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'Free Press' News Embargo - 'Flu' Mortality

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Sore Throat





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'Free Press' News Embargo - 'Flu' Mortality PostSat Apr 06, 2002 7:56 pm  Reply with quote  

The CDC reports hitting epidemic levels of mortality for several weeks, and the highest in recent years with the exception of the disasterous 1999-2000 "flu" season"

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/flu/weeklyarchives/bigpi12.htm

What is interesting about this? Do a news search on AP/Reuters, Yahoo News, or any other search engine and see if you can find ONE SINGLE NEWS ARTCLE reporting this situation.

This is as close as I could come to any form of flu mortality news:

"Afghan Influenza Outbreak Killed 60 Children -WHO"
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020315/hl_nm/afghan_flu_2

Afghanistan! But find ANYTHING about the US.


I don't know about where you live, but many people I know are sick and are having a difficult time recovering. The long-tern nurse at the doctor's office said, "There's something really terrible going around" and another local doctor said to me, "The usual prognosis of recovering in 7-10 days no longer holds true. This lasts for weeks."

Once again I ask, why NO PRESS COVERAGE on this condition?

The "FREE PRESS".

As the tag line on the NY Times states, "All The News That's Fit To Print".

What a joke!

[Edited 3 times, lastly by Sore Throat on 04-06-2002]
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herbivore





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PostSat Apr 06, 2002 10:08 pm  Reply with quote  


Dinsmore, Herman H. - ALL THE NEWS THAT FITS: A CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE NEWS AND EDITORIAL CONTENT OF THE NEW YORK TIMES, New Rochelle, NY 1970

You can look for a used copy. A good read.

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Dan Rockwell





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PostSun Apr 07, 2002 7:01 am  Reply with quote  

SoreThroat, I am trying to track down information about a flu epidemic in Manilla and also in Afganistan in 2001 that was believed to have been purposely started. Not sure how bad it was, but a number of people died from it. The Afgan epidemic was reported in March of 2001 and the Manilla epidemic was in October of 2001. I some mentions of it but, the reports aren't in english so I have to ty to trace down the english text versions of the reports, but the local authorities as well as the asian WHO believed that the flu bug was purposely released.
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Dan Rockwell





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PostSun Apr 07, 2002 7:43 am  Reply with quote  

I found the briefs concerning the flu outbreak in Manilla, but could only find the second story archieved but not in English. I had trouble trying to access the abs-cbnnews site and will try again later to see if I can find the first report there.


WHO: Flu outbreak possibly deliberate 10-04-01 (abs-cbnnews.com) An official of the World Health Organization (WHO) on Wednesday has not entirely dismissed the possibility of a deliberate act in spreading an Influenza virus that downed thousands of students from several Metro Manila schools Tuesday.

New flu virus eyed in outbreak 10-05-01 (philstar.com) Government health experts are trying find out if the influenza virus that downed students of seven Catholic schools in Metro Manila in recent days could have been caused by a new strain.
http://www.bradynet.com/bbs/em/100040-1335.html
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FLKook





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PostSun Apr 07, 2002 12:57 pm  Reply with quote  

That is some pretty sobering information. Flu epidemics that are started intentionally...what next.

Please keep this thread going. I'm moving it to the Health forum where it seems a better fit in the interest of keeping the board organized.
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FLKook





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PostSun Apr 07, 2002 3:29 pm  Reply with quote  

The following is a link to a 12 page PDF file. I haven't read it all yet but thought I'd share the link anway.

STOCKHOLM INTERNATIONAL PEACE RESEARCH INSTITUTE Stockholm International Peace Research Institute FACT SHEET November 2001 BIOTECHNOLOGY AND THE FUTURE OF THE BIOLOGICAL AND TOXIN WEAPONS CONVENTION Introduction The spectre of the deliberate use of disease in war has long haunted humankind. The biological ...
http://projects.sipri.se/cbw/research/biotechnologyfactsheet.pdf
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Dan Rockwell





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PostSun Apr 07, 2002 7:32 pm  Reply with quote  

Here's some more disturbing information concerning a 1999 outbreak in Afganistan.

Press Release WHO/14
2 March 1999

"INFLUENZA-LIKE" ACUTE RESPIRATORY INFECTION
BEHIND DEADLY AFGHAN OUTBREAK

On their return from Afghanistan, two World Health Organization medical experts said a mysterious disease that has claimed dozens of lives in a remote mountainous area of northern Afghanistan is an "influenza-like" acute respiratory infection.

The high death toll has been caused by secondary bacterial infections which have been made more serious by poor hygiene and nutrition and a lack of antibiotics.

Provisional reports covering two most populous clusters of villages speak of 196 deaths. Overall number of deaths cannot be determined as reports are not available from various other places, some of them simply out of reach due to climatic conditions.
Dr Thomas Grein and Dr Takaaki Ohyama, who travelled to Afghanistan from WHO headquarters in Geneva soon after the first reports of the disease in mid-February, returned to Dushanbe, Tajikistan, last Sunday. They said they had treated 20 patients with an antibiotic –chloramphenicol – which had greatly improved their condition, and that health authorities were informed of this.

Clinical specimens collected by the two doctors are to be analyzed shortly to determine the exact nature of the disease.
The outbreak of an unidentified disease in Darwaz, Badakhstan, in northern Afghanistan, was initially reported to WHO on 13 February. On 26 February, the specialized WHO team arrived by helicopter at one of the affected villages, Jamarche Bala, with the logistical support of the United Nations. Other villages were visited by Médecins sans Frontières and Focus (the Aga Khan Foundation).

The outbreak began in mid-January after two young men returned from the village of Waram, both suffering from an acute respiratory infection. They were housed by the village chief at his place. Over the next two days, about 40 persons living in the same and neighbouring households became ill. The disease then spread through the whole village, affecting 70%-80% of households, with a total population of 5,400. The deaths occurred among both men and women but mostly among infants and the elderly. According to the village chief, the ones who were seriously affected by the disease were "those who had problems with their health before". The most recent case was reported on 26 February.

The disease is influenza-like and characterized by abrupt onset of fever, headaches and muscle pain, followed by chest pain and cough. Living and sanitary conditions are crowded – all persons of a household (approximately 7 to 20) living in one room. Water supply is unprotected. Water is obtained from a creek that runs through the village. People do not wash because of the cold. Nutrition is of poor quality. In wintertime, the local population subsists on a diet of bread and onions. There are no health services in this remote area, which has not been reached by routine immunization teams. The nearest basic health centre is six days by foot in summer.

The preliminary conclusions of the WHO team in the field are that the outbreak, which is now declining, was of an influenza-like illness which has affected a large proportion of this remote and isolated population, possibly not frequently exposed to influenza . The rate of secondary complications, mainly pneumonia, was high. Unusually steep (for influenza) mortality was 1%-2% of the total population, primarily due to bacterial superinfections and unavailability of antibiotics and overall poor living and nutritional conditions.
WHO and its partners on the ground are now helping local authorities to organize follow-up treatment and arranging for additional medical supplies to be delivered to the affected area. http://www.who.int/inf-pr-1999/en/pr99-14.html
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Sore Throat





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PostMon Apr 08, 2002 3:23 am  Reply with quote  

FLKook,

I understand your reasoning for moving this to the "Health" section, but for me the true importance of this is not merely another anecdotal report of respiratory illness, but rather why there has been nothing in the mainstream media, and I mean nothing, despite several weeks of epidemic levels of mortaility from pneumonia and influenza.

This is the issue. Why is there an apparent embargo on such reporting?

How can they say that this is not relevant...not important to the American public?
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FLKook





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PostMon Apr 08, 2002 3:45 am  Reply with quote  

Hi Sore Throat, You are absolutely right of the importance of America to wake up and realize the whole news is not being reported. We are being saturated with propaganda and conditioning and I'm sick of it.

Thank you for understanding the move. We're trying to help Thermit keep the house tidy so to speak. Your point is well taken that the "conspiracy" of silence needs to be explored. Are you suggesting that we take the thread to the "Other Trails" forum?
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Molliani





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PostMon Apr 08, 2002 7:28 am  Reply with quote  

FLKook
I think you're being a bit too tidy by moving this thread to the Health Section.
This thread is not about the flu but about
the suppression of information.

BTW the flu that is going around here
lasts for several weeks - almost goes away then returns with a vengence.
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Dan Rockwell





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PostMon Apr 08, 2002 8:40 am  Reply with quote  

This thread could go either way right now.
There has been nothing really mentioned by the CDC since this report but have to wonder why this information wasn't really publicized too much.

INFLUENZA SUMMARY UPDATE
Week ending March 23, 2002-Week 12 The following information may be quoted:
Synopsis: During week 12 (March 17-23, 2002)*, 211 (19.9%) of 1,058 respiratory specimens tested by World Health Organization (WHO) and National Respiratory Virus Surveillance System (NREVSS) laboratories were positive for influenza. The overall proportion of patient visits to sentinel physicians for influenza-like illness (ILI) was 1.7%, which is below the national baseline of 1.9%. The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza was 8.8%, which is above the epidemic threshold of 8.2% for week 12. Three state and territorial health departments reported widespread influenza activity, 16 reported regional activity, 27 reported sporadic activity, and 2 reported no influenza activity **. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/flu/weekly.htm

They also didn't pay too much attention to the P&I Mortality information located on the same page for some reason.


Pneumonia and Influenza (P&I) Mortality: During week 12, the percentage of all deaths due to pneumonia and influenza as reported by the vital statistics offices of 122 U.S. cities was 8.8%. This percentage is above the epidemic threshold of 8.2% for week 12.


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FLKook





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PostMon Apr 08, 2002 3:23 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
FLKook
I think you're being a bit too tidy by moving this thread to the Health Section.
This thread is not about the flu but about
the suppression of information.


Hi Molliani, that is why I asked if Sore Throat would prefer it in the Other Trails forum. Since Sore Throat started it, I'll leave it to him. My intention is NOT TO BURY THIS THREAD but to catagorize it properly. Don't want anyone to lose it by me moving it around more than once. I private messaged both Sore Throat and Dan Rockwell to let them know where it was placed. It certainly isn't about chemtrails.
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