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Orwell knew
Joined: 21 May 2004
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How about a little wager?
 Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:24 am
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Hi All,
Most of us realize the information acknowledging "chemtrail" programs will forever remain out of reach of the public until either:
A- Officials involved with the programs come forward on a more "open" footing than say, 'Deep Shield' or etc...
B- Those who KNOW full well the extent of the programs FINALLY put their money where their mouths/lungs/ throats..etc. are and fund a simple air sampling. Though some have 'talked' of this before, why in god's name has noone been willing to act on something so easy and not really all that expensive. Why hasn't some News Organization paid the 5K or less it would cost to do a REAL sampling? Just think if YOU were the News ORg that had EXCLUSIVE test results of chemtrail polymer clouds or aluminum or barium or titanium levels HUNDREDs or THOUSANDS or perhaps MILLIONS of times the normal level. What would have to be done would be of course the chemtrail itself sampled probably within 0.5 hrs or so from dispersal to get a really really high content reading. That is of course  if there really is anything ENHANCED on these aerosol releases.
How about a legal "bet" between the "bunkies" and the Researchers  where the cost of the sampling is paid for by the "loser" where a certain criteria is agreed upon and then it is or isn't met? Sound fun? Cold this be down legally, Loser pays? Maybe Jay Reynolds and his bunkie pals would want to bet? Eh?
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willbee
Joined: 07 Jun 2004
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Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:24 pm
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I will tell you why! I havn't hit the lotto yet thats why. Your talking major bucks there friend. Jafo... |
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Orwell knew
Joined: 21 May 2004
Posts: 475
Location: Mid-Missouri |
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Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:23 am
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Hey wilbee,
I work in environmental testing among other things and contrary to "popular opinion" taking several preliminary samplings wouldn't need to cost alot at all. We've been all through this (on this board) but the twist I added was that the "loser"(s) would pay in a legal bet that would hold the party financially responsible depending upon what pre-agreed criteria was or wasn't met.
In fact if Rense or someone like that would offer the bet and put up a little cash (maybe from contributers) we all might be able to more conclusively say whether or not these aerosol releases contain anything more than increased carbon etc. Preaching to the choir and passers by has merits, but going right to the heart of the matter would sure be interesting. IMO.
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halva
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 513
Location: Greece |
| How about a little wager
Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:45 am
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SmT, apart from this idea of yours, if you are interested in taking part in a closed forum discussing other initiatives, I have been trying to invite you (as a former Arianna participant - the discussion there became unviable as open discussion) for some weeks now, but with your non-functioning e-mail addresses you are a little hard to find. If interested e-mail me or PM me. |
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zeusgrizzly
Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 4
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| bush /carlyle eugenics agenda
Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:58 am
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I began paying attention to chemtrails in 1999. Some of our local pilots were really creative and formed anarchy symbols in our skies.
With 9/11, my chemtrail took a different twist and I would like to share my findings:
One: 9/11 the whitehouse staff began taking cipro a full month before anthrax attacks began
two: more than a dozen microbiologists found dead under very weird circumstances. In researching (thanks rense for base list) I found they had all worked for either dugway/ft.derrick or hughes institute at some point in their career. All used a software program called (promis) and heres where the chemtrails could come in..genetic profiling and dna sequencing were projects they were working on. Bush and family are strong believers in eugenics and marvin bush had security contracts with Ft.Derrick , los alamos, dugway (where chemtrails were tested extensively in 1950's). He also did security for WTC.
Anyway carlyle group has been buying drug companies and owns evil monsanto. Making global domination possible on two fronts..food chain with their genetically altered seed. (use chemtrails to wipe out crops.) Or control drug prices and supply of drugs for germs and diseases they purposely release via chemtrails. Double whammy gets my vote. thanks for listening. PS: Not sure how this fits in but bin laden has a copy of the promis software also and worked for british intelligence |
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zeusgrizzly
Joined: 16 Jul 2004
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| declassified military documents
Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:20 pm
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Hi: Some chemtrail info is not out of our reach..two chemtrail classified operations have been declassified....operation cloverleaf and operation gray skies. The info would be too techie for me, but I incourage you that could understand it to go for it. They are operations specific to chemtrails to my understanding |
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DvdGStwrt
Joined: 26 Nov 2002
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Location: Modesto, CA USA |
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Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:12 pm
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Here is the real problem. Many have done tests of the ground level air - The tests reveal barium, aluminum, etc. etc. etc.
The problem is that by the time any chemicals in the upper atmosphere settle down they can be attributed to ground level pollutants. What is found is explained away easily enough, we are told that it is ground level pollution, that the test area was too close to a factory, to close to a car, to close to the city - the numbers are said to be nominal and comes with the area.
Which in truth we may find that ground level atmospheric pollutant are high, and we also find that contamination of the atmosphere here close to the ground where we live and breath is such to muddle the tests. So we have to go up, thats a problem.
Yes, the tests themselves are cheap. The problem is getting a sample from above - preferably from behind one of those spraying planes.
That leads to some interesting problems. Have you Checked FAA rules for flying? It appears that following a plane close enough to get the purest sample of what ever it is leaving behind in its wake would be considered a Terrorist Threat and your likely to get your butt shot down. ---> A side bar on that is just how coincidental it is that the Terrorists choose jet air liners to do their 9-11 event for us, thus any and all non-professional contact with Jets, FAA flight Regulations, etc are so strict that the general man on the street can't check out the jets, the spray, etc. <---- It also appears that you have to put in a flight plan, thus if you are lucky enough to guess where a spraying plan will be at at the time your flight plan brings you tot hat point you might get a good sample.
Even if you can get a plane up there, you have to have a plane with a collector - not too inexpensive, most are owned by NASA, JPL, Military and government owned and operated research labs. Interesting how that works out too.
Air testing is regulated and done through what else, Government labs - Labs who are controlled and must meet specific guidelines as set by the Federal Government (Here in the USA)
So no, it is not easy, it is not cheap and above all else recent history has made it near impossible to get at that kind of information.
Ain't coincidence a wonderful thing?
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DvdGStwrt
Joined: 26 Nov 2002
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Location: Modesto, CA USA |
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Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:17 pm
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Mind at least this is the problem in the USA - I am assuming that other nations have as strict, if not stricter, guidelines when it comes to planes.
David |
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