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DvdGStwrt
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CT Insanity ? - How knowing CTs affects you
 Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:37 am
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The knowledge of CT's has been one which I have known for a year or so.
Indeed, look at my User name and date of joining (I know I do not post much at all)
Thing is that was the early time of my discovering and learning about CT's and much more too.
I freely admit that this knowledge sits on the back of my brain, always simmering, just waiting for some little thing to bring it to the forefront where I puzzle over it more.
Now I must wonder, is this a kind of stress? Does it effect us in ways we may not fully understand?
My friend, a person who knows CT well, appears to be 'losing' it. In the past year I have met him several times, each time he is a little more haggard, a little more disarrayed.
Some would say that Knowledge is what was the real cause for the Fall of Adam and Eve.
Any thoughts on this?
Cheers
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Jeanie
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Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:41 pm
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Hey David; Knowledge had nothing at all to do with Adam and Eve being expelled from the Garden of Eden and being given the sentence of death. It had every thing to do with OBEDIENCE to their Creator.
Genesis 2:9 says Adam was given access to every desireable thing that would contribute to his happiness and well being. A restriction was put on the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and bad.
God said;"From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positvely die." Genesis 2:16,17 This command given to Adam from God, before Eve appeared.
An angel, given oversight of the garden began to usurp the worship rightfully belonging to God and slandered his name, contradicted him saying,(to Eve) "you positively will not die" that is why Satan is called the father of the lie. He insinuated God was withholding something beneficial to Adam.
Adam was not decieved but Eve was. Instead of correcting her, he joined in the act of disobedience to the Creator and ate the fruit of the forbidden tree. That is why generations to follow inherited sin and death and that is why God gave is perfect son Jesus as a ransom sacrifice to buy back our right to life.
Very important that you read ROMANS 5:12 Paul writes "that is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men bcause they had all sinned; verse 18, "as through one trespass the result to men of all sorts was condemnation, likewise also through one act of justification the result to men of all sorts is declaring of righteous for life." Read Genesis 2 3 and 5...
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Jeanie
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Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:59 pm
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David,regards knowledge of chemtrails being responseable for mental illness of your friend,it's more likley stress, not enough rest, genetic, poor diet, negative thinking, whatever. Many around the world are wiseing up to chemtrails, now all that need's to be done is bringing it to an abrupt end...Got any suggestions?
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ScaredForTheFuture
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Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:45 pm
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ha ha ha, I think I know what you're talking about. Sometimes I feel like I am an alien visiting this planet when I point out a "cloud" that looks FAKE AS s!@# and the person I'm speaking to says "Looks like a cloud to me". I feel like I'm going crazy sometimes. It's complete frustration.
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halva
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Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:35 pm
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Be patient. We have reached the turning point.
WH |
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Jeanie
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:22 am
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Halva; I hope you are right that we have reached the turning point. Are you saying this because a small group are looking into "who to sue" ? Would you elaborate ? I need all the encouragement I can get as this atroscity seems endless. |
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mark sky
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:01 am
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quest ion ing "reality" again?
it seems that we all get a bit "haggaerd"
so to speek
when the reality does not fit the media expla~~nation
the scizizime tweeks and bends
what is real
who am i
is this a dream
you know |
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halva
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:34 am
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One of the big problems here in Europe was the non-contact, disconnectedess, between the mass movement against neo-liberal globalization and the marginalized, ignored and stigmatized 9/11 truth movements and chemtrails movements, which have been American movements systematically ignored in Europe, particularly by intellectuals.
The first "click", making possible a linking up and mutual reinforcement of these two currents now seems to have occurred.
What needs to happen now is for there to be an extension of this process embracing the more "populist" currents in the US and Europe.
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halva
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:39 am
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Jeanie, the "who to sue" initiative is not going to get anywhere. A lawyer has already told them there is no evidence that the sprayings are occurring.
The answer has to be found in politics, not in the courts. Or not in the courts we have now, but in the courts we must create,
The European integration process can be harnessed to push forward all these demands, if the right connections are made. |
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emfx13
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:51 pm
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quote:
The European integration process can be harnessed to push forward all these demands, if the right connections are made.
Who/what are these "connections"?How would we go about this?
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Jeanie
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:58 pm
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"A lawyer has already told them there is no evidence that the sprayings are occurring"
Halva, I know you are sincere but I really don't believe "there is no evidence" that areosol spraying is occuring globally.
There are ways of getting at the truth...With patience, perseverance, funds and cooperation of dedicated trustworthy individuals around the globe these law breaking tyrants could and should be brought to justice...The inumerable toxins can and must be identified and traced to their sources and cut off, with the suppliers of such, imprisioned...
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halva
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:09 pm
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Jeanie, I didn't say there is no evidence. I said a lawyer told them there is no evidence.
That doesn't mean that if you find enough evidence the lawyer is going to say one day. "Do you know, you are right. There is evidence."
The problem is not only with the transmitter. It is with the receiver.
Orgonote and I discussed all this, along with a lot of other stuff that probably won't interest you, on THIS thread:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000627.html |
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halva
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:14 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by emfx13:
[QUOTE]The European integration process can be harnessed to push forward all these demands, if the right connections are made.
Who/what are these "connections"?How would we go about this?
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The problem is more in Europe than in the United States. In the States you do have politically active people (Ruppert, Carol Brouillet and others in California particularly) who are on the right track. Their only problem is that they are very marginal. In Europe you have a much bigger movement, but with much worse politics.
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TrailDanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2003
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:26 pm
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In Dublin Ireland last Monday I filmed a plane looking like an airliner with Crossair or Swissair red and white cross tail, this plane appeared to have only 2 engines, but was leaving 3 equally thick white chemtrails.
Has anybody else seen a plane that appears to be an airliner doing this? |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:33 am
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quote:
Originally posted by TrailDanger:
Has anybody else seen a plane that appears to be an airliner doing this?
The jet looked like a cargo transport.
As it flared in to land, a dark football shaped protuberance below the fuselage was silouetted.
From the rear of the football a 'smoke' trailed aft.
Afterwards an afternoon dew was visible on lawns.
I stayed inside the house, windows closed, dehumidifiers filtering air.
Neighbors who went for walks, suffered flu like symptoms.
A nearby jail was closed because all inmates had a sudden mysterious disease, a spike in school absences was explained as a flu like illness.
One state away, a friend called and said airplanes are flying over very low lately.
He asked what makes contrails.
I explained hot moisture laden exhaust in cold air causes contrails.
"How about low altitude contrails?"
"No such thing below the artic. Stay inside for a day or two."
All his neighbors came down with flu like symptoms.
One died from "West Nile"
"How can we get West Nile with no mosquitos?"
He asked in the next phone call.
"Respiratory distress caused by inhalable particulates of toxic minerals can be mis-diagnosed."
I might empathise with the "friend" mentioned in the first post in this thread.
Until I set up videocams and motion detector actuated videorecorders I wondered about my computer being tampered with or me imagining things.
Returning from a shopping trip:
A Ford which had been in the supermarket parking lot zoomed past;
doing maybe 40 to 60 in a 25mph zone,
it bounced through the rain gutters at intersections and vanished down my street.
I turned into the street.
Here towards me came the Ford with a black GMC Surburban close behind.
Unloading my groceries,
a neighbor approached.
"Your guests have room to park in front of your house.
I'd appreciate they not use my curb."
I had no guests.
I'd just gotten home.
"I saw them go into your house." he insisted.
The videotape showed two men dressed like missionaries approach my door.
it showed both men walk away and across the street
and then a car and van zoomed past just before my car pulled into the drive.
I postulate:
"You aren't paranoid if you really have enemies."
Try to be an activist and you may get noticed.
(BTW- all I had done was stuff like: organize a letter writing campaign to President Chirac of France to get him to veto the unjustified invasion of Iraq)
"You aren't paranoid if you really have enemies."
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