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n4wind
Joined: 05 Feb 2001
Posts: 11
Location: Benicia, CA USA |
San Francisco Bay Area, anyone else notice?
 Thu Feb 15, 2001 8:14 pm
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We are getting a pattern of contrails that start together, end together and hang in the sky (as they drift toward Sacramento). Right now, Feb 15th at 10 AM, they just layed down a new one right over my head.
I watched the aircraft making a chemtrail line alongside another one, and I watched until it stopped (coming from the aircraft), and I watched the aircraft stream on with no chemtrail behind.
They are laying them down in patterns in two areas, one is over Napa county and the other looks to be over San Francisco itself.
I have also observed similar patterns here on Feb 1, 3, 4, and 5th. It had been rainy since this period (con to the weather modification theory) until a few days ago.
Does anyone else out here see what I am seeing? |
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Thu Feb 15, 2001 9:51 pm
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n4Wind, Hello and yes I have been seening this in my area.(lake Co)
I think you and I are seening the same thing.
They lay long or short trails along side or on top of each other, starting and ending about the same place.
And yes you are right about the destination. Sacramento Valley. From my vantage point I watch this stuff being formed, spread out and begin to drift.
Yesterday, I had to travel to the Napa valley and watched as they laid down some pretty nasty stuff. As I crested Mt. Saint Helena and looked into the Napa Valley it was a horrible sight. If I did not have to go there I would have gone back home.
The entire valley had a "wavey", very light covering of white mist at about 4000 ft el.
On the lower elevations coming down to the valley floor was a yellow,brown thick haze.
The air from Calistoga to Napa and over to Fairfield had a chemical smell to it. Not until late last night when I crested the mountain on the way home, did the smell go away. Today, the windshield of my car has a light oil sheen to it.
And the activity continues today. It started at daylight and by 10 am pdt, the entire sky is covered. And now a storm front has moved in and pushed the mess to the east. And I can guarantee that as this front passes, right behind it will be more chemtrails already formed and spread out.
This is getting to be one of two or three patterns being used over this area on a consistant basis.
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Sore Throat
Joined: 01 Sep 2000
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Fri Feb 16, 2001 3:26 am
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My office in the East Bay has a 180 degreee view to the north, including the East Bay Hills. I've been here for years and I'm quite familiar with the sky. When I became aware of ChemTrails in the Spring of 1999, I frequently reported particularly egregious spray days. There are others in the Bay Area who have done the same...Anne from Napa, Wise Woman from the South Bay. After a while you begin to sound like a broken record to keep saying, "they're doing it again". Even on days when atmospheric soundings are totally inconsistent with the production of persistent trails, the debunkers would either hide under a rock, or go into great contortions to explain how it "could" happen, how it all "could" be normal.
Thank Thermit that we are now spared such groundless, mindless pabulum, and blatant disinformation.
And yes, what you are seeing is what we have been reporting as ChemTrails for the past two years. Welcome to the new world order.
Tell a friend.
Show a friend. |
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n4wind
Joined: 05 Feb 2001
Posts: 11
Location: Benicia, CA USA |
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Fri Feb 16, 2001 7:13 pm
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Thank you David and Sore Throat as it is good to at least know that there are a few people out here who are watching the skies overhead. You both, too, sound educated with regard to what our government has done in the past, is capable of doing at any time now, and has planned for "us" as we move closer to globalization and planet populaton/resources/food overload.
Then again, it is most dismaying to see such little response (I mean how few people take the time to think about what they have and what has happened right in front of their eyes. We appear to be the most brainwashed society in the history of mankind. It's good to hear that a few of us are still thinking properly.
Today, at 8:30 AM (when I first got a chance to check the skies) I was dismayed to see that they are at it again. And, it looks like they started early for there are streaks in three different areas and they are indeed extensive. Note: I didn't see these actually being made, but I did see two being made in the same vicinity and they are at it right now as I type.
Was wondering if any of you have suffered any symptoms from the spray? So far, the only thing bothering me or my kids is itchy eyes (I've got them big time today). I do realize this could just be allergies.
Also, have any of you tried using any air filtration equipment in your homes or businesses. Here at my home I use an ozone generator.
Questions remain: Will California suffer the worst drought in 50 years? Will people begin to flood the local hospitals? I'll try to post anything pertinent that I can find or observe.
Anybody considering moving? (Where to?)
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Anne
Joined: 04 Feb 2001
Posts: 123
Location: Napa, CA USA |
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Sat Feb 17, 2001 7:57 am
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I believe there is no place to go to hide from what our government is doing in our skies. I believe the spraying occurs over our area due to the jet stream. Watch the satellite pictures when you hear of a storm coming in. Today in Napa the spraying started in the east and as the day progressed
there were huge Xs in our sky and then lines to fill in those blue areas. In almost three years that I have been watching this there has been spraying before, after, and on top or into storm fronts. Just because we see clouds that look normal, watch as the clouds part and there usually will be spraying that occurs.
There has been so many people that I know affected with this so called virus that the doctors office is filled. My husband has been ill for over two weeks and kids in the schools are affected too. My son in LA area said all the kids in his college have this virus too. It isn't the flu, but what and where is it coming from.
I try to not to work outside during heavy spray days and try to keep my immune system up with vitamins, colloid silver, etc. Wisewoman has been helpful with assisting us with herbals.
I am happy when this stuff does not stay in Napa Valley and the winds are blowing. |
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n4wind
Joined: 05 Feb 2001
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Location: Benicia, CA USA |
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Mon Feb 26, 2001 8:22 pm
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It's been raining for about one week with today bringing a morning of clear blue skies (I wish). They're at it again (crap!).
At 8 am I looked across the horizon and saw the most concentrated spray patterns yet. They appeared to be over Suisun or Fairfield. Interestingly, this would make them almost directly over the Travis Air Forc Base. I wonder if any of these airmen notice and what they are thinking. It can't go unnoticed by them (can it?).
Also had an unnusual sighting of a chemtrail jet going into an existing chemtrail. Now listen closely (since you won't believe me): the existing chemtrail (which was now quite wide) was being parted ahead of the plane. That's what I said! At a distance of approximately 50 plane-lengths there was a clear path IN FRONT OF WHERE THE JET WAS FLYING TOWARD! It was a narrow path, about the width of a new chemtrail and it continued to form, maintaining a leading edge at about the same distance of 50 plane-lengths or so.
I have read about black lines preceeding chemtrail planes (from Rense.com) but this was blue. By the way, when the plane made a turn the leading edge of the "fore trail" stopped advancing, and the plane turned out of it (back into chemtrail and proceeded).
Moses parted the Red Sea. Chemtrail planes can apparently part their own debri! |
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goldrush
Joined: 04 Sep 2000
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Location: No, Calif. USA |
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Tue Feb 27, 2001 5:24 am
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Please do not take this as debunking... but as unstable as weather has been in the last 48+ hours, landing patterns change as wind direction changes, therefore incoming aircraft have to maintain altitudes holding to await their turn to land. The west coast has the burden of not only holding to its' own weather changes, but also the overdue flights which come in from the eastern part of the country, as the day wears on. Thermit, could you check into flight explorer to verify if what I understand from airline pilots, to be true? Private commercial pilots that I know, do verify the traffic buildup which occurs here, at peak times, morning 7am to 9am, and evening, 4pm to 6pm. If anyone finds blood falling contrails, independently, from the experiment of carnicom, I hope they would report their findings, more widely, and how they were collected. I still did not see how he connected his report to a contrail which produced it?! Do you know more about it? Is anyone trying to reproduce the same outcome, from actual collections from the altitudes which the contrails we see, occur? |
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
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Location: SW coast of Oregon |
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Tue Feb 27, 2001 5:42 am
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goldrush
Joined: 04 Sep 2000
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Location: No, Calif. USA |
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Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:49 am
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I never understood why Marksky takes offense at some very honest questions, offered. Please enlist yourself into the collection sampling equipment used. If that is not enough, do aquaint yourself with some pilots who would satisfy your curiosity with at least a couple of flights. I think, that what is offered is still not altitude borne sampling, of aircraft originated material. Does not conjecture stem from a point of origination? Believers/nonbelievers can at least form some firm idea from what they can observe from each owns' area of concrete, substance borne experience, extended to laboratory verification. The sky is the limit, as far as getting source borne samples, of what wants to be analysed by whom, and how far they wish to go to verify the chain of handling, in the process. Illness does not only come from the sky. I do know that. I can't wait to read Markskys further slams of my concepts.... My family has noticed some brilliant sundogs, in morning and late afternoons, while the Alaskan north winds were blowing over the light cirrus, between rains, in the previous weeks! Sacramento area...... |
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Tue Feb 27, 2001 8:04 pm
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Goldrush,
I have no doubts about the traffic build-ups you mention. Which areas were you suggesting for examination? And what is your theory exactly with regards to this?
Hope you are feeling well. |
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goldrush
Joined: 04 Sep 2000
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Location: No, Calif. USA |
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Wed Feb 28, 2001 7:45 am
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Thermit, Look at the N. Califoria area which is being discussed. Sacramento, Bay Area, etc. Look at it in the time periods between 6am to 9am and 4pm and 6pmPST on flight explorer. You would have to look on Nodebunkers board to see what my theory is. I fear that many people are being manipulated by a jestful game (Majestic). Cruel, but possible. |
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sedona
Joined: 13 Oct 2000
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Wed Feb 28, 2001 8:47 am
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Mark "takes offense at simple honest questions"...? Not yet he hasn't. Your questions are neither simple nor honest, and obviously neither are you. But of course you won't let an outbreak of group nausea caused by your same old over-engineered backroom song and dance stop you from unwinding the broken record. By all means, start up this endless meaninglessness all over again- and bring your friends along too. We can all rewind to two years ago and replay the entire story. Certainly none of us have anything better to do than descend back into this level of mindjerky. If there's one thing the chemtrail investigation needs most, it's more disingenuous hypocritical "check your flight explorer a few hundred more times" debunkers. Pleased to meet you- I already guessed your name. |
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goldrush
Joined: 04 Sep 2000
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Location: No, Calif. USA |
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Wed Feb 28, 2001 9:07 am
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My reply was only focused to thermit. I am sorry that my perceptions disturb you, Sedona. I have long been a target in "poem" and words, which are meant to be offensive. Try to understand that, I too, love looking at the sky, and observing the same things you see, but I do not dismiss information which adds to the whole picture. Curiosity, is what keeps me interested in seeing if there is more to understand beyond any script. I think that all who persist in learning, will eventually meet at some point where there is some agreement upon concrete facts. My opinions, are just that, just as yours are. Peace and persistence to you. |
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goldrush
Joined: 04 Sep 2000
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Location: No, Calif. USA |
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Fri Mar 02, 2001 8:42 am
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Thermit? Have you checked my area, in the times suggested? The traffic patterns, seem very consistent to me, when the contrails are visible. Even consistent when they are dissipating ones. I thank you for you interest. The weather here has been variable day to day. Tomorrow may be too cloudy to check for trails. I do think much of it is commercial, scheduled traffic. |
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n4wind
Joined: 05 Feb 2001
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Location: Benicia, CA USA |
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Sat Mar 03, 2001 2:39 am
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What you are suggesting (goldrush) is enough to give me nausea. Since when do commercial pilots conduct barnstorming maneuvers directly over an air base or airport? This is where flights originate and terminate, not a collection point for aerial acrobatics and exhibitionists as you suggest.
What I described is a grid pattern being layed down, not a few trails from planes leaving, turning or approaching. Now just how do you get a grid pattern over a 10 x 10 mile square area? Are you saying that it is accidental that this pattern occured from normal comings, goings, and pattern holding (generally done in large circles)? The odds of this are zero, pure and simple.
Not to mention that the chemtrails don't dissipate for hours, meanwhile commercial jets are flying in the same vicinity leaving little or no trails. I also observe the chemtrail planes have the ability to abrubtly stop the formation of a contrail/chemtrail.
Regarding getting well: If you are drinking fluoridated tap water, I suggest it's time to stop as this could be one of the causes of your illness and lack of mental flexibility. This is the most helpful advice that I can give YOU (seriously), unless of course you believe this practice is also for our own good.
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