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shatoga
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http://www.stltoday.com/
1. click "editorials"
2. click "columnists: Eric Mink
quote:
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Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" is part opinion, part marketing - and wholly dangerous for the Republicans in November.
{more at link}
...there's no way I'd describe his work as "fair and balanced" - except in that opposite-of-reality sense Fox News uses it.
{more at link}
Moore's newest effort, "Fahrenheit 9/11," is neither short-form news nor long-form documentary; it is an immensely entertaining nonfiction movie about, of all things, contemporary American foreign policy, economic philosophy and domestic politics. It is funny in a carefree, slaughter-the-sacred-cows kind of way; gut-wrenching in its stark depictions of the casualties of war; and infuriating - as injustices and needless destruction inevitably are.
In other words, "Fahrenheit 9/11" does what good films are supposed to do: It engages viewers' emotions. It also generated more money in box-office receipts, in just its first weekend in theaters, than any previous nonfiction picture has earned.
But again, it's a movie - it's art, not science - and anyone who leaves the theater believing he has witnessed absolute revealed truth is simply a fool.
Facts are the raw material of "Fahrenheit 9/11," but Moore chooses - as is his right - what to include, what to leave out, what to elevate to importance, what to squash to insignificance and how to connect the dots to create the impressions he wants to convey.
Moore can claim that the sum of his factual parts represents truth, but he cannot claim it as an exclusive. It is a truth. It may be the most compelling truth. But it is neither the whole truth nor the only truth.
...Moore has provoked furious conservative activists and the right-wing media machine into providing priceless free publicity for "Fahrenheit 9/11." Every one of the attacks on the movie magnifies and amplifies public awareness of it far beyond the capacity of any paid ad campaign.
That this could come back to haunt Bush supporters in November is no fantasy:
Other than stoking their already heated passions, "Fahrenheit 9/11" isn't going to change any hearts and minds in the pro-Bush and anti-Bush camps. Rather, the film's potential political impact lies with undecided voters and, for that matter, people who haven't even decided whether to vote at all. If these folks are moved to see the movie, the experience is far more likely to push them toward the Democrats than toward the Republicans.
{visit link for full article}
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mark sky
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:24 am
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i forgot to mention this one last night
but Anthony J. Hilder has also been puting the pieses together and his tape is also very good
Only By "Exposing the Creators" of the first World Trade Center bombing in (1993), could we have prevented the creation of the second bombing of the World Trade Center on 9-11! We failed to make it ... "PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE" that the 1993 bombing was - Encouraged by "AGENT PROVOCATUERS" of the FB-LIE
The fact is U.S. taxpayers "bought the bomb." Worse still, since September 11, 2001 most of America's sheeple "BOUGHT THE LIE" that 19 angered Arabs & Osama bin Laden carried out the greatest act of terror in U.S. history
The stark, raw reality is that the 9-11 "story" is THE GREATEST LIE EVER SOLD. American's are being prepped for the next "staged event" Agents of the CIA, FBI, NSA, and the propaganda press will then white-wash "USAMA BIN BUSH!" Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft, Kissinger & crew will blame the innocent to protect the guilty
What's it all about? Bush & zee Boys from der "Brotherhood of Death," "Skull & Bones" are preparing us for a POLICE STATE. Bush will try to surrender the Constitution & Bill of Rights. His goal? - establish a "New World Order"
FROM> http://www.freeworldalliance.com/videos/911-TheGreatestLieEverSold.htm
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mark sky
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:35 am
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the above George Humpreys booklets are pretty cheap in quantity amounts
they are good to pass out as donations
in the church of the wholy trail
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mark sky
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:43 am
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the real bummer problem i see is
if you vote for bush, it thinks it has a mandate for world war
if you vote for kerry it thinks it has a mandate for world u.n.
not likeing world war nor world government
is a real quandary
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Mech
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:00 am
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A vote for either..is a vote for a luciferian, unaccountable NEW WORLD ORDER.
W Bush is certainly PRO UN. He signed onto the UNESCO plan that even Slick Willie wouldn't touch.
A Vote for Kerry is like a vote for a Rockafeller IMHO.
Two different heads on the same BEAST.
Only EACH OF US have the power to change things.
We can be led to slaughter...or we can wake up out of the matrix.
The choice was always ours.
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Bhang
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:52 am
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I'll take the red pill... |
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increase 1776
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Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:55 pm
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My Wild First Week
With Fahrenheit 911
By Michael Moore
7-4-4
Friends,
Where do I begin? This past week has knocked me for a loop. "Fahrenheit 9/11," the #1 movie in the country, the largest grossing documentary ever. My head is spinning. Didn't we just lose our distributor 8 weeks ago? Did Karl Rove really fail to stop this? Is Bush packing?
Each day this week I was given a new piece of information from the press that covers Hollywood, and I barely had time to recover from the last tidbit before the next one smacked me upside the head:
** More people saw "Fahrenheit 9/11" in one weekend than all the people who saw "Bowling for Columbine" in 9 months.
** "Fahrenheit 9/11" broke "Rocky III's" record for the biggest box office opening weekend ever for any film that opened in less than a thousand theaters.
** "Fahrenheit 9/11" beat the opening weekend of "Return of the Jedi."
** "Fahrenheit 9/11" instantly went to #2 on the all-time list for largest per-theater average ever for a film that opened in wide-release.
How can I ever thank all of you who went to see it? These records are mind-blowing. They have sent shock waves through Hollywood - and, more importantly, through the White House.
But it didn't just stop there. The response to the movie then went into the Twilight Zone. Surfing through the dial I landed on the Fox broadcasting network which was airing the NASCAR race live last Sunday to an audience of millions of Americans -- and suddenly the announcers were talking about how NASCAR champ Dale Earnhardt, Jr. took his crew to see "Fahrenheit 9/11" the night before. FOX sportscaster Chris Myers delivered Earnhardt's review straight out of his mouth and into the heartland of America: "He said hey, it'll be a good bonding experience no matter what your political belief. It's a good thing as an American to go see."
Whoa! NASCAR fans - you can't go deeper into George Bush territory than that! White House moving vans - START YOUR ENGINES!
Then there was Roger Friedman from the Fox News Channel giving our film an absolutely glowing review, calling it "a really brilliant piece of work, and a film that members of all political parties should see without fail." Richard Goldstein of the Village Voice surmised that Bush is already considered a goner so Rupert Murdoch might be starting to curry favor with the new administration. I don't know about that, but I've never heard a decent word toward me from Fox. So, after I was revived, I wondered if a love note to me from Sean Hannity was next.
How about Letterman's Top Ten List:
"Top Ten George W. Bush Complaints About "Fahrenheit 9/11":
10. That actor who played the President was totally unconvincing
9. It oversimplified the way I stole the election
8. Too many of them fancy college-boy words
7. If Michael Moore had waited a few months, he could have included the part where I get him deported
6. Didn't have one of them hilarious monkeys who smoke cigarettes and gives people the finger
5. Of all Michael Moore's accusations, only 97% are true
4. Not sure - - I passed out after a piece of popcorn lodged in my windpipe
3. Where the hell was Spider-man?
2. Couldn't hear most of the movie over Cheney's foul mouth
1. I thought this was supposed to be about dodgeball
But it was the reactions and reports we received from theaters around the country that really sent me over the edge. One theatre manager after another phoned in to say that the movie was getting standing ovations as the credits rolled in places like Greensboro, NC and Oklahoma City -- and that they were having a hard time clearing the theater afterwards because people were either too stunned or they wanted to sit and talk to their neighbors about what they had just seen. In Trumbull, CT, one woman got up on her seat after the movie and shouted "Let's go have a meeting!" A man in San Francisco took his shoe off and threw it at the screen when Bush appeared at the end. Ladies' church groups in Tulsa were going to see it, and weeping afterwards.
It was this last group that gave lie to all the yakking pundits who, before the movie opened, declared that only the hard-core "choir" would go to see "Fahrenheit 9/11." They couldn't have been more wrong. Theaters in the Deep South and the Midwest set house records for any film they'd ever shown. Yes, it even sold out in Peoria. And Lubbock, Texas. And Anchorage, Alaska!
Newspaper after newspaper wrote stories in tones of breathless disbelief about people who called themselves "Independents" and "Republicans" walking out of the movie theater shaken and in tears, proclaiming that they could not, in good conscience, vote for George W. Bush. The New York Times wrote of a conservative Republican woman in her 20s in Pensacola, Florida who cried through the film, and told the reporter: "It really makes me question what I feel about the president... it makes me question his motives"
Newsday reported on a self-described "ardent Bush/Cheney supporter" who went to see the film on Long Island, and his quiet reaction afterwards. He said, "It's really given me pause to think about what's really going on. There was just too much - too much to discount." The man then bought three more tickets for another showing of the film.
The Los Angeles Times found a mother who had "supported [Bush] fiercely" at a theater in Des Peres, Missouri: "Emerging from Michael Moore's 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' her eyes wet, Leslie Hanser said she at last understood. 'My emotions are just....' She trailed off, waving her hands to show confusion. 'I feel like we haven't seen the whole truth before.'"
All of this had to be the absolute worst news for the White House to wake up to on Monday morning. I guess they were in such a stupor, they "gave" Iraq back to, um, Iraq two days early!
News editors told us that they were being "bombarded" with e-mails and calls from the White House (read: Karl Rove), trying to spin their way out of this mess by attacking it and attacking me. Bush spokesman Dan Bartlett had told the White House press corps that the movie was "outrageously false" -- even though he said he hadn't seen the movie. He later told CNN that "This is a film that doesn't require us to actually view it to know that it's filled with factual inaccuracies." At least they're consistent. They never needed to see a single weapon of mass destruction before sending our kids off to die.
Many news shows were more than eager to buy the White House spin. After all, that is a big part of what "Fahrenheit" is about -- how the lazy, compliant media bought all the lies from the Bush administration about the need to invade Iraq. They took the Kool-Aid offered by the White House and rarely, if ever, did our media ask the hard questions that needed to be asked before the war started.
Because the movie "outs" the mainstream media for their failures and their complicity with the Bush administration -- who can ever forget their incessant, embarrassing cheerleading as the troops went off to war, as though it was all just a game -- the media was not about to let me get away with anything now resembling a cultural phenomenon. On show after show, they went after me with the kind of viciousness you would have hoped they had had for those who were lying about the necessity for invading a sovereign nation that was no threat to us. I don't blame our well-paid celebrity journalists -- they look like a bunch of ass-kissing dopes in my movie, and I guess I'd be pretty mad at me, too. After all, once the NASCAR fans see "Fahrenheit 9/11," will they ever believe a single thing they see on ABC/NBC/CBS news again?
In the next week or so, I will recount my adventures through the media this past month (I will also be posting a full FAQ on my website soon so that you can have all the necessary backup and evidence from the film when you find yourself in heated debate with your conservative brother-in-law!). For now, please know the following: Every single fact I state in "Fahrenheit 9/11" is the absolute and irrefutable truth. This movie is perhaps the most thoroughly researched and vetted documentary of our time. No fewer than a dozen people, including three teams of lawyers and the venerable one-time fact-checkers from The New Yorker went through this movie with a fine-tooth comb so that we can make this guarantee to you. Do not let anyone say this or that isn't true. If they say that, they are lying. Let them know that the OPINIONS in the film are mine, and anyone certainly has a right to disagree with them. And the questions I pose in the movie, based on these irrefutable facts, are also mine. And I have a right to ask them. And I will continue to ask them until they are answered.
In closing, let me say that the most heartening response to the film has come from our soldiers and their families. Theaters in military towns across the country reported packed houses. Our troops know the truth.
They have seen it first-hand. And many of them could not believe that here was a movie that was TRULY on their side -- the side of bringing them home alive and never sending them into harms way again unless it's the absolute last resort. Please take a moment to read this wonderful story from the daily paper in Fayetteville, NC, where Fort Bragg is located. It broke my heart to read this, the reactions of military families and the comments of an infantryman's wife publicly backing my movie -- and it gave me the resolve to make sure as many Americans as possible see this film in the coming weeks.
Thank you again, all of you, for your support. Together we did something for the history books. My apologies to "Return of the Jedi." We'll make it up by producing "Return of the Texan to Crawford" in November.
May the farce be with you, but not for long,
Michael Moore www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:47 am
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quote:
May the farce be with you, but not for long,
Michael Moore www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com
P.S. You can read letters from people around the country recounting their own experiences at the theater, and their reactions to the film by going here. http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/breakingnews/index.php?id=55
Thanks to the controversy about Mike Moore's movie, Farenheight 9/11;
I have visited Moore's website and followed links to some marvelous nearly concealed truths, the NWO media have suppressed.
About for example: the lie that there is "no difference" between Bush and Kerry.
>Esquire quoted Senator John Kerry (who is now running for president) as telling The Washington Post, "There is no question in my mind that people affiliated with, on the payroll of, and carrying the credentials of, the CIA were involved in drug trafficking while involved in support of the contras." In 1989, Kerry had chaired a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that dealt with the contras and cocaine.<
I've got the complete Oliver North Iran-Contra/ verbatim.
they shut down the public hearing to eject the people who held up a sign demanding "truth about the drug dealing".
That Senator Kerry tried to get some truth past the media filters back then, escaped my notice.
"There is no question in my mind that people affiliated with, on the payroll of, and carrying the credentials of, the CIA were involved in drug trafficking while involved in support of the contras." JFK(John Forbes Kerry)
Moore's movie makes the point to many of we the sheeple that our media has a role in disinforming us and molding our opinions to support Bush's party without question.
Hurray that people who see the movie are beginning to understand they have been lied to.
Now, if only, they could unbelieve those lies.
eg: "no difference..."
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Mech
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Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:43 am
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http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/
THE FOLLOWING IS THE LINE BY LINE FACTUAL BACKUP FOR 'FAHRENHEIT 9/11'
Factual Back-Up For Fahrenheit 9/11: Section One
Section One covers the facts in Fahrenheit 9/11 from the 2000 election to George W. Bush's extended visit to Booker Elementary on the morning of September 11th.
Factual Back-Up for Fahrenheit 9/11: Section Two
Section Two covers the facts in Fahrenheit 9/11 from Bush's failure to meet with Richard Clarke, to the August 6th memo, and ends with the Saudi flights out of the US after 9/11.
Factual Back-Up for Fahrenheit 9/11: Section Three
Section Three covers the facts in Fahrenheit 9/11 from Osama's relations with his family through Bush's military records and ends with Bush's business history, including Arbusto, Harken and the Carlyle Group.
Factual Back-Up for Fahrenheit 9/11: Section Four
Section Four covers the facts in Fahrenheit 9/11 covers the Carlyle Group and Saudi money in the United States and its connection to the Bush family, their friends and associates.
Factual Back-Up for Fahrenheit 9/11: Section Five
Section Five covers the facts in Fahrenheit 9/11 from Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9/11 through the natural gas pipeline in Afghanistan
Factual Back-Up for Fahrenheit 9/11: Section Six
Section Six covers the facts in Fahrenheit 9/11 from the Patriot Act through the war in Iraq.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/ |
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Jeanie
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Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:21 pm
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Saw Fahrenheit 11 on Aug 4th, I thought it revealed the REAL BUSH. Hey. wouldn't it be really terrific if Michael Moore would do a documentary on Chemtrails and HAARP  |
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