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PHXPilot





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:17 am  Reply with quote  

That would be a good idea.
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PHXPilot





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:19 am  Reply with quote  

I have always understood chemtrails as (loosely) the spraying of foreign chemicals from an aircraft in flight for purposes other than keeping the flight safely in the air.

Hows that?
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Lulu





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:19 am  Reply with quote  

Care to take a crack at it Pilot?

I find this statement interesting ~

>>"The Air Force does not have a system for reporting routine or emergency fuel jettisoning."<<
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/PHA/kelly/kel_p2b.html
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000030.html
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PHXPilot





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:27 am  Reply with quote  

Just so I can get an idea what I am trying to figure out, what are you trying to suggest Lulu? That they are purposefully dumping fuel on people to make them sick?
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Lulu





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:28 am  Reply with quote  

>>I would consider it evidence of pilots not following regs when dumping fuel in an emergency.<<

What are the regs?

>>That they are purposefully dumping fuel on people to make them sick?<<

Not suggesting this at all Pilot.
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PHXPilot





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:38 am  Reply with quote  

Well, the usual procedure for dumping fuel is to only vent fuel when over "sparsely populated areas". They are told to do this because of people complaining when their patio furniture has a light coating of jet fuel on it. But be reminded, in EXTREME emergencies, pilots are authorized to dump fuel wherever they need to to get the aircraft back to an airport safely. Its better to have Old Lady Dorris' plants get a dose of Jet-A than to have her house slammed into by an F/A-18.

Well, if your not suggesting that they are doing it on purpose to harm us, if you dont mind me asking, what is your point here?
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Lulu





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:42 am  Reply with quote  

The point here is that you stated perhaps pilots not following regs...which kind of contradicts this statement..."The Air Force does not have a system for reporting routine or emergency fuel jettisoning" so was curious the regs.

Nice crack at the definition!
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PHXPilot





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:44 am  Reply with quote  

Well, they might not have a requirement to report fuel dumps, but they do have some rules for when they do happen.
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Lulu





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 5:53 am  Reply with quote  

Ahhh I see. It will be interesting to read the evidence posted in this thread. Well nite Pilot, 5 am comes much too early and the sandman is calling me...
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theseeker





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 9:07 am  Reply with quote  

Sounds like you've been hanging out with Jay Reynolds T/S. Two debunkers, outstanding in a field of shallots

ahhhh...city girl pickin' on the farmers...eh ???

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chemtrails=Hoax.......Chemtrails=hoax.......Chemtrails=Hoax

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hitech_46253





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 2:03 pm  Reply with quote  

Blah! blah BLAH! The 'white noise generators' are at it in every thread ain't they? PHX debunkie who won't believe PROOF even if he sees it, wants more proof he won't believe. He doesn't want to hear about no gubment conspiracies even while this country is being turned into NAZI Germany Part II. He's the type that THINKS nothing is real unless the guvment or media SAYS SO.... Hmmm, let's go back to Kenneth Starr who SUPPOSEDLY was to look into Klinton wrongdoings. Even though he was COMPROMISED with his own dealings with China and the whole thing was more 'smoke and mirrors.' Any guvment investigation is just another term for WHITEWASH and diversion. We've already had patents, congressmen, weather forecasters, AND THE GUBMENT ITSELF talk about chemtrails and their various purposes.

Yet, the 'white noise generators' here want to keep the issue muddled so you do NOTHING! Check it out FOR YOURSELVES, then tell others. CEASE following the brainless PROPAGANDA to call everything 'conspiracy theory.' CONSPIRACIES ARE REAL AND PLENTIFUL in this administration and past ones. That's because the CONTROL is from ABOVE the orifice of president. That's why we've got these CHEMTRAIL spray programs in SEVERAL countries.

No Seeker (?? what are you seeking anyway? Certainly NOT the truth.) They're not HIDING anything, you just refuse to discuss what they've ADMITTED to!

That's OK though. As Iraq is attacked, the globalists WILL set off LARGE SCALE terrorism HERE killing MILLIONS this time. Maybe YOU or your friends or family will be included in this. Then you'll get to try to tell your creator WHY you've LIED here. Then you'll get the eternal rewards you've so richly EARNED!

Bon Appetit FOOLS!
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PHXPilot





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 3:01 pm  Reply with quote  

PHX debunkie who won't believe PROOF even if he sees it, wants more proof he won't believe.

That is where you are wrong. I will accept any actual evidence you come forward with. But you havent shown me any. Notice that you came on this thread titled "chemtrail evidences" and proceeded to talk about "Kenneth Starr who SUPPOSEDLY was to look into Klinton wrongdoings. Even though he was COMPROMISED with his own dealings with China and the whole thing was more smoke and mirrors.'"

Lets see how well you follow instruction:

1) Read Thread Title
2) Understand Thread Title
3) Act on Thread Title
4) Post Chemtrail Evidence
5) Do not talk about Kenneth Starr

You guys seem to think that if you dont fall for every conspiracy thoery that comes down the pipe, you support the government and are an ignorant fool. You need to sort out the silly thoeries with the ones that are plausible. I am aware that there are a few real conspiracies. This, from the lack of evidence, seems to not be one of them.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by PHXPilot on 03-07-2003]
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skyhawk





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 3:37 pm  Reply with quote  

PHX-I am astounded at your level of denial. When you look up and see criss cross spray patterns, parallel patterns, or any other spray patterns for that matter,far outside normal TACAN and VOR jetways, lingering and then spreading across the sky, you do not consider this evidence? You don't believe what you can see with your own eyes? How much more evidence do you need? If the sky was raining sledge hammers, you'd deny it until one finally hit you on the head. Of course by then it would be too late.

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The Hawk is watching.
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CaptWalker





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 4:50 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by skyhawk:
PHX-I am astounded at your level of denial. When you look up and see criss cross spray patterns, parallel patterns, or any other spray patterns for that matter,far outside normal TACAN and VOR jetways, lingering and then spreading across the sky, you do not consider this evidence?


PHX is not the only one who doesn't consider interesting looking contrail formation "evidence" of CT's. How do you suggest that planes get from point A to point B and from point C to point D without flying in parallel lines, criss-crossing lines, converging lines... or any other "pattern"?? Is there another dimension you would like to have planes fly in so they don't have any linear properties?

Do you think that there is one jetway across your entire field of vision? No wonder airfares costs so much, they've got to be burning a lot of fuel to get from NY to Miami with only an east-west jetway in which to fly!

Methinks this is the VOR that you're talking about... http://www.vor.net/
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hitech_46253





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PostFri Mar 07, 2003 8:32 pm  Reply with quote  

EVIDENCE.

G O V E R N M E N T H A S A D M I T T E D S P R A Y I N G F O R S E V E R A L D I F F E R E N T P R O G R A M S.

That's EVIDENCE PHX debunkie and others simply do NOT want to discuss.

They're DOING IT. They said so! Thousands have seen the difference and effects since late 1998.

Find out for YOURSELVES people. I'm speaking PAST the 'noise generators' here.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/2196

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