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rainheart
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Bush authorizes quarantine for mystery illness
WASHINGTON (AP) - President George W. Bush on Friday gave health officials authority to quarantine Americans sick with a deadly flu-like illness which has killed over 80 people throughout the world.
Health officials have no immediate plans to use the new powers in fighting severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS.
In an executive order signed Friday, Bush added SARS to the list of diseases for which health authorities have authority to involuntarily quarantine Americans.
It's the first time a new disease has been added to the list in two decades.
... http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2003/4/5/latest/11260Bushautho&sec=latest |
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FLKook
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:47 am
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Let's take a step back and consider this...
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ONE MORE TIME ON DISEASE INVENTION
April 7. Because even alternative news sites fall for this on a regular basis, I want to trace a pattern.
One, the government or some government health agency announces an outbreak of what looks like a new disease.
Two, the government says it has people on the scene looking for the germ that is causing the new disease.
At this point, all sorts of people accept One and Two and begin to surmise that the germ may have been designed in a lab.
Sure, people do that work in labs, all the time. They tinker with bacteria and viruses and more exotic micro-organisms.
BUT. Why accept, on the face of it, that the government has discovered an outbreak of some singular discrete new disease entity in the first place? Why assume that? Why buy that?
These government agencies are in the business of welding together people and their symptoms and coming up with authoritative disease names.
A cough and a fever in Hong Kong becomes linked to a headache and diarrhea in Miami. They say the folks in Hong Kong and Miami are all suffering from Zabeeweedee, the ONE new disease which is caused by some ONE germ they are presently looking for.
Hold it right there. THIS is the place to pause.
Are they lying? Did they really track those people on the plane? If so, why are they now saying, for example, in the SARS situation, that "the very first person with SARS in China (itself a fatuous idea)" did NOT give SARS to his immediate family?
Before asserting that some new disease was really a planted germ they cooked up in a lab, why not find out if it IS a disease, instead of something more subtle: a linking up of people and their symptoms that don't really fit together.
Come ON.
You know, people in Hong Kong and Singapore and China and Canada die all the time. Every day. And some of them display, among other things, cough and fever and fatigue and respiratory problems. They call it flu, they call it pneumonia, they call it lung complications. But now they call it SARS. And they have found no convincing virus. They have found no root cause. But that doesn't stop them. They are already working on a vaccine against a germ they don't have.
They have admitted, on top of it, that the people in China are dying of pneumonia, but in the US, pneumonia hasn't been seen so far. What's next? Will cervical cancer become the leading US symptom of SARS? Polio? Automobile accidents on lonely roads after midnight?
After 20 years of investigating medical scandals, I've learned to stop the merry-go-round just after it starts, and say PROVE IT. PROVE THAT YOU JUST FOUND A NEW DISEASE. PROVE THAT ALL THESE CASES ARE LINKED.
JON RAPPOPORT http://www.nomorefakenews.com
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Hoople
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Tue Apr 08, 2003 12:25 pm
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FlKook, thanks for that post! It was really time to read something sane on this sit and come back to reality.
I use to frequent Jon Rapapport's site but it's been some time since I've stopped by over there. I always thought that the guy had a pretty sane perspective on things and here he is once again demonstrating it.
Thanks again. Hoople |
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Shadow
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Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:35 am
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Quarantined Doctor in Toronto Describes SARS Disease
"I think we might find that SARS causes quite a massive immune response on the part of the human host that the virus is able to trick the sick human host and have it over react. ...Maybe the way this SARS disease hurts the host is almost like the host turning on itself (in an auto-immune way)."
- Donald Low, M. D., Chief of Microbiology, Mt. Sinai Hospital, Toronto, Canada
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More FYI:
Interview by Linda Molten Howe
Death from SARS Might Be Caused by Body's
Own Massive Immune Response to New Virus
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS HAPPENING THAT IS MAKING THE SARS PATIENTS SO SICK AND KILLING THOSE THAT DIE?
I think we might find that SARS causes quite a massive immune response on the part of the human host that the virus is able to trick the sick human host and have it over react. In fact, we might see that some of the lung damage is a result of host inflammatory products such as interferon in such high quantities which can cause damage. Maybe the way this SARS disease hurts the host is almost like the host turning on itself (in an auto-immune way). Our experience is more of a diffuse pneumonia which often involves both lung fields.
YOU ARE SEEING ALVEOLI DAMAGE?
Yes, in the few number of cases where we do have autopsy examinations, we've seen alveoli damage, but very little in the way of inflammatory cells. But they are clearly a picture of acute injury to the lung.
HOW MANY OF YOUR PATIENTS HAVE HAD TO GO ON VENTILATORS?
We must be up around 10, which would be fitting in with the findings in Hong Kong and we've had 7 people who have died.
OF THOSE WHO DIED, WAS THERE ANY COMMON DENOMINATOR ABOUT WHY THEY DIED?
With regards to risk factors, it's older age, typically patients who are older than 65 years or have underlying disease. But we recognize this can also occur in younger patients and it might be a result that those patients who are exposed to a sick person where they get exposed to a large number of virus particles that results in such an overwhelming infection in both lungs.
What Exactly Is the SARS Microbe?
Editorial Note: After this interview, China health officials reported on April 4, that the SARS microbe - at least in Hong Kong and Guandong Province - seems to have hooked up with the Chlamydia pneumonia virus, creating a brand new virus that has jumped from animal to human.
THE ORIGINAL ELECTRON MICROSCOPE INFORMATION FROM DR. JOHN TAM IN HONG KONG.
Yes, I know John.
IT SUGGESTED PARAMYXO VIRUS WHICH CAUSES MUMPS, MEASLES AND CHILDHOOD CROUP. THEN A WEEK ALTER, CDC WAS SAYING THAT OTHER WORK BEING DONE BY OTHER PEOPLE SUGGESTED IT MIGHT BE THE CORONA VIRUS THAT CAUSES THE COMMON COLD. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION NOW THAT IS REINFORCING EITHER ONE OF THOSE HYPOTHESES?
I think most of the information is pointing towards the corona virus and this is a new corona virus that did not come from humans, but came from animals. It's jumped species, but not only has been able to jump species and cause disease, but is able to transmit from person-to-person. That is the worst possible combination of events because that means we have a new virus that can cause significant disease in a totally non-immune population.
WHY IS IT THAT THIS ALWAYS SEEMS TO COME OUT OF CHINA AND HONG KONG - THAT PART OF THE WORLD?
If you go and visit there, what you'll find is that there are very few backyards that don't have chickens and pigs in them. I was just in Cambodia and a floating village on one of the lakes, and right next to the home in a little float was a pig and some chickens. There is a very close approximation of animals with humans and that's what happened with the avian influenza of 1997 the disease in chickens was able in close proximity to jump into humans. Fortunately there, we never saw any transmission from humans to humans.
THAT'S WHEN THEY KILLED THOSE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CHICKENS TRYING TO CONTROL?
Exactly.
If New Animal-To-Human Virus, Why Low Mortality Rate So Far?
IF THIS IS A BRAND NEW CORONA VIRUS THAT HAS GONE FROM ANIMAL TO HUMAN AND THEN CAN TRANSMIT HUMAN TO HUMAN, WHY WOULD THE MORTALITY RATE BE STILL ONLY AROUND 3 TO 5%?
Because that's the ideal way for a virus to function. This is what a virus wants to do. An ideal virus does not kill its host. It causes disease. If a virus had a very high mortality rate, such as Ebola virus, it would be very easy to contain because the host would not be able to get on a plane and go to another country to spread disease. So, viruses and all bacteria and pathogens all these things it's like a computer virus. A good computer virus comes into your computer and sits around there and maybe causes a bit of problems, but doesn't cause you to crash and that allows you to send it by e-mail to other computers and it amplifies the numbers. This is exactly what you are seeing with this virus.
Websites:
http://www.who.int/en/ (World Health Organization)
http://www.cdc.gov/ (Centers for Disease Control)
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Hoople
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Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:31 pm
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http://www.mercola.com/2003/apr/12/gulf_war.htm
Gulf War 2 and Killer Pneumonia
Hong Kong doctors and nurses are being honored for treating patients struck by the outbreak of a deadly flu-like virus known as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). SARS has killed 25 people and infected more than 900 others in Hong Kong, and at the Hong Kong Film Awards the front-line medical workers were praised as heroes.
Close to one-quarter of Hong Kong’s SARS cases are medical workers who became ill while treating infected patients. Many of the workers who recover from the disease go back into the SARS wards to continue treating patients, leading some to compare their selfless acts of bravery to New York City’s heroes of the World Trade Center disaster.
Medical authorities in Hong Kong are preparing for 3,000 SARS patients in the event the outbreak gains momentum. Thousands of people have taken to wearing surgical masks in the hopes of preventing the disease. Meanwhile, an e-mail card, which has been signed by more than 64,000 people, is being circulated to boost the morale of the medical workers.
Worldwide, 104 people have died from SARS and more than 2,600 have been infected. No hospital workers are known to have died from the disease.
Analysts say that many people in Hong Kong have little faith in their government’s leadership and are instead pulling behind the doctors and nurses who have risked their lives to treat those with the disease.
Yahoo News April 9, 2003
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DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT:
Despite the panic incited by the outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), influenza remains a much greater health risk, killing hundreds of thousands of people around the world each year. So the intent of this comment is to avoid adding additional hype to SARS.
However, I reviewed the above story on the same day that looting in Baghdad started, and it was all but obvious that Iraq is finally liberated from Saddam’s rule. I was struck with a noticeable parallel in the two most highlighted news stories to date, SARS and Gulf War 2 : both the soldiers in Iraq and the medical workers on SARS have put their own lives at risk for the benefit of others. To lay down one’s life for someone else is one of the highest loves one can demonstrate.
The reason I wanted to comment on this , though , is to point out the obvious. One does not send soldiers into battle without adequate preparation. That is a basic strategy of any war. One needs to be prepared.
While America has clearly demolished the technologically inferior Iraqi army, a similar strategy in the war against SARS will fail miserably.
One can’t fight SARS with technology (at least at the current state of medicine as I understand it). It will be an exercise in absolute futility because:
There is no vaccine in the world that will control this disease.
No amount of anti-viral measures will help.
You won’t be able to use a surgical mask to prevent acquiring the disease.
The only solution for treating SARS is to proactively activate your immune system. SARS, HIV, Lyme's, Herpes, and many as yet undiscovered infections... these are NOT the problem. They are only the triggers that highlight the weaknesses in our immune armor.
The traditional medical view does not understand or appreciate this concept, which is why they are blindly going into the SARS battle without protection. This reminds me of the large number of Iraqi soldiers who are charging columns of our M1 Abrams and Bradleys.
It isn’t a fair fight and they aren't even considering the bigger picture before charging ahead.
Similarly, these doctors are going in unprepared, and the fact that people are dying is in no way any surprise. This is exactly what can be expected with a deadly viral infection.
To expose yourself to this virus when you are ingesting sugar, not sleeping well and under stress is unwise at the most extreme level.
The medical workers need to be prepared like the soldiers we send into battle, with appropriate supporting armor of an optimized immune system. An optimized immune system is absolutely more than capable of handling SARS or any other infectious challenge.
That is the way God designed us; this is not a design failure. God doesn’t make junk. The only reason why SARS is able to kill people is because they have weakened immune systems resulting from:
A diet that is focused on large amounts of processed foods
Unresolved emotional stressors
Inadequate sleep and exercise
I am so personally convinced of this truth that I would have no problem treating patients with SARS because I am absolutely confident this virus is no match for my immune system.
The solution for SARS, and most any other infectious illness, does not involve an expensive drug or nutritional supplement but merely application of the basics that involve eating for your Metabolic Type, addressing unresolved emotional conflicts, and staying away from toxic poisons like sugar, mercury and for most people grains.
If you apply these basics your body has no choice but to stay healthy and get better. It is my strong clinical belief and frequent observation in my clinical practice that each of us has been provided with an enormous array of biochemical mechanisms that are designed to generate health. Most of us have to regularly violate these principles for many years before we reap the fruits of our unhealthy choices.
Fortunately, the repair mechanisms work quite well for most of us and are activated once we apply these health basics.
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Hoople
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Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:50 pm
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Dr. Mercola's comment on SARS that I posted above presents a viewpoint on the immune system. This article below presents a rather different viewpoint on the immune system. I imagine there's probably a great deal of validity in both.
Thoughts from a Hot Zone: Give Me a New Immune System
The SARS scare in Toronto shows how bad a looming epidemic would be. There's little we can do to prevent it, so bring on the nanobots
Simon Smith
Betterhumans Staff
[Monday, April 07, 2003] I was initially cynical. Yes, thousands of people had SARS. But very few had died. Despite the emails describing the illness in apocalyptic terms, it was still far riskier to drive a car than randomly hug subway riders. I wouldn't take a trip to China, but I wasn't going to alter my life much.
Or so I thought.
That was two weeks ago, before Toronto became a hot zone and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome hit home. Hospitals closed. Newspapers started running daily updates. Surgical masks became sought-after fashion accessories and quickly sold out everywhere.
Then my partner, Paula, entered voluntary quarantine after visiting a hospital in which a patient was found to have the illness. The hospital became a SARS-cophagus -- all sealed up, with nobody but healthcare workers allowed in. An aunt and cousin who attended the same hospital also entered isolation.
Now I've gone from cynical to seriously concerned. SARS is the warning shot: An epidemic looms that could kill millions -- or hundreds of millions. And while better than inaction, closing hospitals, stopping air travel, warning tourists, disinfecting counters, wearing masks and quarantining lovers will never prevent an epidemic from wiping out swaths of people.
"Infectious agents will always be present in the natural environment and their evolution into new forms will continue for the foreseeable future," says Robert A. Freitas Jr., a nanotechnology researcher and the author of Nanomedicine, a massive compilation of nanotech solutions to health problems. "So microbes will continue to attempt to colonize human bodies."
What we need is a better immune system.
Fortunately, Freitas has designed one.
Know your enemy
As of Friday, April 4, SARS had infected 18 countries. Worldwide, there were 2,400 cases and 80 deaths from the illness.
About 10% to 20% of SARS sufferers will require mechanical ventilation. About four percent will die -- equivalent to the death rate from the flu. There are no treatment protocols, but antibiotics, antivirals and steroids have shown some benefit.
Doctors believe that SARS is mainly spread through droplet transmission -- coughing and sneezing. Most transmission involves direct contact with an infected person. Healthcare workers are especially vulnerable.
A previously unrecognized coronavirus is likely the culprit. With a crown-like appearance, coronaviruses commonly cause mild respiratory illnesses. This one, apparently, is far more severe.
The next epidemic
Are we on the verge of another disaster, one reminiscent of last century's Spanish Flu? That epidemic swept the globe from 1918 to 1920, left a billion people sick -- more than half of the world's population at the time -- and killed at least 40 million people -- four times the death toll of World War I.
Since the Spanish Flu, two other big pandemics have struck, one in 1957 and one in 1968. Both were responsible for millions of deaths.
There's no way of knowing when we'll have the next.
Environmental changes can benefit microbes that cause infectious diseases. Microbes also typically have high replication rates, allowing them to colonize and mutate quickly. High mutation rates help microbes evade our immune system and such technological defenses as antibiotics.
The flu virus is particularly dangerous. It can live in humans, birds and other animals, and some strains can survive on exposed surfaces. The flu is also highly contagious because it spreads through the air. And its replication method is highly prone to mutations, so it's hard to fight.
Then, of course, there's bioterrorism. With a little help from humans with ill intentions, microbes can become even more virulent and deadly.
Battling microbes
Don't get me wrong, we've come a long way since Dutch merchant Antoni van Leeuwenhoek first looked at a living microbe in the 17th century. (He wanted to examine the quality of cloth, and made a powerful magnifying glass that he eventually used to find "little animals" -- microbes -- in drops of water.)
About 200 years later, Louis Pasteur theorized that microbes involved in wine fermentation might also cause illness.
From there, we developed pasteurization, antibiotics, antivirals, vaccines and other treatments.
Our success has led to expectations that advances in existing treatments will eliminate all infectious agents.
But even with our high technology, dumb packages of harmful, replicating genetic material humble us. Despite all our medical advancements, we're still vulnerable to the ravages of randomly mutated viruses.
Also, war and natural disasters create environments in which infectious agents thrive, changes in human activity expose us to new pathogens and bacteria can develop antibiotic resistance.
So how can we hope to prevent a future epidemic?
Nano defenders
Enter the microbivore.
One of Freitas's many medical nanobot designs, microbivores would patrol your bloodstream to find and digest pathogens such as bacteria, viruses and fungi.
Each microbivore could destroy one pathogen in 30 seconds -- about 100 times faster than a natural leukocyte or macrophage, says Freitas. The robots could eliminate the most severe infections, he says, in minutes to hours.
And if properly designed, says Freitas, microbivores should be able to detect and eliminate virtually any biological pathogen. They could even destroy viruses with high mutation rates, such as the flu, he says, by targeting their genes.
"By the time a molecular manufacturing technology exists that can build medical nanobots, this same technology will make possible the performance of comprehensive microbial assays of tiny blood and tissue samples, with full genomic characterization of all microbes detected, on a timescale of minutes after extraction from the patient," says Freitas.
Even rapidly mutating viruses could be detected through genomics, with microbivores seeking their genetic sequence. "Treatment time should again be on the order of hours or less, even for previously unknown pathogens," says Freitas.
The long wait
Of course, microbivores are nowhere near reality.
Researchers are making steady gains in nanoscale engineering, but have yet to produce programmable nanobots.
Until they do, we'll just have to battle with what's at hand, and quarantine the sick and possibly infected, even when they're close to us.
And we'll just have to hope that nanobots join our arsenal before the next epidemic.
Simon Smith is the founder and editor-in-chief of Betterhumans. You can reach him at simon@betterhumans.com.
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Shadow
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Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:35 pm
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quote:
Hoople
The long wait
Of course, microbivores are nowhere near reality.
FYI - the wait may be over.
Segments about this product have recently been on TV news.
Please read www.hyperimmuneegg.org
along with www.biochoicemiracle.com
This is unlike any product on the market, worldwide.
Ciao, Shadow |
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