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PostSat Feb 09, 2002 8:24 pm  Reply with quote  

Pretty interesting vidio,unfortunatly,my virtually infallible broadband connection keeps going south!!!!!!!
What could POSIBLY BE UP WITH THAT!?
guess I'll hav ta buy the books
jim
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PostMon Feb 11, 2002 4:14 am  Reply with quote  

FLK, I haven't actually read his books either. Just information on his website and others that carried some of his writings, so I can't recommend any of his books. As for Satan crawling on his belly the rest of his days, I think that referred more to his lowered position in the kingdom of God rather than his physical state. He is, however, a consummate shape-shifter. Supposedly he can take many forms and he can still appear as an "angel of light" if he wants to. Deception is the name of his game. In that sense, Icke is right on target. There's a lot of that going on.
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PostMon Feb 11, 2002 12:28 pm  Reply with quote  

From Hegelian Principle


"A 3-step process authored by Hegel and perfected by the Marxist/Leninists: Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis. The first step (thesis) is to create (or fabricate) a problem. The second step (antithesis) is to generate opposition to the problem (fear, panic, hysteria). The third step (synthesis) is to offer the solution to the problem in step 1 - change which would have been impossible to impose on the people without the proper psychological conditioning achieved in stages 1 and 2."


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PostMon Feb 11, 2002 12:48 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by Scanner:
I’ve been thinking…a dangerous prospect…does it seem like events are starting to follow a pattern? First there’s some sort of “event” closely followed by chaos and disinformation. Then the government jumps in and institutes all sorts of programs and changes. Of course, the most recent and the most obvious case in point is the 9/11 disaster followed by Homeland Security, the current "war" and the beginning of our loss of privacy. It looks as if we may have another scenario going with the Enron fiasco. It appears the government is going to use this as a springboard for all sorts of financial reforms that look good on the surface, just like the Homeland Security deal, but could lead to some unforeseen and unwanted problems.

There have always been incidences…political, military, financial…where the government has taken the opportunity to justify their actions.



Gene Wheaton calls Shackley's Third Option the "operational manual" for the covert intelligence "lunatic fringe." This same lunatic intelligence crowd, states Wheaton, "as far back as the early 1980s, wanted to create a domestic terrorist threat in America so the people would become so frightened that they would give up some civil liberties and Constitutional rights, and give the CIA and Pentagon covert operators major domestic counter-terrorism powers."

As Wheaton writes:

The Third Option is not to have peace in the world, and not to have a full-scale world war. Instead, they wanted to cause worldwide instability, chaos and civil unrest in order to manipulate and control people and governments, including the United States; thus the creation of the domestic terrorist threat.[1228]

Notice that Wheaton calls this the creation of the domestic terrorist threat. Wheaton states what has been known for centuries by the so-called "enlightened ones" — the Illuminati, the Masons, the Rhodes Round Table, and their successors: the CFR, the Bilderbergers, and the Trilateral Commission — that out of chaos will come order (Ordo Ab Chao. )[1229]

Otherwise known as the "Hegelian Principle," this is the technique by which a normally repugnant idea (in this case a totalitarian police-state) is offered as the only viable solution to a intractable problem (in this case domestic terrorism), deliberately engineered by the state itself. As New American editor William Jasper notes:

…history is replete with examples of ruthless and corrupt politicians who have shamelessly exploited and manipulated tragic events and the criminal acts of a few to advance their own lust for power. In cases too numerous to mention, tyrants and aspiring despots have gone even further, engaging agents provocateurs to carry out assassinations, foment riots and rebellion, precipitate financial panics, attempt palace coups, feign foreign invasion, initiate acts of terrorism, and perform other infamous acts — all for the purpose of establishing a mass psychology of fear, a sense of "crisis," of imminent danger requiring the government to suspend normal liberties and seize vast new powers to deal with the "emergency."

Hitler came to power in precisely this manner, by burning down the German Parliament, the Reichstag, then blaming it on his enemies — in this case, the Communists. He then passed the Enabling Act (a form of anti-terrorism bill) for the "protection of the people and the state."

History is now repeating itself. As Adam Parfrey writes in Cult Rapture:

By definition, a terrorist must take credit for his violence, or else there is no compelling reason to commit a crime. The specific purpose of terrorism is gaining leverage on a specific political objective through the ability of threatening future terrorist acts. No one has claimed credit for the Oklahoma City bombing. Militia groups produced particularly vehement public statements condemning the crime.

"If the bombing was not terrorism," asks Portland Free Press editor Ace Hayes, "then what was it? It was pseudo-terrorism, perpetrated by compartmentalized covert operators for the purposes of state police power."


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http://www.constitution.org/OCBPT/ocbpt_13.htm



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PostMon Feb 11, 2002 2:09 pm  Reply with quote  

The Bilderberg group makes an interesting albeit frightening read. Just do a google search on those guys! A major piece of TPTS puzzle, that most have never heard of. Thanks for the great post Defender.
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PostMon Feb 11, 2002 4:24 pm  Reply with quote  

Thanks for the great posts all of you. Another troubling aspect is there appears to be two groups (maybe more) vying for control. Getting caught in the crossfire is not a comforting thought. Where are the good guys? Maybe it's like the following thread says:
http://www.indiotrail.org/lessons.htm

WE are the ones we've been looking for.

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PostThu Feb 14, 2002 8:14 pm  Reply with quote  

Since we're on the subject of patterns, does it strike you odd that after all of these years, chemtrails are finally getting mainstream press? Isn't it about time for the government to come out and say something to cover their fannies? They disavowed all knowledge for a long time...guess they figured they'd ride that horse until it got so obvious and created so many questions they had to do something else. Isn't the usual "pattern" the government finally comes out with something...not necessarily the truth...but something that will get everyone off their back? Like maybe saying it deals with "national security" and can't yet be "publically disclosed"? We'll see, I guess. The recent TV coverage was pretty fair.

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