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Dick Eastman
Joined: 10 Feb 2001
Posts: 33
Location: Yakima, Washington, USA |
 Thu Mar 15, 2001 7:30 pm
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Put me down for the opinion that "global warming" has always been a disinformation
cover to hide the fact of totally managed
earth weather. Like the Federal Reserve
and WTO pretend to react to economic conditions, but actually cause the economic events that make rich people on the inside richer, so the World Weather Organization and other clandestine organizations are managing weather events for their own ends,
ends not necessarily consonent with the
"public good." and now Canada is retreating from its now-untenable denial of CWM, to the position that CWM is secret "reaction" to global warming. (Like hell. (Why make it secret if it is not somehow "nonlegit?")
But wishy-washy to the end, I reserve
the right to change my mind this afternoon.
Related:
"Increase in Greenhouse Gases Seen From Space"
(Source: Reuters, 3/14/01)
LONDON - Scientists dispelled any lingering doubts about the increase of
greenhouse gases in the atmosphere Wednesday with new evidence from
satellites orbiting the Earth. Until now researchers have depended on
ground-based measurements and theoretical models to gauge the change in
greenhouse gases, believed by scientists to be the cause of global warming
and major climate disruption.
New sets of data taken 27 years apart from two satellites orbiting the
Earth have now provided the first observational evidence from space of a
rise in greenhouse gases.
``We've seen greenhouse gas increases that we can link to a change in
outgoing long-wave radiation, which is believed to force the climate
response,'' said Dr. Helen Brindley, an atmospheric physicist at Imperial
College in London.
By comparing the two sets of data, Brindley and her colleagues have shown
a change in greenhouse gas emissions from Earth over 27 years which is
consistent with ground-based measurements. The comparison of the data,
reported in the science journal Nature, shows real differences over 27
years in the outgoing long-wave radiation which can only be due to
greenhouse gases.
The scientists compared data for a region over the Pacific Ocean and the
entire globe to calculate the differences in the levels of atmopheric
methane, carbon dioxide (CO2), ozone and chlorofluorocarbons.
``Because we know where in the spectrum certain greenhouse gases are
observed, when we look at the changes between the two periods we can say
that change is due to changes in CO2 or methane,'' Brindley said in a
telephone interview.
``There has been quite a significant change over the past 30 years,
particularly in methane.''
One of the most powerful greenhouse gases, methane, is emitted from
landfill sites and disused mines. The scientists took into account the
influence of clouds and seasonal variations, so the changes they observed
could only be explained by long-term changes in greenhouses gases, they
said.
``It's the first time that we have seen observationally that these changes
are really having an effect on the radiative forcing of the climate,''
said Brindley.
Radiative forcing is the measure of the climate effects of greenhouse
gases.
``Since these are the models used to predict future climate and influence
policy decisions, it is imperative that they can accurately simulate
measurements of what is considered to be the driving mechanism behind
climate change,'' said Professor John Harries, the first author of the
Nature study.
Without significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions, scientists
estimate the Earth's temperature and sea levels will rise, leading to
increased flooding and drastic climate changes.
Industrialized nations agreed to cut their emissions of greenhouse gases
under a plan agreed in Kyoto, Japan in 1997 but talks in the Hague in
November to finalize details broke down.
//end//
I say CWM CHEMTRAILING MAY BE THE EXPLANATION, not human productive
industry.
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defender
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Thu Mar 15, 2001 11:19 pm
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Dick, if that barium found in chemtrails is creating the increased warming, then that does seem to add to the weather manipulation theory. The Mad Cow disease in Europe may be more of the same (or similar), strategic biological/chemical attacks to affect world market? And the band plays on.... same old 'warm fuzzy' garbage on TV in the midst of global economic warfare?
Thermit, is it my imagination, or is there a lot less spraying going on in Houston? I just haven't seen anything remotely like the photos I took in Iowa City in January. I'm more in the Woodlands/Conroe area though and there has been a lot of rain and overcast weather. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention. |
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Dick Eastman
Joined: 10 Feb 2001
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Location: Yakima, Washington, USA |
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Fri Mar 16, 2001 8:25 pm
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Defender, I just know about the facts
I have run across, so can't say anything
about your barium idea. BUT I certainly
have found reason to support your other
idea: "more of the same (or similar), strategic biological/chemical attacks to affect world market? And the band plays on."
I have just discovered powerful corroberation
for the clandestine weather modification thesis.
Not only does the NSF have the EOS system
to collect the necessary real-time data;
and the cruching power to process that data fast
enough for identify weather interventions timley
enough for weather modification (i.e. identify
interventions within the limited time frame or "window
of control ability" before repeated interactions among
variables sensitive to the "way out" significant figures
in the various data makes prediction and control a
practical impossibility.)
Now we find that NSF, Carnegie Mellon
and a host of other establishment research
institutions have been developing and
elaborating the specific science that
determines the economic effects of
weather modification.
Carnegie Mellon in the early 1990's used
the ICAM-3 super computer to model the
economic and social effects of various
factors of storms and other weather events.
They created formulae for determining
how weather events affect economic
and sociological variables.
Also in the 1990's the NSF has sponsored
modeling of ecological distortion that
results from even minor changes in
atomspheric and oceanographic conditions.
If one view weather modification as an
instrument then these researches provide
the road map, the target, the payoff
(destructive as well as constructive).
The new name the NSF has given this
research into the effects of specific
weather changes upon the economy, the
environment and public health is
"The Biocomplexity Initiative."
NSF director, Rita Colwell, the "Alan
Greenspan" of strategic scientific information,
identifies the goal of the Biocomplexity Initiative
as developing "tools that can help us predict
environmental changes" and understand the
"ramifications" of "human actions"
on "life-supporting environmental processes."
Most ominous in this mix, is the NSF-supported
combined meteorlogical and
microbiology research work in
New Mexico, which identifies the invasive
paths of infection, for example, the
induction of virus outbreaks by wetter-
than-normal-early spring or, I might add,
warmer than usual waters in the Indian
Ocean.
See www.nsf.gov to learn how the Biocomplexity
Initiative is seeking to specify the exact conditions
that must obtain to effect the collapse of natural
fishing stocks.
I am not saying that the scientists working
on the various projects mentioned here
are aware that what they are doing may
figure destructive clandestine weather
modification operations. In fact there
is strong reason to believe that there is
not.
In fact, under Colwell, government-managed
research into interactive natural and human-derived
environmental-system interaction,
utilizes scientists who have been narrowly
focused and fragmented, and puts these researchers
who have never collaborated,
i.e., who are not part of a dynamic scientific
community/culture and uses them
for only one year, before cutting them off.
None of the researchers ever get the full
picture. (It would be a courageous act
for such researchers to now step forward
and confirm this to an uncertain public.)
One more important and revealing juxtaposition
of facts in the public domaine:
The Trilateral Commission is on record
as considering major disasters as a
means of moving people to consent to
limits on democracy and the wide-spread
sharing in economic growth and development.
"We have come to recognize that there
are potentially desirable limits to economic growth.
There are also potentially desirable
limits to th3 indefinite extension of political
democracy ... A government which lacks
authority .. will have little ability,
short of cataclysmic crisis, to impose on its
people the sacrifices which may be
necessary."
--Report on Governability
of Democracies to the
Trilateral Commission"
"The Crisis of Democracy, 1975)
But according to Discover Magazine this
month (3/2001) Carnegie Mellon has found
that "slowly changing environmental
conditions" (i.e., the global warming
scare) do not motivate people to to
address such changes (and respond with
acceptance of) important public policy
implications."
In other words, it takes CWM-disasters
and not "global warming" junk-science
half-truth scares to get people to
surrender political power and accept
smaller shares of global wealth. And, maybe
that is what the chemtrails are doing there,
and why humanity is going through
environmental hell since the early 1990's.
(More later.)
Dick Eastman
Yakima
U.S.A.
Every man is responsible to every other man. |
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Tue Mar 27, 2001 9:37 pm
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http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Willthomas/milop.htm
quote:
“Mark, it’s [gives name], Victoria Airport Authority. Just calling you back from your comment. From what I gather, it’s a military exercise, U.S. and Canadian air force exercise that’s goin’ on. They wouldn’t give me any specifics on it. Hope that helps your interest. Very odd. Thanks a lot. Bye bye now.”
quote:
Then he told me "off the record, I was called this morning and told I had to re-route some of my traffic as there would be a 'military excercise' in our area. Of course they wouldn't give me any of the particulars and I don't ask. I just do my job."
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Dirk Digler
Joined: 16 Mar 2001
Posts: 126
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Wed Mar 28, 2001 1:16 am
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thermit,
forgive my ignorance on this matter. all i know is what i read on a couple of theads. but is it suppose to be odd that a civilian ATC guy didnt have any info on a military excersize?
i think you'll find that is pretty much the same answer that you will get no matter what the excersize. they dont give out the details of their training ops.
was art bell or thomas trying to imply that this was somehow incriminating? if so then they are really reaching.
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cydoniaquest
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Wed Mar 28, 2001 2:55 am
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I think Thomas was trying to get across the idea that they were leaving these huge big-a** contrails. And the idea that these events were not even disclosed to the local Canadian airport authority.
I think the fact that they were military was only part of the equation...not necessarily the entire point of the story....at least as I remember hearing it.. |
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