PHX? - one answer may be that he is afraid of what may turn out to be the truth, so he debunks. He, like most people, could not tolerate the reality of chemtrails, and what chemtrail's presence says about how our governments are not interested in our well being, and what their plans for OUR future are.
But the rest of us are willing to look the beast in the eye, reveal the crimes against us, and make a better world. |
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everetteyes
Joined: 15 May 2002
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:35 am
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I'am glad to see some others have figured out that sad little boy.He needs a very long nap. |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA |
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:57 am
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I spend just as much time here as I do at badastronomy.com talking about how silly the "planet X" idea is.
Im not saying that what you guys see is wrong. It is quite right. But then you make the assumptions. That is where you lose it.
You see two trails in the sky = true
This proves chemtrails = false
You smell chemicals = true
They must be from contrails = false
You see a racetrack contrail pattern = true
This must be an intentional spray pattern = false
Contrails last for many hours = true
This proves they arent normal = false
You guys HAVE to learn that there are humongous flaws in your little theory. You refuse to acknowledge them.
1. Aircraft could not hold enough chemicals to create these chemtrails
2 Even if they could, this is not what it would look like. I know everytime I pour fuel out of my plane, it creates clouds. 
3. There are not enough aircraft available to carry out these sprayings all over the country.
But you guys wont care if there are problems, the government is BAD goshdarnit. And that means they MUST be spraying. |
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everetteyes
Joined: 15 May 2002
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Location: Everett WA |
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:16 am
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Oh how wrong you are fakepilot.Those {Special}tanks on the KC-10 can hold more then 356,000 pounds.
Wake up folks phx pilot tells nothing but lies and half truths. |
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chemwatcher
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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Location: phoenix,az,usa |
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:20 am
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im not sure where to start except to say its seems like most people who dont believe about the covert op of chem trails are suffering from complete ignorance!!!!!dont these people educate themselves about what is or isnt posible. i live in phoenix ,where it is currently mid to upper eighties,where contrails cant suspend for longer than a few seconds before returning to a gas from a solid, yet for the last two days weve been sprayed like bugs. starting in the morning ,streaks,x`s narrow,wide creating a complete cirus cloud layer!!!!!! in arizona!!!!, im supposed to believe these are ice crystles lasting all day!!!!! not to mention,many of the plains observed were below 15000 feet contrails cant form that low ,not in az anyway.so i guess we will just keep trying to share the truth until they believe, many times the truth is met with much opposition until they see the light!dq.
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everetteyes
Joined: 15 May 2002
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:31 am
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Oh my god...Talk about making phx pilot look like a total idiot!That was great. |
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PHXPilot
Joined: 05 Jan 2003
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Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA |
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:34 am
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Those {Special}tanks on the KC-10 can hold more then 356,000 pounds.
Do you have any clue how long that would last if you released it at the rate needed to create these contrails?!?!?!?
You are hopeless. |
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chemwatcher
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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Location: phoenix,az,usa |
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:37 am
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phxpilot where do you live again, phx,oh really , thats funny i live there, are we supposed to believe that we have ice crystles hanging in our air all day!!!!!!!!in phx az huh? hot air temp,low humidity,and you pilots must have rear view mirrors on your plains to see your own trails cause your not the first pilot to self proclaim yourself expert on contrails. why dont you try checking on air traffic youll find there is no plains posting flight paterns where the trails are, no record of the planes spraying chems, really no record huh! if these are regular flights why dosnt any claim to have flown these flights? as far as the fule thing again im supposed to believe they are dumping fule right over the top of our cities, really, i do believe its not normal to dump directly over cities insted of over less inhabited areas.anyway today it was mid eighties in phx and we were covered in "cons" all day,oh really,all day,in phx, contrails,oh yeah little ice crystles getting larger and larger spreding through the day untill it formed a cirrus cloud layer, same thing yesterday only worse,but amazingly the prior week and one half with more humidity and cooler temp,good conditions for contrails and nothing but the real thing,long,short,narrow,wide some fast dissipating, some slow but ALL DISSIPATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!no trails, no X`s,no circles,no fake clouds, just beautiful puffy clouds,no funny weblike,streaky, look like they are raining down particals with rainbow like auras clouds. in closing im 46 years old and worked as a framer,contractor and can tell anyone who cares to listen "I HAVE NEVER SCENE THESE FUNNY TRAILS FROM PLAINS OR THESE WEIRD STRINGY WEB-LIKE CLOUDS" until about five years ago [being a carpenter i watched the sky always praying for rain you know]also check with the CDC.AND YOUL FIND THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE FOR DEATH IS NOW LOWER RESPITORY DISEASE.mabey people like phxpilot wont believe untill he or someone he loves gets sick and or dies from the chems as i have.i pray for us all as things wind tighter in this world. the truth will set us free! but we must work for it.dq
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chemwatcher
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 8:22 am
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as I live and breath, I was just saying to my friend,we had not been sprayed much scence the war started [which was about two weeks no spray longest break we've had scence I've been watching], then the last two day's it's been back to insect status for us in phoenix and we thought and said those exact words to ourselves.keep the faith we'll get our beautiful skys back! |
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chemwatcher
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 8:46 am
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quote:
Originally posted by everetteyes:
I'am glad to see some others have figured out that sad little boy.He needs a very long nap.
AMEN TO YOU ALL,i'm new here it's so nice to read your comments and thoughts , people are so afraid of the posibility that our"government" could "do such a thing" it's hard to see what you refuse to accept! thank's and keep up the good work spreding the word |
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Ellyn
Joined: 16 Jul 2000
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:37 pm
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The Inland Northwest is receiving more massive spraying today. When I went out to get my newspaper early this morning, I said to my neighbor, "I you want to see the beautiful blue sky, you had better look at it now." It is now about 10:45 a.m., and the spraying continues unabated. |
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NW41Heavy
Joined: 28 Mar 2003
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Location: Tallahassee, FL |
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:39 pm
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everetteyes wrote: "Oh how wrong you are fakepilot.Those {Special}tanks on the KC-10 can hold more then 356,000 pounds.
Wake up folks phx pilot tells nothing but lies and half truths."
Ok.. you're a moron and know nothing about this. Have you ever executed a fuel dump in a heavy jet? No??? So it's time for you to shut it and listen to someone who knows what they are talking about. A standard fuel dump from an airliner like the DC-10 drops 6000 pounds per minute, and that doesnt even create a lasting cloud, just a white mist that dissapates quite quickly. For everetteyes, this small rate of 6000 a minute would extinguish his 356,000 pounds in an hour. If any of you have seen a fuel dump pipe, it is only about an inch in diameter. Quite amazing actually.
Double this rate to 12,000 a minute and it only lasts thirty minutes.
One more thing...max weight on a KC-10 is around 600,000 pounds. Empty weight is right around 300K. 365,000 pounds of chemicals (not including fuel) would already put it wayyyyyy over maximum allowable weight. So add in the necessary fuel (capacity in normal fuel tanks is around 200,000 pounds- burns about 20,000 an hour), plus flight crew and airplane buckles under its own weight.
Did PHX get slammed??? I think not- because you just got your ass handed to you.
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hitech_46253
Joined: 16 May 2001
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Location: Indianapolis, IN U.S. |
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:49 pm
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Somebody's executed a dump allright. Between your ears!
Ignore all the phony debunkie wannabe 'pilots' you seekers of TRUTH. The government has already ADMITTED to spraying biologicals and it's written into LAW. This SARS is just a precursor to a far more LETHAL variety to DEPOPULATE large areas.
You can play games debunkies, but eventually these globalist PIGS may actually kill somebody you care about. IF you care about anything besides YOURSELVES that is!
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