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cydoniaquest
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Regarding getting well: If you are drinking fluoridated tap water, I suggest it's time to stop as this could be one of the causes of your illness and lack of mental flexibility. This is the most helpful advice that I can give YOU (seriously), unless of course you believe this practice is also for our own good
This is a cruel thing to say N4wind. I think you're making mountains out of molehills when it comes to your interpretation of what Goldrush is saying. Read again what she said:
"Thermit? Have you checked my area, in the times suggested? The traffic patterns, seem very consistent to me, when the contrails are visible. Even consistent when they are dissipating ones. I thank you for you interest. The weather here has been variable day to day. Tomorrow may be too cloudy to check for trails. I do think much of it is commercial, scheduled traffic."
Notice that there is nothing impolite in this statement.....yet you come back with an attack. She is a pilot and in a position to know normal traffic patterns and separate them from abnormal. She says that she thinks much of it is normal schedualed traffic. Notice that "much" does not mean all. How can you find anything about this statement that is unreasonable, or offensive. Are you so thin skinned that you feel you must attack anyone who varies slightly from your belief system!
By the way, I've driven through Benicia many times, and the air there is filled with the smell of oil refining (which is much needed in this state) but still, if anyone is to get sick from the drinking water, it would likely be you.
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Thermit
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Sat Mar 03, 2001 3:37 am
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Goldrush, no I haven't done so yet, busy with research and the things of life, but I'll check it out. I'm sure you are right though. However, it won't answer the issue of the unidentifiable planes on Flight Explorer that are responsible for creating cirrus aviaticus here in Houston. |
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n4wind
Joined: 05 Feb 2001
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Sun Mar 04, 2001 7:40 pm
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I agree, that is hideous writing on my part. Don’t know what happened (remember, I just got sprayed).
Please forgive me for having a difficult time walking outside with two boys, aged 2 and 4, looking up and seeing another assault on my well-being then losing my patience with somebody who’s own mind isn’t satisfied enough to acknowledge that we have a problem that is in need of immediate attention.
Do I have a thin skin? No, just worn. It’s a matter of patience. Chemtrail spraying is just another one of many intrusions to our freedoms and general health (and longevity), added to the current list which includes fluoride (poison) in our water, microwave and electro-magnetic radiation (cell phones and television), radar waves (airports, scanners, home sensing devices, military secret installations), HAARP, bad tissue in our vaccines, mad cow disease (now in everything from sugar to medicines), aids (AZT and “cocktails” are killing us (read Peter Duesberg, “Inventing the Aids Virus”)), MK ultra (mind control has been around since the 40’s and is definitely here now), car exhaust (vanadium, ammonia gas, benzene and MTBE), depleted uranium weapons (now having been dropped in three different regions by the UN), unbridled nuclear proliferation, nutri-sweet/aspertame, MSG, milk and beef hormones, pesticides and currently the worst one of all (happening right under our nose and claiming more lives than anything else) chemotherapy radiation ( I know of three cures for cancer, all of which have been brought to the FDA/AMA and mythodically destroyed (let me know if you desire one and I’d be happy to forward and direct)).
I’d be happy to supply information regarding any one of these “assaults” listed above, but debate the method of verification? Give me a break. There isn’t time for this any longer.
We have to realize that we ARE affected. But it is our seniors who are both affected by these and have “missed” them totally. Their trust has resulted in our liberties being assaulted to the point that few can possibly even begin to believe the extent of any single one of them. So they are no longer credible visionaries of our future. The denial has gone on too long. The current teaching of securing more for their children (reaganomics) has only resulted in the guaranteed destruction of this planet’s life support. To continue on, questioning moot points while assuming that tomorrow will offer the same kind of living is madness.
I’m not sure if "they" are screwing with our climate, spreading a disease (to be triggered later), poisoning our food supply or destroying the orgone energy (read Wilhelm Reich for explanation of orgone). But the world’s food supply has already been dealt a mortal blow, one that will effect every man, woman and child on this planet whether they live in Tibet or San Jose. We need to start thinking about a lot things more than flight explorer 2. We could be days away from 100 new "Kosovo's".
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cydoniaquest
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Sun Mar 04, 2001 9:03 pm
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I appreciate your reply N4wind,.....many people might have responded with continued assault, but you basically apologized to GoldRush and that shows real class!
I do share your concerns with the poisons and diseases we now find in our everyday lives, because they do affect us all. (I’m surprised that the average life span continues to increase). Whether these things that kill us are introduced by design or by carelessness is up for debate though, but one thing seems evident, we are a suicidal race.
I am of the mind-set that AIDs and Ebola were intentionally introduced, to targeted populations. The jury is still out for me on "Mad Cow" whether that was intentional or not, but one thing is certain; it is propagated through stupidity, when we continue to feed livestock with feed that contains ground up animals possibly containing the same disease. If you're a beef eater, maybe looking for "corn fed" on the label might help. I’ve become a bit of a vegetarian myself since the news of mad cow.
As a pilot, I've known about the perils of aspartame for over ten years now, because it was recommended by the FAA that pilots avoid it....(so you know that government does realize its negative affects). I do believe that aspartame is an example of corporations profiting at the expense of humanity. They’ve known the negative effects since perhaps the beginning of its production. If I drink the stuff in coffee, I get an instant headache....so I know that it is not just hype that the stuff is dangerous. I've pleaded with my mother to stop using it, and gave her the statistics and she's since stopped.
As for the carbon emissions poisoning our air, hey I know all about that. As a truck driver I slept in a polluted truck stop so thick with diesel smoke you could cut it with a knife, on many occasions. If I opened the window in the sleeper cab, often some other truck would belch smoke into my bunk while I slept....because his smoke stacks happened to be aligned with the window (I often wonder why I'm not dead from carbon monoxide poisoning!).
I've long been a proponent of alternative energies. I think right now, with slight, relatively inexpensive modifications to current vehicles we could burn ethanol. Now I'm not talking about "gasohol" which is a hybrid fuel composed of gasoline mixed with ethyl alcohol, I'm talking about pure ethyl alcohol....or at least 180 proof. Ethyl alcohol burning engines have the same power output as gasoline...with slightly less range (because greater volumes of fuel is required). The by-product of combustion is water vapor. It can be made from waste products like wood pulp with enzyme technology improving all the time. But mostly it is made from corn which seems to be most efficient at yielding the most ethanol per bushel. The only by-product of combustion is water vapor, and, in addition, it keeps American farmers in business and ends our dependence of foreign oil. The established oligarchies know this and will fight to prevent the marketing of ethyl alcohol powered cars. So I agree that we could clean up this place, if we wanted to. I've got some personal ideas about how to do this from the private sector. We need to forget about government and get them off our backs to do it though.
That's why, after all this agreeing, I have to take you to task with your Reaganomics statement. You probably know what I think....but let me ask you: Why in the world would you think supply-side economics is a bad thing? Reagan's goal was to limit the size and scope of the federal government. Why would anyone be against this, given what we know about how government wastes money, and seeks absolute power? By providing tax cuts (with a democratic majority in congress), Reagan demonstrated for all to see that tax cuts boost the economy. When a business owner (small or large) gets a tax cut, he/she is able to hire more employees, or increase employee wages, so that maybe one day, one of those employees might be able to save enough money to start a business of their own. A tax cut gives the average Joe more money to spend on whatever he wants. If he goes out and buys a set of new tires with the money he saves, he brings more business to the tire company, which then can expand and produce more product, and employ more people. A tax cut boosts the economy in a thousand different ways no question about it.
How in the world could you say that Reaganomics is damaging to the planet's life support??!! (I wouldn’t be a respectable conservative, if I didn’t get this question in). 
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n4wind
Joined: 05 Feb 2001
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Wed Mar 07, 2001 1:52 am
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How is it damaging to the planet's life support? Reaganomics may not be the best way to describe what I'm trying to convey. I mean to refer to our present way of doing things, such as bigger is better, only in this case it's "Americans have the right to get rewarded for honest hard work and ingenuity" and that's great, but it's where we latch onto this belief that we can both expand materially (bigger houses, cars, boats, stomping grounds, etc.) AND increase our population at the same time, that I'm saying we have a major problem. It's a mathematical certainty, that as we consume more while at the same time growing in numbers that our eco system will overload. Heck, it already has in so many areas of the world: Africa, India, Pakistan, China, Middle East.
I liked Reagan. It felt good going from Carter's "malaise" speech (we need to consume less) to a better deal for our current condition. Never the less, considering the connections of both of these people to groups such as Trilateral, Bildeburg, Council of Foreign Affairs, Bohemia Club, and others which I'm too lazy to look up right now, neither one of them are the answer to what earth-substained humanity needs. Clearly, sitting in our new BmW commute cars for hours of our day, breathing exhaust gases, while our engines burn untold quantities of hydrocarbons just sitting in one place, is an ecological zero. Anyone could have planned it better than that, unless they wanted this condition to come upon us in the first place, that is.
Perhaps it's time to move this discussion to another topic. Anyway, it's good to see you're watching and thinking, something I am endeavoring to do myself. |
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