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Catnip57
Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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 Fri Apr 12, 2002 7:31 am
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Wingedpiper... it's good that you have the necessary patience... guess that's what helps the most in your line of work.. No... I don't think you're crazy..just very determined. I just hope you're able to roll with the punches cause there's likely to be quite a few coming. Don't mean to sound discouraging... it's just that I've been there before.
I've listened to Will Thomas on the radio and some of the things he's said have been astounding...I look forward to his next interview...His last one with Art Bell was very informative and I taped it and plan to loan it to my friends and family so they can learn more about this issue.
Take care... and be safe...  Catnip
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wingedpiper
Joined: 06 Apr 2002
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Location: State College, Pa. |
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Fri Apr 12, 2002 10:53 am
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Hey Catnip,
I agree, the punches are coming. Especially after yesterday.
The sky here was littered with trails yesterday, from first light - and continued on after dark. They haven't stopped spraying us for the last couple of days.
We called the FAA, the woman whoanswered an email I sent to their hotline called me back and was extremely rude and then refused to give me her name, her supervisor's name, and then hung up on me. A Colonel Cleaver of the National Guard, who we were directed to call about CT's, also was very rude and hung up on us...The FAA woman said this to me: "CT's are a military operation, ask the military about that." She also said that "noone in the FAA is going to answer my questions about chemtrails." A confession that they are real? I think so - and right from the horse's mouth...
The military people all said that "nothing is going on in the sky in your area", yet I took 72 pictures yesterday of "nothing".
Hmmm...
Wrote and called my Senator too, and was told if I write a letter and mail it to him, he will make a direct inquiry to the DOD. I wrote it and will mail it today.
Not holding out much hope that it will accomplish anything, though.
I'd be interested in hearing your story some time, about what happened to you, if you ever want to relate that to me. You take care, too. We can't give up, cause if we do, then why live? there is hope as long as there is life. It looks insurmountable -yes, that's very true - but if we don't fight them, then what?
I hate to think of that.
I taped the Art Bell show, too! It was really intense, wasn't it?
I took those tapes downtown to the exec. editor of the newspaper so he could listen, altho I don't know if he did.
I email back and forth with Thomas occasionally. He is a very nice person.
I have a lot of respect for him.
I get up every morning at 3:30 and listen to Art Bell while I am on the computer...hahaha
Are they spraying in your area?
I didn't even ask.
be well and keep safe,
Lisa..
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Catnip57
Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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Location: Central Washington |
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Sat Apr 13, 2002 9:10 am
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Hi Wingedpiper... Sounds like you've certainly been busy.. lots of hang ups on the phone and all...for me that would be so discouraging...I hate rejection...but I knew they were going to do that and worse.
Yes... I'll tell you my story of the infamous jail visit... haha! But.. it's going to have to wait a day or two more since tonight I'm absolutely bushed... something about having domestic conflicts with neighbors does that to a person.
Yes... we've been getting sprayed in my area too... lately it's been on the light side.
I first heard of chemtrails on the Jeff Rense show and thought..."oh this is an interesting subject", but it didn't really concern me too much until the day I walked out of church and watched several planes in the sky laying trail after trail. That was bad enough but then I really got interested when I accidently happend to see the web strands floating down from the air like so much nuclear fallout. That's what made me rethink a few things.
To make a long story short ... over time, on a few occasions I've collected some really nasty looking web samples, which I still need to send to a lab for analysis. Whenever I get the opportunity to introduce new sheople to this issue I show them my samples... they're always amazed by what they see.
Okay, time for me to scoot... next time I'll share my jail story... It's a story about life and death issues too.
Take care and be safe ..... Catnip |
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wingedpiper
Joined: 06 Apr 2002
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Location: State College, Pa. |
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Sat Apr 13, 2002 11:21 am
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CATNIP!!
Part of my letter to the FAA was read on the air by ART Bell on his radio show!
He wants to talk to me on the air about it.
Isn't that wonderful?
Maybe we CAN make a difference.
Keep fingers crossed.
I'm sure the FAA isn't liking me too much right about now.
hehehehehe..I have had neighbor issues too, and I know they suck the big banana...
ugghhh..
can't wait to hear your story.
you be safe too.
Lisa
p.s. I would love to get web samples.
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Sat Apr 13, 2002 3:58 pm
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Part of my letter to the FAA was read on the air by ART Bell on his radio show!
He wants to talk to me on the air about it.
I'm impressed wingedpeper! Yes we can make a difference! You are proving this
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wingedpiper
Joined: 06 Apr 2002
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Location: State College, Pa. |
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Sat Apr 13, 2002 4:15 pm
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Thank you, Lulu, but let's see what happens.
I emailed Art Bell, but haven't yet heard back. The Fox TV guy in florida, Tom buyea, forwarded my letter to about a thousand people, so yes,working together for the common cause really gains ground, evenif in small steps.
I owe him my thanks for doing that. I wrote an article in which I mention chemtrail central, and it should run in Babel Magazine this sunday afternoon, so I hope you all will read it. http://www.babelmagazine.com.
Please spread the word about Babel. We have a terrific and informative New World Order link and lots of information on there, plus other lighter funnier stuff and fiction, etc...But, I have two chemtrails pieces in the next issue coming online on Sunday.
we need to spread the word. Also, onthe Babel Message Board is a link for the chemtrail petition. If any of you haven't signed it, please do.
It is hotlinked, so it will be easy for you to get to it.
Let's continue to work together. We can get stuff done if we just cooperate and hang tight.
let the chips fall where they may.
Lisa Guliani |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:51 pm
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Two thumbs up for Babel Magazine Lisa! I really enjoy the writing...Laughed while reading "My Mother Did What?". A good mix of talented writers...especially enjoy Victor Thorn's writings. The interview with Jimm Marrs was interesting. Saw two pictures of chemtrails (over Happy Valley)...and a very disturbing Marilyn Monroe autopsy picture which looked NOTHING like her...all beat up and all.
I'll be back for more.
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wingedpiper
Joined: 06 Apr 2002
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Location: State College, Pa. |
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Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:38 pm
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Hey Lulu!!
thank you so much!
Victor Thorn would love to hear your feedback himself - why don't you send him an email?
His email is: Sisyphus1285@cs.com - he'd love to hear from you and I guarantee you'll get a reply.
Our new issue is coming online this afternoon. It's another doozy, so don't miss it..If you email him at above address, we'll add you to our newsletter, which is sent out once a week.
Babel seeks to entertain and inform and we love to hear from our readers.
Thanks again, Lulu!!
Lisa |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Mon Apr 15, 2002 5:13 am
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Lisa,
I e-mailed Victor to let him know I think Babel is tops. He's got my vote!
Just read your article in the latest issue (#54) called What William Thomas Has To Say About Chemtrails And A Debunker.
http://www.victorthorn.com/babel/issue54/thomaschemtrails.html
Excellent article.
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This debunker hammered away at me for days through the Babel e-mail inbox. (He is still sending me e-mails, a little man with obviously even less to do, apparently.)
Would this persistent DEBUNKER be none other than Jay Reynolds???
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Debunkers often fall into the behavior of denigrating and smearing the persons whom they feel pose a threat to the "official line" being presented to the public.
Couldn't agree more with this statement Lisa. Says a lot.
BTW, how's the cough? (this is not a Jeremyism)
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wingedpiper
Joined: 06 Apr 2002
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Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:54 pm
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Oh, I see you know our good buddy Jay...
Yes. Actually when I wrote the article, I used his real name, then thought better of it - I don't want to dignifiy him with the attention he so incessantly seeks.
He is on eruthless bastard, if you'll pardon the language.
He got a whole club of people to email me with vicious personal attacks regarding one of my other articles - a lunar conspiracy one.
I mean, for like seven days straight, I was getting some serious hate maile and they posted all the public info they could find out about me on their website, etc...
It increased our hit count, but it made me feel not-so-good, if you know what I mean.
Thank you for emailing Victor (he is my boyfriend) and also for reading Babel.
I appreciate the kind words about my article. I wrote the lead piece, too, also about the chemtrail activity where I live.
Babel is a great mag, lots of interesting stuff we put in there every week -
Yes, Jay Reynolds is a tiny mind with a virtually microscopic repertoire of activities to keep him occupied.
I removed his name so he would be denied the additional attention he so ruthlessly stomps on others to get.
the hell with him. He's a reptile.
keep reading!
Lisa... |
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Catnip57
Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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Location: Central Washington |
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Tue Apr 16, 2002 7:16 am
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Wingepiper.... well the neighbor issues have been smoothed out a bit but the whole event was so stressfull that I've been left with a puzzling case of insomnia which I can't quite attibute entirely to that conflict.
I've been mulling over in my mind what I want to say about my arrest and jailing ...it's been quite a long time ago and I'm thinking that for now it's best if I keep a more condensed version of that story. Some of the elements get a bit personal so I won't go into those areas for now.
I'd be happy to send a web sample if you could send me an e-mail address via the messages, then I could get a mailing address that way.
I agree that if we stay persistant on this issue and keep chiseling away at the wall of defense set up by those in charge we'll eventually see that wall start to crumble and see who and what may be hiding behind it.
I had a chance to read a few of the articles in the Babel magazine and thought they were quite interesting...I'll be checking out some more when I have more time.
Take Care .... Catnip
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wingedpiper
Joined: 06 Apr 2002
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Location: State College, Pa. |
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Tue Apr 16, 2002 7:44 am
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Hey Catnip,
Excellent about reading Babel...thank you!
You can send me email to sisyphus1285@cs.com.
You may address it to either me or victor thorn, or both of us. He is my boyfriend and the publisher of Babel.
If you write, Catnip, you should submit something to Babel.
take care,
lisa |
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