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silentNOmore
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From a perspective of someone that just doesn't see, some posts must seem to be comming from mouths of mad men (women). So first we have disappearing aircraft, now EMFX13, you are seeing appearing aircraft. What an absolute fasinating time to be alive. I will have to keep my eyes peeled for those. Want to see something really wacked, look for the ground haze, look for the thickest area, get as close to it as you can and peer into it with binocs. Keep looking and you will see how they are creating the haze. (hint) the thickest part of the haze will be over water , or nonpopulated areas.
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Molliani
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Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:58 am
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[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Deborah:
I've already posted a considerable amount of reference material on the **geo-engineering project** known as Open Ocean Iron Fertilization in the past - and nobody reads it. So much for being "secretive." I DO share information, as anyone who knows me knows very well.
These iron fertilization pilot studies are generating *dimethyl sulfide* - which serves as cloud condensation nucleii over the marine layer and MAY be the source of that *abnormal fog*. These pilot studies also pump up the proliferation of a certain type of phytoplankton, Pseudo-nitzschia sp., which produces domoic acid, which KILLS everything within its reach.
Please look into this. These projects are going on in the ocean all over this globe. In the northern and southern Pacific. In the Indian Ocean. In the North Sea. In the Gulf of Mexico. Off the coasts of Australia and Hawaii.
Ocean Iron Fertilization is a geo-engineering technique intended to pump up the proliferation of CARBON-DIOXIDE-SUCKING phytoplankton - and the reason they want to do this is that, yes, there really IS too much CO2 in our atmosphere and they want to make of the oceans a more effective carbon sink.
Do I condone this activity? NO! NO! NO! NO! And neither do many marine scientists who understand the DAMAGE it can potentially wreak on our marine ecosystems.
ocean iron fertilization
Pseudo-nitzschia sp.
domoic acid
dimethyl sulfide
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Bad News . . . .
Thought I'd add an update to Deborah's
post.
Posted on Thu, Feb. 19, 2004
Monterey, Calif., scientists fertilize ocean with iron.
Aim of experiments is to increase plankton
By QUINN EASTMAN
Monterey (Calif.) Herald
In experiments that could help counteract global warming, oceanographers from Monterey County have been dribbling dissolved iron into the Pacific Ocean as fertilizer to promote the growth of plankton.
While some scientists say the proposed geoengineering plan could have disastrous side effects, researchers have agreed that the iron-fertilization experiments will continue on a small scale because of their value in teaching scientists about ocean ecology and chemistry.
Ken Johnson of the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute organized a discussion of iron fertilization at last week's American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Seattle. He led a three-ship research cruise to the Pacific Ocean south of New Zealand in 2002 along with Kenneth Coale, director of Moss Landing Marine Laboratories and Ken Buessler from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts.
Coale described the results of their 2002 iron fertilization experiment, the latest of about eight that have been conducted around the world since 1993.
They spread iron in two 15 kilometer by 15 kilometer squares and monitored the growth of plankton and the chemistry of the water. In Seattle, Coale showed pictures of the ships, which appeared small next to nearby icebergs, and vats of iron sulfate solution on the decks. He said the experiment was the first to measure plankton growth in parts of the ocean where the amounts of nutrients besides iron varied.
"This allows us to extrapolate how iron fertilization would affect larger expanses of the ocean," Coale said.
A remaining issue that previous iron fertilization experiments have not been able to pin down, he said, is exactly how much carbon sinks down to the bottom of the ocean long-term. He said oceanographers expect a German expedition to the Southern Pacific this year to begin to answer those questions.
John Martin at Moss Landing Marine Laboratories proposed the basic idea of iron fertilization, but he died in 1993 before getting a chance to physically test it. He had found that the main nutrient limiting the growth of plankton in 40 percent of the world's oceans was iron.
By adding iron, scientists could make plankton grow and soak up carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. If enough plankton sank deep into the ocean without being eaten by other life, planetary engineers could offset the gases humans make with their cars and electricity plants. Carbon dioxide in car exhaust is a major greenhouse gas.
In Ken Johnson's presentation, he noted that drilling through ice in Antarctica and examining the bubbles in the ice have allowed scientists to plot the amount of carbon dioxide in the air. The amount goes down in ice ages and up in warm periods. The current concentration, Johnson said, was above the maximum seen for the last half-million years.
Iron levels, as measured by the amounts of soil and dust in the Antarctic ice, also swung up and down through Earth's recent history. Iron levels moved the opposite direction as carbon dioxide with each swing. What scientists need to learn more about, Johnson said, is how powerful a motor iron is in driving climate change. He said that current models are inaccurate, failing to take into account the upwelling of nutrients near coastlines or how plankton secrete chemicals that help iron dissolve.
Regardless of the uncertainty, scientists know enough about the expected side effects of iron fertilization to say it's a bad idea, said Sallie Chisholm, an oceanographer from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
"It's not the answer," she said. "And there's no going back." Although she said it's a valuable research tool, she predicted that iron fertilization of the southern oceans on a large scale would ruin fish production elsewhere. It also might increase the production of other greenhouse gases, she said.
Mike Landry from Scripps Institution of Oceanography in San Diego countered with the suggestion that iron fertilization might be used in a limited way to mitigate the effects of global warming. He mentioned the Northern Pacific near Alaska as a place where the effects of global warming will begin to disrupt local marine life. He urged closer attention be paid to larger animals like fish and whales in future iron fertilization experiments.
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© 2004 Monterey County Herald and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.kansascity.com
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mark sky
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Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:56 pm
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emfx13 said 09-10-2002
Yesterday i was looking up and i saw a flash off of something metallic in the sky,then another flash,then out of nowhere a plane just appear's before my eye's...Very strange!!!!
Personally, I saw several of these on Wednesday Feb 11th 2004 near Mt Shasta Northern California. I was Driving South on interstate 5 and pop~Flash a bright silver multiple flash in the sky (where no chemtrail was before) and there was a plane and the start of a new chemtrail. One even took off eastward, while most headed north.
There was no other (sun flash?) off these planes after they first appeared.
In other news it looks like "Chemtrail Reports" has overloaded again as page 51 refuses to load and reports since 2/8/04 are lost, have contacted the other mods, so we may have to start volume #3.
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Deborah
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:36 am
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Molliani wrote:
.....Thought I'd add an update to Deborah's
post.
Posted on Thu, Feb. 19, 2004
Monterey, Calif., scientists fertilize ocean with iron.
Aim of experiments is to increase plankton
By QUINN EASTMAN
Monterey (Calif.) Herald.....
Thank you very much for the update, Molliani. I just now saw this.
Anyone who has the gall at this late date to deny DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE of large-scale marine, terrestrial and atmospheric geo-engineering projects NOW IN PROGRESS deserves to be completely IGNORED. |
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emfx13
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:12 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by mark sky:
emfx13 said 09-10-2002
Yesterday i was looking up and i saw a flash off of something metallic in the sky,then another flash,then out of nowhere a plane just appear's before my eye's...Very strange!!!!
Personally, I saw several of these on Wednesday Feb 11th 2004 near Mt Shasta Northern California. I was Driving South on interstate 5 and pop~Flash a bright silver multiple flash in the sky (where no chemtrail was before) and there was a plane and the start of a new chemtrail. One even took off eastward, while most headed north.
There was no other (sun flash?) off these planes after they first appeared.
In other news it looks like "Chemtrail Reports" has overloaded again as page 51 refuses to load and reports since 2/8/04 are lost, have contacted the other mods, so we may have to start volume #3.
Man i'm slow, just saw your reply. Very interesting, have you seen these recently? |
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
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Location: SW coast of Oregon |
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:36 pm
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emfx,
i have not been away from the coast since February. I have never seen this happen on the coast here, but only inland.
The Mount Shasta area of Northern California seems to have more unusual sky events than here, with the black beams and odd disappearing reapperaring "planes".
Deborah,
we continue to witness the "burning up" of the foliage of coastal trees, many of the shore pines are dead and continully falling onto the coast road. The redwoods don't look so good either. It looks much like the ozone damage and drought that are beeing blaimed for tree losses in inland forests downwind of city smog, but we are right on the ocean 5000 miles downwind of china, and we have not had drought (it just rained for three straight months, and more right now)
Recent ozone levels given for California counties in last weeks SF Chronical show low ozone along the north coast even for San Francisco, and very low up the coast toward us, yet we have the same tree symptoms. We continue to witness very large "patterns" being formed in the visible and fog sattelite channels upwind of us in the Pacific ocean offshore. The particulate precipitates on car windshields and undoubtedly on the leaves of plants, and in our lungs.
is the "cure" worse than the "disease".
I wonder also, when they talk about increased plankton, would not the plankton eaters like whales consume the increased food source? It seems like a lot of geo terra forming ennginering in major play, in all parts of the earth, without any publically acknowledged plan, or result.
this is not a test. |
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Sore Throat
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:29 pm
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"This is not a test".
This is desperation...flying by the seat of the pants...truly "winging it".
And this is being directed by the same people who sold you the line of "Weapons of Mass Destruction" to invade Iraq...
and they told you that new oil sales would cover the costs...
and that our troops would be greated with flowers as liberators.
We're daily becoming more aware of where those "Weapons of Mass Destruction" really are...
right here in the "Homeland"....
as we watch the sickness and death spread.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Sore Throat on 04-18-2004] |
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