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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Low Flying Chemtrailer?
 Fri Aug 25, 2000 7:25 pm
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Found this at Chemtrail.com, an interesting picture taken by Harvey Glenn near Boulder City, Nevada (near Las Vegas):
My first guess would be that this guy is putting out fires, although it doesn't look like there is much to burn out there in the desert. Maybe they are just practicing...anybody have any ideas? |
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Falcon
Joined: 04 Aug 2000
Posts: 87
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Sat Sep 09, 2000 1:37 pm
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Sorry guys, haven't been around for a few weeks. I'm sure you all missed me.
Interesting picture this. Question: Why are the wingtip vortices and prop wake having no effect on the "trail" behind the aircraft? Also, are you seriously suggesting that this aircraft has been modified to "spray" from the upper surface of the wing, or the trailing edge of the flaps. Come on be serious. |
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Sat Sep 09, 2000 4:20 pm
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Hey Falcon. Yeah we missed you in a funny kind of way... 
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Why are the wingtip vortices and prop wake having no effect on the "trail" behind the aircraft?
Unless this picture is doctored, the "trail", whatever it is, would have been subject to natural aerodynamic forces. I checked the image at high magnification, it is composed of 8x8 sub-blocks of pixels. The sub-blocks are consistent throughout the image, including the 'exhast' area. This would be insanely difficult to fake.
I'm not suggesting anything about the subject of this picture. Would seriously like to know what it actually is. Could it be engine problems? |
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Falcon
Joined: 04 Aug 2000
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Mon Sep 11, 2000 1:25 pm
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Not engine problems, possibly dumping fuel, if the C130 has that capability, I don't know.
Beats me, but if I was going to modify an aircraft to trail substances into the atmosphere I sure as hell wouldn't do it from the top surface of the wing, or the trailing edges, far to difficult.
The lack of aerodynamic, wingtip vortice effect on the trail doesn't help me believe it's authenticity. |
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nsasucks
Joined: 02 Jan 2001
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 3:51 pm
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This is all soooooo familiar.
(I'm looking for stuff on Chickie-Deb or the housewife, or whatever it's called, and keep running into this Falcon character. Gosh Falcon has the exact same writing style as...?) |
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3T3L1
Joined: 08 Mar 2001
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 4:40 pm
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ALLEGED nsasucks, ALLEGED I wouldn't want ALLEGED you to draw any ALLEGED mistaken conclusions about anybody's ALLEGED identity.
(Just ignore me today. I'm PO'ed about everything.)
[Edited 1 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 04-13-2001] |
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nsasucks
Joined: 02 Jan 2001
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 4:52 pm
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3T3: Thanky. Read both person's posts, side by side. Do as I DID and cut and paste them into word and my great little OCR software and have it find common agreements. It says the odds of the writer of both posts or series of posts is 96%. Of course, all this is alleged.
We luv topgun and he must be on our side. How could I doubt him. He would never lie to us...never.
You have to excuse me...I'm being a hysterical chem-believer and need to be locked up...
...to protect the children. |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 5:18 pm
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It's not illegal to post under various name. People do it for different resons, perhaps to better hide their true identity (to protect their loved ones?), maybe to keep the infiltrators on their toes, maybe just for no reason in particular. I've even posted under different names nsasucks. When I was posting under the name "kelowna" at Cliffs I did it for a reason. You were taking up a lot of space with your Fighting Back series, all on different threads, and I was sure you were using your own *push-off* tactics. Well, you were convinced I was an "agent man". Just a tad paranoid there nsa?
And even if Maverick is Falcon...so what? We've got a pilot on board, who can answer aviation questions. So, let's ask him about what he knows, and stop asking him to admit chemtrails are real. He'll admit it in his own time when he's convinced.
Hope you don't think I'm an "agent-man" nsasucks. Last time I checked all the parts were female  I think efforts would be better spent uncovering the truth about chemtrails, not spent on exposing people's "fraudulent identities". Just my humble "agent-man" opinion. |
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defender
Joined: 27 Oct 2000
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 5:34 pm
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That plane looks like a C-130 of the type used by CIA/Evergreen to distribute narcotics and weapons during the past few decades... (like the one shot down during the Iran-Contra war, flown by CIA pilot Eugene Hasenfuss). But I'm not sure what that particular photos represents. The Aircraft Experts forum shows that CIA C-130's have been equipped for spraying. They have been used for forest fires, though CIA/Evergreen may have had other purposes? I found that info at another chemtrail site.
Lulu,
It wouldn't be advised for anyone to give their true name or address on the internet where any con-trail artist could use it for more clandestine harassment.
Some of them seem to be baiting people into giving out personal info by pretending to have posted their true name etc. in a forum. Just because someone pretends to identify themselves as some kind of show of honesty or integrity, don't fall for it and feel that you have to identify yourself.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by defender on 04-13-2001] |
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nsasucks
Joined: 02 Jan 2001
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 5:47 pm
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LULU: As my mind is going, please show me where I have called you an agent. I need to be refreshed. Link up the specific thread and statement, please.
Regards TG - he keeps telling us that he has never posted under anything but TG. That was my argument, and why many of us consider him the liar he is. My point (which aparrently shifted now) was that it doesn't matter how many alias or persona's one uses, but when someone says they don't BUT THEY DO, then their credibility goes into the crapper.
You see that, don't you? |
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3T3L1
Joined: 08 Mar 2001
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 5:57 pm
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Sounds right to me.
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"Read both person's posts, side by side. Do as I DID and cut and paste them into word and my great little OCR software and have it find common agreements. It says the odds of the writer of both posts or series of posts is 96%. Of course, all this is alleged."
You've piqued my curiosity, nsa, but I can't use OCR software. For some reason, it crashes my machine, so I've had to eradicate it.
If you have the time, and if your e-mail is back up, could you cut and paste your results into an e-mail to me? (No attachments, please, I don't open them.) You don't have to clean it up--I think I should be able to figure it out. Thank you and good luck on your other researches. |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 7:27 pm
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I wish I could provide the thread, but it's slipped off page 20 awhile back at Cliff's ezboard. Let me refresh your memory: You watched for over an hour while 16 of your Fighting Back threads were "bumped" off page one by "kelowna" (moi). "You missed two...keep going" you said to me and so I did. You even started a thread titled "kelowna" and called me an "agent man" (I got a good laugh over that one). Ring any bells yet? You then stated that you had been asked to leave Cliff's and I assumed you were referring to my purposely bumping your threads off page 1, as I see you still post there, and were not really 'asked' to leave, now were you? Then there was talk of your Fighting Backs being plaigerized etc.
re: fighting back #22 (your words nsa)>> Lisa mentions an old mirror site of mine, but there are only a few files there. I have 250 of these altogether, and am putting them up on a UK board right now. Once it's all up (tonight?) I'll put up the adress. Then act quickly. Every time I've done this the board was "disallowed" within 48 hrs. Intel agencies hate that the public knows "what's up". Love to all and thanks again. My first smile in days.<<
Did the Fighting Backs make it up on a UK board, or was that just when your laptop was stolen? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here, as ever since the eye-opening "Odd Chain of Events" thread I see where your anger and defensiveness comes from.
I'm also willing to give TopGun the benefit of the doubt. If he is lying, the intelligent members of this forum will catch on. |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 8:56 pm
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Now, I might be called a CIA agent for this, but could it be possible that what appears to be a spray coming from the airplane is actually a cloud behind the airplane?...Sort of like those photos where a person cups his hand under the full moon, and it looks from the perspective of the two dimensional camera like he's holding the moon in his hand?
Now, it could be I've got a failing monitor that only gets the color green (because I'm too cheap to buy a new one)...so I may not be seeing the photo too well. |
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Fri Apr 13, 2001 11:28 pm
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Defender ~ good advice, thanks.
CQ ~ looks like a bluish/greenish rapidly-formed cirrus aviaticus *cloud*, released from the upper wings of a military crop-duster-copter to me;) |
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