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PostFri May 18, 2001 6:20 pm  Reply with quote  

Here is a link for you regarding McVeigh, West, and the CIA and the MKultra program.


Clockwork Orange CareerMind Control
MKULTRA, Louis Jolyon West - "Joly West"

A Clockwork Orange Career
Source: Freedom Magazine http://www.freedommag.org
The maestro of "mind-control" continues to haunt America
Articles in this edition describe some of the life-destroying effects of
psychiatry's primary therapies - drugs and electric shock. The following
presents one of their chief advocates - Louis Jolyon West, director of the
UCLA
Neuropsychiatric Institute until his resignation following exposure of
possible
violations of federal law regarding use of government funds.
In a lawsuit currently before the Los Angeles Superior Court, it has come
to
light that the University of California at Los Angeles and UCLA Medical
Center
have, since the early 1980s, attempted to remove psychiatrist Louis Jolyon
West
from the roster of the university's faculty.
One psychiatric colleague who asked to go unnamed described West as
"supremely
arrogant" and charged that he "misused his positions for his own ends," at
the
expense of the university.
Many will not find such statements surprising, considering West himself,
whose
history includes controversial LSD experiments for the Central Intelligence
Agency and even more controversial plans to construct secret installations
for
the "study" and modification - by electric shock, chemical castration and
other
means - of the behavior of citizens, particularly minorities.
Indeed, any discussion of CIA "mind-control" endeavors, such as the
infamous
MK-Ultra, would be incomplete without West, who has, according to
information
provided to Freedom, enjoyed a long and lucrative career in this field.
Although
he has sometimes posed as a civil libertarian, he has not sought to expose
dangers of intelligence agency "mind-control" techniques, but rather to
secretly
perfect its use on others.
In a document released under the Freedom of Information Act, for example,
it was
revealed that more than four decades ago, the CIA sought to set West up in
a
clandestine laboratory to perform "mind-control" experiments with hypnosis
and
LSD. A portion of the experiments with LSD and other drugs in which West
was
enmeshed at the CIA's behest were exposed in the mid-1970s by the U.S.
Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence, chaired by Senator Frank Church.
West contributed to the early work which resulted in, among other things,
the
death of tennis pro Harold Blauer in an experiment with a mescaline
derivative
in New York City in 1953. The Senate Select Committee's investigation
revealed
drugging of unsuspecting targets, electric shocking to obliterate memory
and
"programming" individuals to kill - acting under psychiatric control.
West's career highlights included injecting a 7,000-pound bull elephant,
Tusko,
with an overwhelming dose of LSD - roughly 1,435 times the quantity, in
West's
own words, one would have given to a human "to produce for several hours a
marked mental disturbance." Not surprisingly, the elephant collapsed in
agony
minutes later and died.
West had ingested the mind-altering substance himself shortly before
killing
Tusko, the prize of the Oklahoma City Zoo, and was evidently still under
its
influence at the time he sloshed through the beast's entrails, performing
an
"autopsy" which he recorded on film. He later issued a report to advance
his
"discovery" that elephants could be killed with LSD and to promote use of
the
drug to cull elephant herds in Africa.
Prisons as Laboratories
"Jolly" West moved on, changing his base of operations from Oklahoma to Los
Angeles. In keeping with intelligence proposals to utilize prisons as
experimental laboratories, he drafted a plan to use electric shock and
drugs on
state inmates in what was called "aversion therapy."
In the 1960s, West could also be found in the Haight-Ashbury section of San
Francisco, conducting more LSD experiments, this time within the hippie
community.
A pet project of West's in the late 1960s and early 1970s was the Center
for the
Study and Reduction of Violence. He proposed to establish a "securely
fenced"
center at a remote, abandoned Nike missile base in the Santa Monica
Mountains,
in keeping with earlier plans by the CIA to set up "mind-control" stations
off
the beaten path, where experimentation could be carried out free from such
concerns as human rights. Ironically, West embarked on a PR campaign to
promote
himself as a champion of "human rights" - an effort that would be comical
if not
for the bottom line in terms of human suffering.
West's plans for such centers were the subject of hearings by the U.S.
Senate
Committee on the Judiciary in 1974, chaired by Senator Sam Ervin, whose
members
were alarmed at reports that West planned to test radical forms of behavior
modification - mind-bending drugs, electric shock, implantation of
electrodes in
the brain and forcible castration with the drug cyproterone acetate.
Critics
charged that his violence centers would target blacks and Mexican-Americans
in
its studies.
Other sites selected for West's violence centers in California were
Vacaville,
Camarillo and Atascadero state hospitals. It has been documented that CIA
drug
and radiation experiments did take place at Vacaville.
Yet another study that West called for was clearly aimed at intelligence
agency
application: remote monitoring and behavioral control. His plan was to use
electric shock and other means to remotely control human behavior by
computer.
Tight-Lipped
Many millions more poured into the controversial UCLA Neuropsychiatric
Institute
that West headed, including over $14 million in federal funds in one fiscal
year
before he stepped down.
West remains tight-lipped about these and other experiments and activities
which
are under examination by Freedom. Walter Bowart, author of Operation Mind
Control, described West as "perhaps the chief advocate of mind control in
America today. From his participation in the development of brainwashing
techniques for the U.S. Air Force to his involvement in the CIA 's famous
MK-Ultra projects, West has figured so prominently in the research and
development of the invisible war1 that his public career appears like a
carefully constructed espionage 'cover.'"
Between 1974 and 1989, West received at least $5,110,099 in grants from the
federal government, channeled through the National Institute of Mental
Health
(NIMH), a major funding conduit for CIA programs. Many millions more poured
into
the UCLA Neuropsychiatric Institute that West headed, including over $14
million
in federal funds in one fiscal year before he stepped down.
West has continued to advocate psychiatric drugs to treat virtually
everything,
holding that "clinging to the drug-free state of mind" is an "antiquated
position for anyone." Indeed, the unspoken thrust behind his career has
been the
control of individuals and whole populations through covert means.
Cattle Prod Therapy
Between 1974 and 1989, West received at least $5,110,099 in grants from the
federal government, channeled through the National Institute of Mental
Health
(NIMH) a major funding conduit for CIA programs.
Before stepping down as director of the Neuropsychiatric Institute, West
reportedly allowed psychiatric "treatments" that were more suited to
brainwashing, "mind control" or a torture chamber than for resolving mental
troubles. It was reported in 1976, for example, that Neuropsychiatric
Institute
psychiatrist Ivar Lovass had used electric cattle prods for "aversion
therapy"
on children.
As one newspaper stated at the time, "Farrell Instruments Company, the same
firm
which supplies other shocking equipment for UCLA's 'Clockwork Orange'
experiments on 3- to 12-year-old boys ... recognizes that aversion therapy
techniques are often cruel. An example, the company says, 'is the use of
cattle
prods which have high voltage that produces skin destruction.' Dr. Lovass
and
his partner in psychiatry, Dr. George Reker, however, favor the use of -
and
have used - cattle prods on children who are not mentally ill or criminal
or who
have not violated any law or rule - young boys merely thought to be
'effeminate.'"
Lovass - hired by West - also allegedly shocked 5-year-old twins to
"modify"
behavior, with jolts administered through a grid system in the floor that
enabled the psychiatrists to blast the children wherever they moved in the
room.

Despite the violence that marked the work of West and his cohorts, or
perhaps
because of it, he enjoyed influence in the psychiatric community, serving
for
example on the National Advisory Council to the NIMH. From his positions,
he
could have charted a far more humane and helpful course for mental health,
rather than brain-damaging drugs and electric shock.
As part of his legacy, the NIMH continues to squander billions in taxpayer
dollars to fund research on brain-damaging substances, rather than genuine
cures. The true cost - impossible to measure in money - lies in the
Americans
now dead from psychiatric drugs and electric shock or, still living,
existing as
little more than vegetables.
The secrecy and false information that for decades cloaked West's
activities
continue to shroud the effects of the treatments he promoted and which are
still
in use. And today, the living hell that Melissa Holliday experienced still
exists for nameless others you probably won't read about in the press.


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PostMon Jun 19, 2006 4:16 pm  Reply with quote  

Just doing a little retrospective, and thought this should be included on this thread...
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~noelmcd/lostlink/hypothes.htm

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A Retired General's Hypothesis Of How The OKC Bombing Was Done
Benton K. Partin
Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.)
8908 Captains Row

Alexandria, VA 22308
703-780-7652

Senator Donald Nickles
Hart Senate Office Building, Room 133
Washington, D.C. 20510

Dear Senator Nickles,
May 17, 1995

We are all grieved by the bombing tragedy in Oklahoma City. The entire nation was assaulted and we may never know who the real instigators were or why they did it, as in the Kennedy assassination.
I am concerned that vital evidence will soon be forever destroyed with the pending demolition of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

From all the evidence I have seen in published material, I can say, with a high level of confidence, that the damage pattern on the reinforced concrete superstructure could not possibly have been attained from the single truck bomb without supplementing demolition charges at some of the reinforced column bases.
The total incompatibility with a single truck bomb lies in the fact that either some of the columns collapsed that should not have collapsed or some of the columns are still standing that should have collapsed and did not.

An oversimplified analogy will help to see this point. It would be as irrational or as impossible as having a 150 pound man sit in a flimsy chair and the chair collapses: then, a man weighing 1,500 pounds sits in an identical flimsy chair and it does not collapse -- impossible.

To produce the resulting damage pattern on the building, there would have to have been an effort with demolition charges at column bases to compliment or supplement the truck bomb damage.
A careful examination of the collapsed column bases would readily reveal a failure mode produced by a demolition charge. This evidence would be so critical, a separate and independent assessment should be made before a building demolition team destroys the evidence forever.

The most critical columns to assess would be A9 and B3 as later defined. Other failed columns may also have had demolition charges at their base.

I have attached a brief resume which I will amplify to establish some measure of credibility for the comments above and comments to follow. I have spent 25 years in research, design, development, test and management of weapons development. This included hands on work at the Ballistic Research Laboratories; Commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory; Air Force System command, Air Staff and the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) management responsibility for almost every non-nuclear weapon device in the Air Force.
I was also the first chairman of the OSD joint service Air Munitions Requirements and Development Committee.

When I first saw the pictures of the truck bomb's asymmetrical damage to the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, my immediate reaction was that the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without supplementing demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete column bases (a standard demolition technique).
First, blast through air is a very inefficient energy coupling mechanism against heavy reinforced concrete beams and columns.
Second, blast damage potential initially falls off more rapidly than an inverse function of the distance cubed.
That is why in conventional weapons development, one seeks accuracy over yield for hard targets. Columns in large buildings are hard targets for blast.
NOTE: The 3-8-93 Time Magazine shows a still standing column in the middle of the Trade Center cavity with the reinforced concrete floors completely stripped away for several floors.)

The entire building in Oklahoma City could have been collapsed with relatively small demolition charges against the base of the columns and with even less explosives if linear cavity cutting charges had been used.
I know of no way possible to reproduce the apparent building damage without well placed demolition charges complimenting the truck bomb damage.

From published photographs, the basic building structure is three rows of eleven columns each. The four corner columns have external clamshell like structure for air ducts, etc., as revealed in magazine photographs of the damage.
If we label the column rows A, B, & C, from front to back, and number the columns 1 through 11 from left to right, then published pictures show columns A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, and B3 collapsed, essentially vertically.

The 5-1-95 U.S. News and World Report and other damage photos show a very large reinforced concrete header at the second floor level of column row A.
Much larger columns extend from the header down for the odd numbered columns, i.e., A3, A5, A7, A9
The even numbered columns extended down to the header with apparently reinforced concrete joints.
The heavy, odd numbered columns were all accessible from the sidewalk but collapsed Column B3, is well inside the building.

If the truck bomb was not nearest to Column A3, then a single truck bomb thesis would be even more questionable.
See the figure below.

A rough sketch of the Federal Building and its columns shown above has superimposed circles of roughly equal levels of damage potential which drop rapidly (exponentially) as they get farther and farther away from the truck bomb.
If we consider the damage potential at column A3, the closest column to the truck on the sketch, to be damage potential level one at distance one, then moving out farther multiples of that distance the destructive potential drops off as an exponential function of one over the number of multiples.

Therefore, at circle "1" you have a decisively destructive force that brought down column A3.
At circle "2" the destructive potential is marginal for row A, column A5 came down but the heavier column A1 did not.
At circle 3 level, column B3 came down, but just beyond B3, columns B2 and B4 did not come down.
Therefore, circle 3 is marginal for the columns in row B which are much smaller than the odd numbered columns in row A.

Moreover, the higher numbered columns in row A are seeing more of a lower side-on-pressure than column row B.
For any odd numbered column failure in row A, the adjacent even numbered columns would also necessarily fail.
The still standing, extended, cantilevered header, from A1 almost back to where A8 was, is probably due to the seesaw effect, over A7, as an instant pivot point, as the A row collapsed sequentially to the right by either the truck bomb or supplemental demolition charges.

If the header at column A8 had survived explosives, cascading floors could have caused it to fail. However, one would not expect such a long remaining cantilever.

From what has been stated thus far, and considering only the potential damage from the truck bomb, there are a number of problems.
A. If column A7 was brought down by the truck bomb, then most of the much smaller columns B1, B2, B4, B5 and B6 should not be still standing but they are.
B. Conversely, a truck bomb that could not bring down columns B1, B2, B4, and B5 could certainly not be expected to collapse the lower two floors of a much heavier column A7.
Thus columns A7 and A8 should still be standing which they are not.
C. For a simplistic blast truck bomb, of the size and composition reported, to be able to reach out on the order of 60 feet and collapse a reinforced column base the size of column A7 is beyond credulity.

Even bringing down B3 at its range is highly suspect. Glass and plastic can be broken a long way off with explosives but not heavy, reinforced, concrete columns.
If demolition charges were used to complement the truck bomb, the above problems all disappear.
Was it practical ? Yes, for the following reasons:
A. Columns A2, A5, A7, A9 were readily accessible from the sidewalk or curb,
B. Adequate demolition charges could have easily been put in position.
C. A simple permacord interconnect would not look too different from a piece closeline or coaxial cord.
D. If the bomb attack was desired to do more than deface the building, then inside help or loose security may have permitted placement of a charge at B3. (If they can have an Ames in CIA counterintelligence why can't they have someone if needed in Oklahoma City?
E. The payoff to the leftist, internationalist, implementation of a "world commonwealth of independent states" as a prelude to the "withering away of the state" would merit highest level planning and implementation of the Oklahoma bombing if it could result in new legislation to criminalize the patriotic support of Constitutional rights.

Who profits from the Oklahoma City bombing? Who wants to exploit it? Since 1928, the Third International program calls for the USA to be transitioned to socialism by a "War of National Liberation" (see Degras, The Communist International Documents 1919-1943, Vol. 2, Page 471 "Program of the Communist International Adopted at Its Sixth Congress" and page 526 "Extracts from the Thesis on the Revolutionary Movement in Colonial and Semi-Colonial Countries Adopted by the Sixth Cominteen Congress)."
We are by their definition a Colonial Country because of the "oppressed nations within." Before moving from the "preparatory phase" to the "period of escalating violence", an orthodox procedure is to"
(1) seek removal of the death penalty, and
(2) disarm the public.

Few things could have been more effective in moving pending draconian anti-terrorist legislation that would criminalize armed patriots in this country while making the job easier for the programmed "War of National Liberation".

The gross asymmetry in the Federal Building damage pattern is ipso facto evidence that there was most probably a demolition charge effort and a truck bomb effort.
They need not have known each other but it would have to have been coordinated at some level. That coordination could have been accomplished from almost any location in the world.
Are there local patsies, disturbed or greedy people available to help? Always.

Efforts of this magnitude and criticality are generally orchestrated by an outside team sent in for the limited purpose. In such cases, the usefulness of FBI infiltration of domestic organizations is totally circumvented.
A classic example was the communist arranged assassination of Dr. Gaitain in ,Columbia in 1948. However, the blame was put on the conservative government in power to precipitate violence against the government and disrupt the meeting of the InterAmerican Defense Board in Bogata. (See Weyl, Red Star Over Cuba, P. 15.)
The wrong people were deliberately blamed to precipitate a desired public reaction.

Nothing did more to sway public opinion against "assault" weapons than the killings with "assault" weapons at Lubys, McDonalds, a school yard and etc.
Who orchestrated them? The same goes for the Oklahoma City bombing and currently pending legislation to make support of the Second and Tenth Amendments a domestic terrorism issue.

Since the Oklahoma bomb tragedy, this country has seen one of the most intense, and most pervasive psycho-political campaigns against the so called Christian Right that has ever occurred before in this country, against any group at any time.
It far exceeds the anti-McCarthy antipathy of the 1950s and 60s. Its magnitude cannot be appreciated without browsing current periodical material in a big library.

During the early Kennedy Administration there was a clamor to make an example of some anti-communists in the military. General Edwin Walker became a target because of his pro-blue program within his command in Europe. After he retired to Dallas, Lee Harvey Oswald tried to assassinate him about two weeks after Oswald received the mail order gun he was later to use in the Kennedy Assassination.
Terrorism is pervasive today primarily because of the multiplicity of wars of National Liberation now underway and moving toward the period of escalating violence. The greatest of all advocates of terrorism was none other than Leon Trotsky whose position was that if you do not support terrorism you do not support the cause.
He even wrote a book to justify his position.

The 5-15-95 Spotlight carried an article quoting, "Ex-high Level FBI ,Official" that the bomb was a pineapple size high-tech device. In my opinion what they describe is part nonsense and part a fuel air explosive (FAE) device. Some large FAE devices were made to clear helicopter landing spaces in Vietnam jungles.
It appears to be an obfuscation capitalizing on gullibility. The big explosion in Japan recently was an "accidental" fuel air explosion. The "ping" in your car engine is a fueled air explosion.

The second delay between two events reported by a University of Oklahoma seismologist doesn't make sense. No triangulation was reported to assure the same point of origin. If there was a second large explosion, with a 10-second delay, everyone in Oklahoma City would have discerned it.
Any time delay for two-stage devices, or for demolition charges at column bases, would have been in milliseconds or microseconds and would have most probably been controlled by primacord length which detonates at about 1/4 inch per microsecond -- that is about the same speed as an orbiting satellite.

Because of the psycho-political operation going on at the present time against a Christian right" bogeyman; records in Waco, Idaho, California and other places, and the high level promotion of censured officials, I would strongly urge that the U.S. Congress take steps to assure that evidence in Oklahoma City be independently evaluated by a collection of demolition experts from the private sector before the building is demolished.
It is easy to determine whether a column was failed by contact demolition charges or by air blast loading. It is also easy to cover up crucial evidence as was apparently done in Waco. I understand the building is to be demolished by May 23rd or 24th.
Why the rush to destroy evidence?

I discussed this with your assistant, Lee Morris, early in the month.

Sincerely,

Benton K. Partin
B/G USAF Ret.

MAY/ JUNE 1995 OF THE McALVANY INTELLIGENCE ADVISOR
P.O. BOX 84904 * PHOENIX, ARIZ0NA 85071
FOR SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION PLEASE CALL (800)528-0559

BENTON K. PARTIN
8908 Captains Row
Alexandria, Virginia 22308
(703) 780-7652

Biographical Notes
Thirty one years active duty in the Air Force. Progressively responsible executive, scientific and technical assignments directing organizations engaged in research, development, testing, analysis, requirements generation and acquisition management of weapons systems.
Assignments from laboratory to the Office of the Secretary of Defense.
Personal contributions made in the fields of research and development management, weapon system concepts, guided weapons technology, target acquisition aids, focused energy weapons, operations research and joint service harmonization of requirements.
Retired as a Brigadier General.
White House appointed Special Assistant to the Administrator, Federal Aviation Administration.
Personally designated to prepare the White Paper on the Federal Aviation Administration for the 1989 Presidential Transition Team.
This included development of policy initiatives on FAA/USAF joint use of the Global Positioning System (GPS), operational life for commercial aircraft, anti-terrorism, airport and airway capacity, requirements in the FAA acquisition process and FAA leadership and management development.
Military Command Pilot and Command Missleman with 4000 hours (37 combat.)
Education: B.S. Chemical Engineering; M.S. Aeronautical Engineering; Ph.D. Candidate, Operations Research h Statistics (Academics Completed.)
Publications/TV
Sino-Soviet Conflict, Competition and Cooperation:
Risks in Force Structure Planning.
A Reduced Upper Limit for Sequential Test Truncation Error.
Frequent TV Talk Shows on the Voice of Freedom.
Honors: Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit thrice,
Distinguished Graduate - Air War College
Community Affairs:
Chairman, United States Defense Committee
Member of the Board, In Touch Missions International
Member of the Board, Front Line Fellowship
Founding Chairman of the School Board, Engleside Christian School
Washington Representative for the Association of Christian Schools International (1981-1983)
Chairman Fairfax County Republican Party (1982-1986)
Lifelong Professional Challenge: Continuing studies and analyses to anticipate and forecast the future course of world military/political/economic transforming processes.

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PostWed Jul 05, 2006 3:23 pm  Reply with quote  

I've been tracking the following info for awhile and seem to be the only one hip to the game:


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On the morning of April 19, 1995, Timothy McVeigh parked a rented Ryder truck with e x p l o s i v e s in front of the complex and, at 9:02am, a massive explosion occurred which sheared the entire north side of the building, k i l l i n g 168 people.


http://www.oklahomacitynationalmemorial.org/hist.htm

So if the b o m b exploded at 9:02 as reported on all news broadcast on that day and as the offical memorial site still maintains, then why on earth does the memorial read 9:03?



Because people like me would have noticed the 9/11 connection.

9:02 / 9:11

get it?

Also check this out: April 19th T e r r o r i s t Ritualistic date -

Unholy "Super-Blood-Rituals" to mold minds of the populace while appeasing evil Gods.

80% of the population to be wiped off the map and one of the ritual dates:

April 19 is the 109th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar (110th in leap years). There are 256 days remaining.

2+5+6= 13

13 of course being a favorite occult number.

April 19, 1933, Franklin D. Roosevelt announces that the US will leave the gold standard.(Enter the Unconstitutinal Federal Reserve http://wachadoo.com/forum/forum12.html ).

April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City b o m b i n g (Subliminal preparation for Police State/Patriot Act and attacking m i l i t i a s.

April 19, 1993, Waco Massacre. (Attack on m i l i t i a s and 2nd Amendment)



April 19, 1999, Columbine s h o o t i n g s. (Mind Control and Security Upgrades - also the school of the Rebels "Symbolic-Patriots" look like t e r r o r i s t. The Swat Team came in and shot up Rebel Pride.)




April 19, 2005, Cardinal Ratzinger (German N a z i ?) was elected by his fellow Cardinals to the throne of St. Peter, Bishop of Rome, Shepherd of the Holy Catholic Church.


Let us not forget ol' H i t l e r 's birthday was only a day later on April 20 or 4/20.

notice that April 19 is 109th day of the year.
19

Or 110th in leap year.
19 Highjackers and 110 stories of the WTC....

Additional note: All those dates mentioned above, occurred within a single life span.

The Novus Ordo Seclorum is closing its Iron Fist!

Do the math…


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Interesting side note of April 19 ----
April 19, 1943, when Dr. Albert Hofmann first took his discovery L S D intentionally. Three days earlier, he had absorbed a small amount of the through his fingertips. On Bicycle Day, he took 250 µg of L S D at 4:20PM and, fearing he had made himself ill, bicycled home from his lab. He wrote about his experiments and experience, which was later put into his book
L S D : My Problem Child.


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