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PostWed Nov 05, 2003 5:04 am  Reply with quote  

it is said
in the "last daze"
peanut brains atop pyre a mid Z
will turn the skies chartruse
and rivers shall run poca rummba dots

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with all the dervish mechanisms at thier command
and every thought they claim to know
they own the weather
but lost their soul


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the has been hag
prances across the TV
dragging commercial activities
behind her prost ill izeing
patute
many came to honor her
with widespread opiate

some complain
the music hearts their
otters unwilling to give in
turn the sound dial
the fright of the media calls
fear this fear that
fear all
daddy strangelove
has a bomb
called love
that will end it all
think left or right
never think for yourself
we will tell you what the debate is about
point up and see
and all the other prisoners in the matrix
will corner you in the cell
right and left will join together
in holie matri mony

such is the established ongoing plan

they dont like color or sound
independant thought is so foriegn
that they pattonE it ~michial reagan~
for it crushes their lies
and worst yet
hurts thier delicate ego
playing GOD~ danceing upon the DEVINE
man ip u lating DNA
hard casting the futures tyme
trying to upserp
the ONE WHO MAKES IT ALL





lettuce prey
willing vegetables of the world as we nude it
\for "those" whoes undueing it
shall be
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FROM> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cancer-testimonials/message/81

June 1965: Quote from Alfred Taylor, Ph.D, in a scientific letter
appearing in the Oct. 2, 1965 issue of Saturday Review:

" ... My contact with fluoridation came about as a result of cancer
research. In one project, various chemicals were added to the
drinking water of mice susceptible to cancer in order to check the
responsibility that some chemicals might delay the onset of the
disease or prevent it altogether. Among the chemicals used in this
research was sodium fluoride.

In the first two preliminary tests, the results obtained indicated
that mice drinking fluoridated water tended to develop cancer at an
earlier age as compared with control animals maintained on
fluoride-free water. These earlier tests were followed by further
investigations so that altogether, twelve experiments involving 645
mice were used in this research.

"The data indicated that drinking water with as little as 1 PPM
shortened the life span of mice an average of nine per cent. This
was true whether death was due to cancer or non-cancerous diseases.
The only notice proponents of fluoridation gave to this work was to
discredit it as much as possible. ... In experiments where the drug
was added directly to suspensions of cancer tissue before
inoculation into eggs or mice, sodium fluoride stimulated the
growth of cancer tissue in concentrations of one part in more than
20 million. Scientists at Cambridge University (British Medical
Journal, Oct 26, 1963) discovered that concentrations of sodium
fluoride as low as one part in ten million inhibited the growth of
a culture of human tissue. ... the growing weight of scientific
evidence that water-borne fluorides, even at 1 ppm, have toxic
possibilities must finally be recognized." ALFRED TAYLOR, Ph.D.,
Clayton Foundation, Biochemical Institute, University of Texas,
Austin Texas, 1965.

[Note: The "Environmental Protection Agency" [EPA] has raised the
level of fluoride in water to 4 ppm--more than allowed in swimming
pools. The EPA is a contributor to eugenics goals.]


JAPANESE FLUORIDE-RELATED CANCER RESEARCH

24 August, 1982: The Japan Times published an article expressing
concern about potential hazards of topical fluoride applications (9000
ppm) to teeth, and fluoride mouth rinses (250-500 ppm) has prompted
researchers at the Nippon Dental College in Tokyo to investigate
effects of fluoride on hamster fetal cell cultures, with results that
can only be described as very disturbing. At the August '82 meeting of
the Japanese Society for Cancer Research, Associate Professor of
Pharmacology Taketi Tsutsui and his colleague, Dr. Maizumi, reported
that 24-hour contact with sodium fluoride solutions at concentrations
of 34, 45, and 57 ppm (fluorine ion), results in morphological changes
and malignant transformations in second-generation hamster fetal
cells. After the one-day fluoride treatment, one group of cells was
cultured for one week and then fixed and stained for study. Survival
rates of 90, 50 and 30% were found for the exposure to 34, 45, and 57
ppm respectively, with morphological changes of 0.1, 0.5, and 1.0% in
the surviving colonies. In the untreated control cultures, the
incidence of abnormalities was significantly lower -- only 0.03% or
less.

In another series of experiments, cells from the 34 and 45-ppm
fluoride treatments were found to have acquired the ability to
proliferate in soft agar for an additional 50 to 200 days. These cells
were then shown to have developed a strong tumor-forming capacity. In
the untreated control cultures, neither proliferated in soft agar nor
acquisition of tumor-forming capacity were observed, and only one of
four cultures had transformed into one having infinite proliferative
characteristics.

Between 100 and 200 days after the sodium fluoride treatment, cells
from the 34 and 45-ppm treated cultures were transplanted subdermally
into each of two 10-hamster groups. The animals were then observed for
the appearance of tumors. All surviving three hamsters in the group
that received cells from the 34-ppm treated culture developed cancer
(fibro-carcinoma) at the site of injection. Likewise, all eight
surviving hamsters receiving the 45-ppm treated cells developed
cancer. The other hamsters in both groups died from causes other than
cancer, before the experiments were completed. None of the hamsters in
the control group that received the untreated cells, developed cancer.

"The terrifying conclusion of the studies was that fluorine greatly
induced a cancer tumor growth. If doctors and the public can be
made aware of this catastrophe, fluoridation shall end quickly. It
will someday be recognized as the most lethal and stupid "Health
Program" ever conceived by the mind of man, witch doctors and
blood-letters not excepted."


WHEN DID THIS FLUORIDATION MADNESS BEGIN?

The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water was found in
Germany's Nazi prison camps, which were maintained partly by I.G.
Farben. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed
effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating
water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force them into
calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G.
Farben" by Joseph Borkin.

I.G. FARBEN DEVELOPED FLUORINATED SARIN AND SOMAN NERVE GAS: The name
"SARIN" is an acronym of the names of the four key I.G. Farben
employees involved in its initial chemical formulation and production:
Schrader, Ambros, Rudriger, and Van Der Linde. Otto Ambros was the
production chief of I.G. Farben's poison gas facilities in Germany.
(See Ambros' photo on p. 286 of "World Without Cancer" by G. Edward
Griffin.)

Sarin was developed to replace deadly Malathion and Zyklon B nerve
gases, specifically with the intent to exterminate millions of people.
Fluoride-bearing Sarin was reportedly so strong, "it made Zyklon B
look like underarm deodorant." (The Dickinson Statement, "Health
Consciousness", October 1988)


PROFESSIONAL TESTIMONY:

The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for
Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr.
Charles Perkins, a chemist:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further
documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth
About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water
fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian
Communist Kreminoff.

[Note: Dr. Horowitz, in "Healing Codes for the Biological
Apocalypse" says Hitler's elite escaped through underground tunnels,
changed their names to Jewish names, and went to various nations,
including America. Where Hitler failed, they vow to succeed. ]

"In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazi's envisioned a world to
be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism.
The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching
plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the
German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in
any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies.
By this method they could control the population in whole areas,
reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility
in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium
fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...,

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time
reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly
poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making
him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A
convenient invisible lobotomy]

[Note: lobotomy is cutting out part of one's brain]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit
children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways
in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far
more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to
reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and
loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the
German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged
scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme
of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the
Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to
communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an
official of the great Farben chemical industries and was also
prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the
earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20
years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and
pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially
fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again
be the same person mentally or physically." CHARLES E. PERKINS,
Chemist, 2 October 1954.

Quoting Einstein's nephew, Dr. E.H. Bronner (a chemist who had also
been a prisoner of war during WWII) in a letter printed in The
Catholic Mirror, Springfield, MA, January 1952:

"It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the 'next'
on the agenda of the water poisoners. "There is a sinister network
of subversive agents, Godless 'intellectual' parasites, working in
our country today whose ramifications grow more extensive, more
successful and more alarming each new year and whose true objective
is to demoralize, paralyze and destroy our great Republic--from
within if they can, according to their plan--for their own
possession. "The tragic success they have already attained in their
long siege to destroy the moral fiber of American life is now one
of their most potent footholds towards their own ultimate victory
over us. "Fluoridation of our community water systems can well
become their most subtle weapon for our sure physical and mental
deterioration.

"We discussed in these schools, the complete art of revolution: the
seizure of the main utilities, such as light, power, gas, and
water, but it was felt by the leadership that if a program of
fluoridating of the water could be carried out in the nation, it
would go a long way toward the advancement of the revolution. "The
above statements are true." Oliver Kenneth Goff.

[Note: Much of the electricity in America is under a "grid", or
controlled.]

(Signed & notarized 6/22/57.)

20 years after Mr. Goff was indoctrinated on the Communist purposes of
fluoridating U.S. water supplies, in New York there appeared an
article in the 13 April 1956 issue of THE COMMUNIST DAILY WORKER
entitled "Facts Spur Campaign for Fluoridation Here":

"Politicians of the [New York] City Council and Board of Estimate
are timid men who are catering to misguided sentiment, outmoded
tradition, and backward fears of the unscientific. A widespread
educational campaign among both the politicians and people on the
- value of the Board of Health's program for fluoridation is
certainly indicated."

[Note: Propaganda is often aimed at the influential decision makers
-- Schools, Universities, Laws, and Medicine.]

FLUORIDE POLITICS

1952: The Delaney Committee 82nd Congress Hearings on Fluoride
revealed that there was no actual scientific basis for the
fluoridation of water supplies in the prevention of tooth decay. The
recommendation of the Committee was that more research be done, before
proceeding with this national mass medication. Their recommendation
was totally ignored.

1953: In a joint speech, U.S. Surgeon-General Scheele and Health,
Education & Welfare Undersecretary Nelson (follow the money)
Rockefeller announced hopeful plans to put more medicine than just
fluoride into the U.S. water supplies:

"Dr. Scheele, in discussing mass-application methods for preventing
-non-infectious diseases, said a case in point was fluoridation of
water supplies to reduce tooth decay. Nearly 800 cities throughout
the country have adopted the technique during the past 10 years, he
said. Such a community-wide attack on "far more serious diseases
than dental decay" probably will be forthcoming after laboratory
tests have paved the way, he predicted." (Paterson Evening News,
11/6/53)

1950's comment by Edward L. Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud and PR
man for the fluoridation project under Oscar Ewing:

[Freud was a member of this subversive party]

"... the most direct way to reach the mind of the HERD is through
the leaders. ... Public Health Officers cannot afford the
professional modesty professed by physicians. A redefinition of
ethics is necessary.... and the subject matter of the propaganda
need not necessarily be true." (Book: Crystallizing Public Opinion,
by E. L. Bernays.)

[Note: "Re-definition of ethics" means the changing of God's laws
into what the Bible prophecies as "doctrines of man and of demons".
This means that "good is made to look like evil, and evil is made to
look like good." When man does evil, judgment comes to a nation.]


Fluoride Symptoms:

One or more of: Premature aging of the human body, Shortens life span,
Genetic damage up to 3 generations, Alzheimers, Anemia, Calcified
deposits on the Aorta, Circulatory complaints, Headache, Makes us
stupid, Bone cancer, Carcinogen, Increases tumor growth rate, liver
cancer, Water pollution, Drooping of the eyelid, Vision problems,
Decreased sex urge, Infertility in males, Reproductive dysfunction,
Birth defects, Inhibition of DNA repairs, Mutates human cells,
Teratogen (monstrous abnormalities in lab experiments), Down's
syndrome, EKG changes, Disturbs immune defense, Increased immune
system response (allergies, auto immune diseases), Inhibits
antibodies, Death, Early infant mortality, Earlier onset of puberty,
The only active part of the nerve gas Sarin, Phytotoxic (kills
plants), Rat killer most efficient, Stillbirth, Used in chemical
cleaning as a fungicide and insecticide, Cumulative poison, Asthma,
Cyanosis, Respiratory complaints, Respiratory depression, Anorexia
(loss of appetite), Behavioral disturbances, Burning sensation,
Excessive thirst, Hyper motility (Extremely physically active),
Hyperactivity, Makes us Docile, Lethargy, Depression, Confusion,
Suicide, Makes us subservient, Mental disturbances, Affects memory,
Nausea, Motor dysfunction, Learning disabilities, Nervous complaints,
Rage, Convulsions, Increased Aluminum concentration in the brain,
Hypothyroidism, Impaired Melatonin production in Pineal glands,
Goiter, Increased levels of Lead in children's blood leading to higher
crime rate, attention deficit order and learning disabilities.
Prickling sensation, Severely interferes with the functions of the
nerve channels, Stupor, Smell sensory loss, Unsteady gait,
Osteosarcoma, Uterine Cancer, Tingling sensation, Tremors,
Deactivating enzymes, Depressing thyroid activity, Disturbs metabolic
processes, Enzyme system effects, Hypoglycemia, Kidney damage,
Salivary gland changes, Wasting and cahexia (General wasting of the
body during a chronic disease), Accelerates Osteoporosis, Alters
calcium metabolism, Severe bone changes, Hip fractures, Malformed
spine and neck and pelvis, Musculo skeletal changes, Promotes
Arthritis, Severely disrupts formation to the bone matrix, thereby
inhibiting the proper hardening of the bones, Crippling Skeletal
Fluorosis, weakened tooth structure, Acne-like eruptions around the
mouth, Eczema, Itching of the skin, Skin rashes, Abdominal distress,
Diarrhea, Gastric distress, Intestinal complaints, Vomiting, Changes
in teeth and supporting structures, Delayed eruption of teeth, Dental
defects, Dental fluorosis, Discolored teeth, Mottled teeth, No effect
on tooth decay, Muscle weakness, Weakness, Weight loss. Colon Cancer,
Growth disturbance in children, Disturbed menstrual cycles, Chronic
Joint pains, Carpal tunnel syndrome, Lupus, Fibromyalgia.

What it is:

Fluoride is a very strong poison that accumulates in our body. It is a
stronger poison than Lead and even Uranium. The Fluoride is not
efficient at all against dental cavities. Fluoride leads among other
things to reduced fertility. It affects the brain to make us more
docile, sheep-like and even unwilling to resist tyrants... It was used
as a pacifier of prisoners in the Gulag archipelago in Russia and in
prisons in Nazi-Germany. Communists had containers with Fluoride in
some areas around the world ready to contaminate drinking water at
command. It is the only efficient part of the nerve gas Sarin and a
very efficient RAT POISON.


[Note: The European Union plans to control all vitamins, minerals,
and natural food medicines through "Codex". This is the world
government prophesied in Revelations. By controlling God-made natural
medicines, they can easily achieve their "population control"/eugenics
agenda to murder millions.]
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FROM> http://www.fargo.k12.nd.us/schools/Discovery/Fisher/wartwofacts.html

ATOMIC BOMB
On December 6, 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt met with a small group of scientists to announce an earth-shattering decision. He told them to go ahead with experiments directed at making an atomic bomb. The Manhattan Project, as the effort to make the atomic bomb was called, was put under the the direction of General Leslie Groves. This effort proceeded much as planned, costing $2 billion and employing thousands of people. The project was so secret that nobody even told Vice-President Harry Truman about it. He did not learn about it until after President Roosevelt's death and then he had to make the decision whether to drop it on Japan or not.

FROM> http://www.hcc.mnscu.edu/programs/dept/chem/abomb/page_id_30032.html

[img] ]http://www.hcc.mnscu.edu/programs/dept/chem/abomb/S1_Committee.jpg[/img]
Ernest Lawrence, Arthur Compton, Vannevar Bush, James B. Conant
Courtesy of the Nathional Archives
June 28, 1941
The Office of Scientific Research and Development is formed to mobilize the scientific resources of the nation and apply the results of research to national defense. Vannevar Bush is named director and answers only to the President . The NDRC, the military labs and the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics were all research organizations. The OSRD was put in charge of all of them and also empowered with the authority to pursue engineering development. The NDRC continued as part of the OSRD with Harvard president James B. Conant in charge. The NDRC's mission was to make recommendations on research and development. Around this same time Bush orders a series of National Academy of Sciences studies to determine the current state of knowledge on nuclear fission

FROM> http://www.doug-long.com/bush.htm

THE MAN BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE ATOMIC BOMB
The U.S. government's atomic bomb project began with Albert Einstein's letter to President Franklin Roosevelt. And Gen. Leslie Groves brought the a-bomb to completion. But in between there was Vannevar Bush, the man behind the scenes of the atomic bomb project.
Bush joked that people called him "Van" because they didn't know how to pronounce Vannevar (vuh-NEE-ver; rhymes with "achiever"). Most people didn't know his name at all during World War II, and few today realize what he did to bring about the invention of the atomic bomb.
In 1932 Bush became a vice-president and dean at MIT. During the 1930s he grew worried by the increasing instability in Europe and Asia and by the possibility that America might be drawn into war. He accepted the presidency of the Carnegie Institute in 1939, largely for the opportunity to promote research and technology to the military. Most importantly, this and his position as chairman of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics marked his entrance into the world of Washington politics.
Using his new Washington connections, he arranged a meeting with President Roosevelt in June 1940. Bush proposed the creation of an organization that would promote and organize military technology research. FDR immediately approved the creation and funding of the National Defense Resource Committee (NDRC), with Vannevar Bush as its chairman (G. Pascal Zachary, Endless Frontier: Vannevar Bush, Engineer of the American Century, pg. 110-112). Soon Bush was FDR's primary military research advisor.
Bush began bringing other military research committees under the NDRC to coordinate their efforts. One of them was the Uranium Committee, whose purpose was to study the possibility of building an atomic bomb. But the Uranium Committee worked very slowly and had little funding. And it continued its slow pace after it was absorbed into the NDRC. Bush did not want to divert resources and money from projects that might help the U.S. in World War II to a weapon whose feasibility he felt was "remote" (Zachary, pg. 191).
But three factors convinced Bush in 1941 that the U.S. should embark on an all-out program to make an atomic bomb:
„h Urging from a few of the scientists who thought the a-bomb might be possible.
„h The MAUD Report, written by British scientists, which said an a-bomb was possible and could be made in time to help during World War II.
„h Most importantly, the fear that Germany would get an a-bomb. As Bush later put it, "the result in the hands of Hitler might indeed enable him to enslave the world. It was essential to get there first" (Bush, pg. 59).
Bush met with Roosevelt on Oct. 9, 1941. He told him of the MAUD Report's findings and of the possibility of a German a-bomb project. Bush obtained Roosevelt's approval for full-scale research and planning on the a-bomb. But plant construction and development of the bomb were not to begin without FDR's approval (Bush-Conant Files, RG 227, microfilm 1392, roll 1, folder 1, Memorandum For Dr. Conant, Oct. 9, 1941, National Archives; Harrison-Bundy Files, RG 77, microfilm 1108, roll 4, folder 58, Bush letter to FDR, March 9, 1942, National Archives). At Bush's request, the Top Policy Group was formed to advise FDR on atomic bomb policy (Martin Sherwin, A World Destroyed, pg. 37). On this small group, Bush would be the most influential. And Bush, along with his close colleague James Conant, would continue to run the a-bomb project.
The exact date that FDR gave the go-ahead to build an atomic bomb is uncertain. But by Dec. 1941 Bush was making plans for construction of the plants necessary to create fissionable material for the atomic bomb (Bush, pg. 61; Zachary, pg. 198-199, Richard Hewlett & Oscar Anderson, The New World, pg. 50-51). And on March 9, 1942 Bush sent a memo to FDR with a strong argument for building the a-bomb:
The Manhattan Project would be run by Gen. Leslie Groves, and the Military Policy Committee would oversee it.
FDR seldom shared his thoughts with anyone on the atomic bomb. But he expressed a concern to Bush at a Sept. 22, 1944 meeting about whether the a-bomb should be used:
"the President raised the question of whether this means should actually be used against the Japanese or whether it should be used only as a threat with full-scale experimentation in this country".
Bush's concern over post-war atomic bomb problems increased as his influence with FDR waned. Bush was "much disturbed" to learn at his Sept. 22nd meeting with FDR that the President had discussed post-war nuclear relations with Churchill four days earlier without first consulting his advisors. Bush feared that a U.S.-U.K. nuclear relationship that excluded Russia "might well lead to extraordinary efforts on the part of Russia to establish its own position in the [nuclear weapons] field secretly, and might lead to a clash, say 20 years from now" (Bush-Conant Files, RG 227, microfilm 1392, roll 5, folder 38, Memorandum For Dr. Conant, September 25, 1944, National Archives).
Bush and Conant also recommended that the first use of an atomic bomb "might be over enemy territory, or in our own country, with subsequent notice to Japan that the materials would be used against the Japanese mainland unless surrender was forthcoming."
FROM> http://www.doug-long.com/einstein.htm
The physicist Albert Einstein did not directly participate in the invention of the atomic bomb. But as we shall see, he was instrumental in facilitating its development.
In 1905, as part of his Special Theory of Relativity, he made the intriguing point that a large amount of energy could be released from a small amount of matter. This was expressed by the equation E=mc2 (energy = mass times the speed of light squared). The atomic bomb would clearly illustrate this principle.
But bombs were not what Einstein had in mind when he published this equation. Indeed, he considered himself to be a pacifist. In 1929, he publicly declared that if a war broke out he would "unconditionally refuse to do war service, direct or indirect... regardless of how the cause of the war should be judged
The atomic bomb related work that Einstein did was very limited and he completed it in two days during December 1941. Vannevar Bush, who was coordinating the scientific work on the a-bomb at that time, asked Einstein's advice on a theoretical problem involved in separating fissionable material by gaseous diffusion. But Bush and other leaders in the atomic bomb project excluded Einstein from any other a-bomb related work. Bush didn't trust Einstein to keep the project a secret: "I am not at all sure... [Einstein] would not discuss it in a way that it should not be discussed."
As the realization of nuclear weapons grew near, Einstein looked beyond the current war to future problems that such weapons could bring. He wrote to physicist Niels Bohr in December 1944, "when the war is over, then there will be in all countries a pursuit of secret war preparations with technological means which will lead inevitably to preventative wars and to destruction even more terrible than the present destruction of life." (Clark, pg. 698).
The atomic bombings of Japan occurred three months after the surrender of Germany, whose potential for creating a Nazi a-bomb had led Einstein to push for the development of an a-bomb for the Allies. Einstein withheld public comment on the atomic bombing of Japan until a year afterward. A short article on the front page of the New York Times contained his view: "Prof. Albert Einstein... said that he was sure that President Roosevelt would have forbidden the atomic bombing of Hiroshima had he been alive and that it was probably carried out to end the Pacific war before Russia could participate." ("Einstein Deplores Use of Atom Bomb", New York Times, 8/19/46, pg. 1). Einstein later wrote, "I have always condemned the use of the atomic bomb against Japan." (Otto Nathan & Heinz Norden, editors, "Einstein on Peace", pg. 589).
In November 1954, five months before his death, Einstein summarized his feelings about his role in the creation of the atomic bomb: "I made one great mistake in my life... when I signed the letter to President Roosevelt recommending that atom bombs be made; but there was some justification - the danger that the Germans would make them." (Clark, pg. 752).
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"(A) nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
--- President John F. Kennedy, in remarks made on the 20th anniversary of the Voice of America at H.E.W. Auditorium, February 26, 1962

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
--- President John F. Kennedy
FIRE FROM THE SKY

by "One Who Knows"

PART 27:

WHO CREATED THE ATOMIC BOMB?

Boris Pash, head of security for the Manhattan Project, and scientist
Samuel Goudsmit followed the lead tanks into Paris and into Germany,
looking for the German nuclear laboratory, which they found in Strasbourg.
This was called Operation Alsos (Greek for "Groves"). Peter Goodchild in
his book *J. Robert Oppenheimer, Shatterer of Worlds,* p. 110 said: "Very
soon a picture of the Germans' progress began to emerge. They revealed that
Hitler had been told of the possibilities of a nuclear weapon in 1942 and
that there had been a whole series of uranium pile experiments.

But the crucial facts were that even as late as August 1944 the experiments
were still at an early stage. The Germans had neither the certain
information that an explosive chain reaction was possible, nor did they
have the material or the mechanism to make their bomb. It was apparent that
the project had moved forward hardly at all since 1942. There were one or
two people in Washington who, when they read Goudsmit's final report,
suspected that the information had come too easily, but most people
believed it."

It is possible that Germany DID develop the bomb, and the Allies kept it
secret? In *Heisenberg's War,* p. 481, Vannevar Bush is quoted as saying in
June 1949: "The Nazis wanted an atomic bomb; we knew that. They had as good
a chance at it as we had. In the tense years up to 1945 we thought that
they were close competitors, even that they might be six months ahead of
us. Then after Stuttgart fell and the Alsos mission did its work, we found
out. The Nazis had not even reached first base." Surprise, surprise. Or was
it lie, lie?

My best guess, based on the evidence, is that there is a strong possibility
Germany DID develop the atomic bomb! The Americans managed to capture some
of them in early 1945, then on August 6, 1945, dropped one on Hiroshima.
This would account for J. Robert Oppenheimer's curious statement that the
bomb dropped on Hiroshima was made in Germany. Could the Germans have taken
some bombs with them when Hitler escaped? Was the submarine convoy
protected by nuclear weapons, and were they what stopped Operation
Highjump? Perhaps not, that is just conjecture, but I strongly suspect we
got the "bomb" from the Germans.

In *Blowback,* "the first full account of America's recruitment of Nazis,
and its disastrous effect on our domestic and foreign policy" by
Christopher Simpson, he states: "On July 6 [1945] the Joint Chiefs of Staff
(JCS) specifically authorized an effort to 'exploit... chosen, rare minds
whose continuing intellectual productivity we wish to use' under the top
secret project code-named Overcast... At first this was justified on the
grounds that German scientists might be useful in the continuing war
against Japan" (p.33).

When the Allies found the German atomic bomb laboratory, they were amazed
that it was just a small concrete reactor in a cave, too small to go
critical. Yet they went to considerable trouble in a top secret program to
grab these scientists because they might be useful in defeating Japan? What
were they going to do, throw radioactive concrete at the Japanese? Tom
Agoston in *Blunder!* says (p. 3Cool that "Unknown to Allied scientists, the
Germans had been able to build up a sizeable stockpile of U-235 and had
held up to two tons, as well as two tons of heavy water."

William Stevenson, in *A Man Called Intrepid,* says "The Germans had the
man [Heisenberg] whose theoretical work was the basis of the bomb" (p. 456)
and "In the military field, the view prevailed in 1939 that the country
with the greatest chance of bringing together the pieces was Germany."

Let's see now, the atomic bomb was a German idea, they had the best
scientists, they had a proven ability to develop advanced weapons, they had
plenty of raw material, and yet their "bomb" consisted of nothing more than
some radioactive concrete in a cave in a hill at the base of a church?
(*Heisenberg's War,* p. 421.) The German laboratory was captured on April
21, 1945, then three months later on July 16 a bomb was tested at
Alamogordo, New Mexico. Then on August 6, 1945, one was dropped on
Hiroshima, and August 9 on Nagasaki. This is not counting the nuclear
explosion in the Oakland, California, area, but we are not supposed to know
about that.

Pash and Goudsmit in Operation Alsos captured several tons of uranium and
"it was shipped to Britain and then the United States, transformed into
uranium hexaflouride gas for isotope separation at Oak Ridge, Tennessee,
and finally in the form of U-235 used to destroy Hiroshima." (*Heisenberg's
War,* p. 362.)

Most classified files from World War II have been routinely declassified
under the provisions of the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. Tom Agoston
(*Blunder!,* p. 124) said of the Alsos information, "The files continued to
be suppressed and remain under lock and key in Washington, well beyond the
thirty-year rule. The motive for this remains a four-decade mystery."

He also said that the testimony of Albert Speer, referring to General
Kammler, "The transcript continues to be classified beyond the normal
thirty-year rule, and is not expected to be made public before 2020."

Kammler disappeared at the end of the War and it was reported that he
committed suicide (four different versions). If he were dead, why the
secrecy? Kammler was regarded as "the most important man in Germany outside
the Cabinet." The chain of command was Hitler to Himmler to Himmler's
Deputy SS General Karl Wolff to SS General Oswald Pohl to Kammler, and
later the link was more direct.

Dr. Wilhelm Voss told Agoston what happened to Kammler was a "hot matter"
that could not be revealed. Agoston said one of Kammler's close associates
was Rudolph Hess, who flew to Britain on a secret mission in May 1941. "The
secret British file that might explain why he flew to Britain will remain
closed until the year 2020" (p.160).

What clinched the proof for me was when I read in Phoenix Journal #18
(*Blood And Ashes*), speaking of the Manhattan Project, "Of course, they
utilized the German production urn and, actually, the bomb used on Japan
was constructed in Germany" (p. 159). The author of those Journals is "One
Who Knows."

GERMAN SUBMARINES IN SOUTH ATLANTIC

The newspaper *France Soir* had the following account: "Almost 1-1/2 years
after cessation of hostilities in Europe, the Islandic Whaler, "Juliana"
was stopped by a large German U-boat. The Juliana was in the Antarctic
region around Malvinas [now Falkland] Islands when a German submarine
surfaced and raised the German official naval Flag of Mourning - red with a
black edge.

The submarine commander sent out a boarding party, which approached the
Juliana in a rubber dinghy, and having boarded the whaler demanded of Capt.
Hekla part of his fresh food stocks. The request was made in the definite
tone of an order to which resistance would have been unwise. The German
officer spoke a correct English and paid for his provisions in U.S.
dollars, giving the Captain a bonus of $10 for each member of the Juliana
crew. Whilst the food stuffs were being transferred to the submarine, the
submarine commander informed Capt. Hekla of the exact location of a large
school of whales. Later the Juliana found the school of whales where
designated."

The French *Agence France Press* on 25 September 1946, said: "The
continuous rumours about German U-boat activity in the region of Tierra del
Fuego (Feuerland, in German), between the southernmost tip of Latin America
and the continent of Antarctica are based on true happenings."

There have been stories and books written about Germans counterfeiting U.S.
currency and otherwise obtaining American money printing plates, which may
account for the German use of American money.

The Guinness Book of World Records says that the "greatest unsolved
robbery" was the disappearance of the entire German treasury at the end of
the war.

RAND CORPORATION

In January 1946 industrialist Donald Douglas approached the Army Air Force
with a plan for government and industry to work together on long range
strategic planning. This was called Project RAND, a name coined by Arthur
Raymond from Research ANd Development. Much of their first government money
went to the von Braun team. (McDougall, Walter al. ...*the Heavens and the
Earth, A Political History of the Space Age,* Basic Books, New York, 1985,
p. 89.)

LESLIE R. GROVES

Groves is known as the General in charge of the Manhattan Project which
built the Atomic Bomb. He was chosen because he is the one who supervised
the building of the Pentagon, and by 1942 was in charge of all U.S.
military construction everywhere. After the war he went to work for
Remington Rand Corporation.

BORIS PASH

"The stakes in the search for the scientific expertise of Germany were
high. The single most important American strike force, for example, was the
Alsos raiding team, which targeted Axis atomic research, uranium
stockpiles, and nuclear scientists, as well as Nazi chemical and biological
warfare research. The commander of this assignment was U.S. Army Colonel
Boris Pash, who had previously been security chief of the Manhattan Project
- the United States' atomic bomb development program - and who later played
an important role in highly secret U.S. covert action programs.

Pash succeeded brilliantly in his mission, seizing top German scientists
and more than 70,000 tons of Axis uranium ore and radium products. The
uranium taken during these raids was eventually shipped to the United
States and incorporated in U.S. atomic weapons." (Simpson, Christopher,
*Blowback,* Collier Books, New York, 1988, p. 26.)

"Another notable Bloodstone veteran is Boris Pash, a career intelligence
officer identified in the Final Report of the U.S. Senate's 1975-1976
investigation into U.S. intelligence activities as the retired director of
the CIA unit responsible for planning assassinations" (*Blowback,* p. 108).


*Blowback,* p. 152-153 says: "The records of Operation Bloodstone add an
important new piece of information to one of the most explosive public
issues of today: the role of the U.S. government - specifically the CIA -
in assassinations and attempted assassinations of foreign officials.
According to a 1976 Senate investigation, a key official of Operation
Bloodstone is the OPC officer who was specifically delegated responsibility
for planning the agency's assassinations, kidnappings, and similar 'wet
work.'

"Colonel Boris Pash, one of the most extraordinary and least known
characters in American intelligence history... his work for U.S.
intelligence agencies places him in the critical office given the
responsibility for planning postwar assassination operations... Colonel
Pash is one of the few remaining originals of U.S. intelligence, and his
experience in 'fighting the communists' goes back to the 1917 Russian
Revolution.

He was in Moscow and Eastern Europe in those days with his father, a
missionary of Russian extraction, and the young Pash spent much of the
Soviet civil war working on the side of the White armies, then with Czarist
refugees who had fled their country. In the 1920s Pash signed on as a
reserve officer with the U.S. military intelligence service... he... played
a role in the internment of Japanese civilians in California, and was soon
assigned as chief counterintelligence officer on the Manhattan Project, the
supersecret U.S. effort to develop the atomic bomb. (More than a decade
later it was Colonel Pash's testimony that helped seal the fate of
scientist Robert Oppenheimer in the well-known 1954 security case.)

Before the war was out, it will be recalled, Colonel Pash led the series of
celebrated special operations known as the Alsos Mission that were designed
to capture the best atomic and chemical warfare experts that the Nazis had
to offer.

"After the war Colonel Pash served as the army's representative on
Bloodstone in the spring of 1948, when the tasks of that project, including
recruiting defectors, smuggling refugees out from behind the Iron Curtain,
and assassinations, were established. Bloodstone's 'special operations,' as
defined by the Pentagon, could 'include clandestine warfare, subversion,
sabotage and... assassination,' according to the 1948 Joint Chiefs of Staff
records. In March 1949, Pash was assigned by the army to the OPC division
of the CIA... His five-man CIA unit, known as PB/7, was given a written
charter that read in part that 'PB/7 will be responsible for
assassinations, kidnapping, and such other functions as from time to time
may be given it... by higher authority.'"

From *Dulles* by Leonard Mosley (A Biography of Eleanor, Allen and John
Foster. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1978.), we find, p. 459: "But now he
[Allen Dulles] was interested in the more sinister Agency experiments in
mind-bending drugs, portable phials of lethal viruses, and esoteric poisons
that killed without trace. Allen's sense of humor was touched when he
learned that the unit working on these noxious enterprises was called the
*Health Alteration Committee* (directed by Dr. Sidney Gottlieb and Boris
Pash)... Richard Bissell... had now succeeded Frank Wisner as deputy
director of Plans..."

To learn more about the mind-control and torture experiments of Pash and
Gottlieb, read *Journey Into Madness: The True Story of Secret CIA Mind
Control and Medical Abuse* by Gordon Thomas (Bantam Books, New York, 1989).


One of the people they killed was Frank Olson (a CIA germ warfare doctor
whose specialty was anthrax), while they were working on Subproject-68,
also known as MK-ULTRA. MK-ULTRA started as *Project Bluebird,* set up on
April 20, 1950, by CIA Director Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter (who later was
a member of NICAP), and on July 20, 1950, they began using sodium amytal,
Benzedrine and other drugs to "brainwash" prisoners.

In September 1950, the *Miami News* published an article under the headline
BRAIN WASHING TACTICS which was considered the first formal use of the
term. One of Gottlieb's partners was Dr. Harold Wolff, who appears to be a
Paperclip doctor. He worked with Parke-Davis and "...remained closely
connected with the M-K Ultra brainwashing project" (p. 191). He helped set
up an apartment and introduce LSD to the hippies in San Francisco, and
worked on Project Mindbender (a Manchurian-Candidate type operation) with
William Buckley.

Isn't it interesting that so many of the participants in the most secret of
secrets of World War II are still very involved in the Kennedy
assassination and other more current affairs. Many books and articles have
been written about the CIA being involved in the JFK assassination, and now
you know that the man in charge of CIA assassinations was Boris Pash,
formerly chief of security for the Manhattan Project. He was also head of
the group trying to capture Hitler's advanced technology, including "flying
saucers" and other secrets.

The book *ZR Rifle - The Plot To Kill Kennedy And Castro* by Claudia
Furiati, p. 36, says that a man named William Harvey had been in charge of
the CIA post in West Berlin until 1960, then was placed in charge of CIA
assassinations by Richard Bissell in 1961. The plans to assassinate
political leaders was code-named *ZR-RIFLE,* headed by Harvey. Bo Gritz
said on p. 525 of his book: "The Kennedy assassination was code-named
'ZR-RIFLE'." It seems apparent to me that Harvey and Pash were wearing the
same pair of pants.

In 1941, Ian Fleming, the future creator of the "James Bond" stories, and
at that time a high ranking officer of British Intelligence, suggested to
William Donovan that he set up a specially trained and selected
assassination unit. PB/7 (Pash Boris Seven) was the original of the "Agent
007" concept. If my memory is correct, I believe Nixon stated that William
Harvey was the real 007.

I assume Pash was Agent 001, or perhaps he had seven agents working for him
(originally five). If you want to understand more of how these various
factions such as CIA, KGB, Nazis, Communists, FBI, etc., can be fighting
each other and working together at the same time, you need to understand
who was above them, controlling them. To understand that, look to British
Intelligence! You will find British Intelligence to be an operation of
British and European Royalty and "Aristocracy"!

E. Howard Hunt, while in prison in December, 1975, in an interview with the
*New York Times,* said that the head of the CIA assassination unit was
Boris Pash. Pash was assigned to Angleton at this time (see *Final
Judgment,* p. 207). Angleton was head of the Israel desk of the CIA and was
very pro-Israel. He was also closely involved with Meyer Lansky.

In *Cold Warrior,* the biography of James Jesus Angleton by Tom Mangold, he
says on page 362: "I would like to place on the record, however, that
Angleton's closest professional friends overseas, then and subsequently,
came from the Mossad (the Israeli intelligence-gathering service) and that
he was held in immense esteem by his Israeli colleagues and by the state of
Israel, which was to award him profound honors after his death." His place
was taken after his death by William Colby. When Kissinger wanted to "get
LaRouche," he turned to Angleton for help. Angleton's tombstone is in
Hebrew.

On page 97 of *Final Judgment,* Piper says that "The ZR/Rifle Team, in
fact, was one of Angleton's pet in-house CIA projects, which he ran in
conjunction with his CIA colleague, William Harvey."

According to Claudia Furiati, Joseph Schreider was in charge of the CIA
laboratories and of developing poisons for assassinations, and says that
Harvey was in charge of political assassinations, working out of the Miami
office run by [Paperclip] Shackley, and was working with Schreider to try
to poison Castro. Above we have Boris Pash and Sidney Gottlieb working
together in the same manner. We have Pash and Harvey in the same locations,
doing the same jobs, in charge of the same projects - talk about
featherbedding. I believe that Harvey was actually at headquarters in
Langley, over Shackley in Miami.

*Blowback,* p. 153, says that Pash "...served as the Army's representative
on Bloodstone in the spring of 1948, when the tasks of that project,
including recruiting defectors, smuggling refugees out from behind the Iron
Curtain, and assassinations, were established. In March 1949, Pash was
assigned by the Army to the OPC division of the CIA."

Harvey died June 6, 1976, according to Dick Russell, and Pash was in his
80s in 1988 according to Simpson.

END OF PART 27.


http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_12

Majestic-12 is a supposed committee which was formed in 1952 to investigate UFO activity. This committee is an important part of the UFO conspiracy theory and its existence has been denied by the United States government which insists that documents suggesting its existence are bogus.

The committee was supposed to have been chaired by Vannevar Bush, Robert Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein. In the minds of those who believe in this conspiracy, the scope of Majestic 12 operations cover not only the USA, but China and Russia, and the findings of alien technology is traded between secret organizations of these parties in order to achieve world domination or similar.


Influences
This conspiracy has widely inspired the main conspiracy theme of the popular TV series The X-Files and Dark Skies.

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PostWed Jan 07, 2004 9:11 am  Reply with quote  

this carefully calibrated balence ing act
how far can they go toward "natural causes"
and infertility
while atmospherically terrorforming the earth
will you me able to notice the new herbs and vegatation
when monsanto controls the genome
could you de cifer the rate of change
or would your "peers" shame you
in to the corner plex
there is nothing wrong with your feelings
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the casuale traveller thru
this travestyies man tell
wants a few teller tales
set sail and a drift~ one want to know, as it
could it be, has it come to pass
the elimi nation of thee
deep thought
catcher of fish
scinner of flesh
rider of waves
thinker of thoughts
could it be YOU
spared you might believe
the not see eternity came and took it away
so nothing is left to takle
the prize walked before you awoke
shimmering upon the dawn
never a question

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the sailor left the bearth a cast anchor, to the wind
left behind was deciept, from the land he was intured in
he sailed upon a greatly modified plaine
ever to return and speak again
and this he said
never be afraid~ for this is what they are
betting upon
be always honest, and if you do not know
state that you dont know
he asked me to always treasure the gifts i have been given
and to use them as best i can
defeat, he said was never closer than tomorrows victory
but i never under stood
spliced and diced and inundated way layed
and prostituted un to a system
sin less from that but held personally unto a code
honest as the freaking trail is long
breakers pry and homely security wags its patute
but seriously crazy souls believe
did scientists crEate this world
or was there a Creator
perhaps this post was an accident
it is sad that i have to post this again
but i must
"A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
--- President John F. Kennedy, in remarks made on the 20th anniversary of the Voice of America at H.E.W. Auditorium, February 26, 1962
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
--- President John F. Kennedy
i suppose it would be worse if i quoted isenhaure?


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and then he turned to us
and spoke a most mysterious sound tone
to hold your power dry as this tyme pass
for this is but a test
and the dry feet will come next
speeking through a crazy tome
colors the message home
much grator the next
text
and as the feeling melted away
and all returned to asphalt reality
with US/USSR/UN insignia
painting across the sky
i wept
and found my scinentces cleared
alumino barium tears
with no permit issued
and only laughter at cReationS
great inspiration

taught~ against the knowledge
blowing counter to the rudder and sail set
petroleum a "compost of dinosaur and fern"
and carbon sulfur
sreak across the sky
one world odrs
unfaithfull rob a planet to
go one to another one
EARTH FIRST
we rape the other ones later
we ac"know"ledge your young
mis educate your learned
worship a cold blood
and suicide the warm within you

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across the background
and upon its face
a nationality of deciept
creapt / creeped/ ?
newspapers crammed full
will martha meet gayia in prison
will my dog marry my cat

but not a word in the paper about
Climatik Destruction Overhead

oh i read it backwards
and forwards
but it was not there to read
Haitti was over thrown
and i guess Iraq was just swell
Dubell Ule and Kerry are just about the same
but "we" will fight and "Challenge"
the pathetic "difference"
between

oh we will separate ourselves allright
for these "two "men" "
are so different

one will give power to un human
and the "other one" will give power
to the human un

but the sprays will remain

a little more "biosphere" here
a little more "drilling" there

your butt will be sore

no matter who loses

for we have "no choise" in leader ship
"them Have elected the puppets to "run"
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sunday evenings sir men from the "giggleplex transformational unity"
to the church of "i saw a plane spray once"


A man and his dog were walking along a road. The man was enjoying the scenery, when
it suddenly occurred to him that he was dead.


He remembered dying, and that the dog walking beside him had been dead for years. He
wondered where the road was leading them.


After a while, they came to a high, white stone wall along one side of the road.


It looked like fine marble. At the top of a long hill, it was broken by a tall arch
that glowed in the sunlight. When he was standing before it he saw a magnificent
gate in the arch that looked like Mother of Pearl, and the street that led to the
gate looked like pure gold.


He and the dog walked toward the gate, and as he got closer, he saw a man at a desk
to one side.


When he was close enough, he called out, "Excuse me, where are we?"


"This is Heaven, sir," the man answered.


"Wow! Would you happen to have some water?" the man asked.


"Of course, sir. Come right in, and I'll have some iced water brought right up."


The man gestured, and the gate began to open. "Can my friend," gesturing toward his
dog, "come in too?" the traveler asked.


"I'm sorry, sir, but we don't accept pets."


The man thought a moment and then turned back toward the road and continued the way
he had been going with his dog.


After another long walk, and at the top of another long hill, he came to a dirt road
which led through a farm gate that looked as if it had never been closed. There was
no fence.


As he approached the gate, he saw a man inside, leaning against a tree and reading a
book.


"Excuse me!" he called to the reader. "Do you have any water?"


"Yeah, sure, there's a pump over there".


The man pointed to a place that couldn't be seen from outside the gate.


"Come on in."


"How about my friend here?" the traveler gestured to the dog.


"There should be a bowl by the pump."


They went through the gate and sure enough, there was an old fashioned hand pump
with a bowl beside it. The traveler filled the bowl and took a long drink himself,
then he gave some to the dog. When they were full, he and the dog walked back toward
the man who was standing by the tree waiting for them.20


"What do you call this place?" the traveler asked.


"This is Heaven," was the answer.

"Well, that's confusing," the traveler said. "The man down the road said that was
Heaven, too."

"Oh, you mean the place with the gold street and pearly gates? Nope. That's Hell."

"Doesn't it make you mad for them to use heaven's name like that?"

"No. I can see how you might think so, but we're just happy that they screen out the
folks who'll leave their best friends behind."


Soooo...


Sometimes, we wonder why friends keep forwarding jokes to us without writing a word,
maybe this could explain: When you are very busy, but still want to keep in touch,
guess what you do?


You forward jokes.


When you have nothing to say, but still want to keep contact, you forward jokes.


When you have something to say, but don't know what, and don't know how, you forward
jokes.


And to let you know that you are still remembered, you are still important, you are
still loved, you are still cared for, guess what you get? A forwarded joke.


So my friend, next time if you get a joke, don't think that you've been sent just
another forwarded joke, but that you've been thought of today and your friend on the
other end of your computer wanted to send you a smile

as "little" or as great
your momment in time may seem
there but by the Grace of God do you draw your Breath
no one promiced you anything
you are here upon
a hope and a prayer
and that "sparky" is your challenge

mumbillin complaints will not be heard
by anyone, you have to SHOUT
to be heard over the "Ruckoise Society"/ chainie et all
(look them up)do the search
think they are on your side?
hardly
what is the difference between julia butterfly and WhereHauser?
the error and the air farse?
a snowmobile and a motel on wheels pulling a SUV down the asphault social sequrity highway?
but i di gress
In otter nudes Michael Jacskton wed Martha Steward
in a same sex union some have said will put the
prisoners of the nude word oder
into riotplex~anouse state
the late ed sullivan said it was a very good show, and most noded off line
the problem ion remained
that thorn in the side with the big mouth
twinke toes with a wink and a smile infected
yeah YOU
did i ever tell you about the 1912 flu?
or how about the one where haulibututon retrofits everyones nucelear cabability?
oh did i say everyones?
sorry china, your cherry blossum is still there?
and Guantanamo (hailitosis as well)
seriavo a;lso



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the orbs surround sound final ly link
magoires salute and otters fink outdeep in the confines of the
"those" "chosen" ill umi nauaghty ill etee
came one so different
shudder the windows the light so bright
so fast it came, unprepared
many studied its arrival

glistened

it stood alone upon the dawn
no weapon could target it

it spoke that you might live
and an naught sees shuddered in fear

it blead that you could have a chance
as you are so near the fire
you can feel it's heat
comeing home you think you can

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as fast as grant writers could
know one can see the speed of love
the love of life overcomes the numb reality of
those that see the limited sphere CO2
for never again will life limit itself
to confine

they came they take they kill
we smile we give we forgive

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LOVE the weapon satanincs never comprehends
it cost nothing to arm

freedom given taken
life spliced here and there

so little given back
yet it grows more
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outside the rhelms of common thought a solut ion resides
breaking in where lies
scum skies and total sin
debt deciet and poly tiks

grinso bright it came
no one could
permiating everything
we pretend all is well
and go to sleep yet
never rested we "awake" again

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