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I’ve been thinking…(usually just gets me in trouble)…maybe smoking would fall under “Thou shalt not kill.” Of course, in this case, you’d be killing yourself as opposed to taking someone else’s life. Heh-heh-heh
Heard on the radio this AM about an enterprising young couple in my area that had a little cottage industry going. They had a bunch of marijuana plants growing in their apartment! Some people would argue that what they were doing in their own apartment was nobody’s business. The difference in smoking cigarettes and smoking (or growing or selling) marijuana is that it is currently illegal. If we made smoking illegal I doubt it would stop the problem. Organized crime would just take over, prices would go up, and people would still find a way to smoke themselves to death. So, does that mean we should make marijuana and/or other currently illegal substances legal? I don’t think so! Those substances are not only unhealthy, they mess with your mind and cause other crimes. Smoking cigarettes is unhealthy for the individual doing it (and maybe others around him) but the currently illegal drugs contribute to crime as well as wreck your health, your finances, and your family. Think I’ll stick to coffee…..and chocolate! 
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3T3L1
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Thu May 02, 2002 10:36 pm
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Hey, somebody just told me that Hubby's name got mentioned on the G. Gordon Liddy show in connection with the Lubbock anti-secondhand smoking ban. Hooray! We're making progress! |
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Lulu
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Fri May 03, 2002 12:48 am
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Right on! |
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3T3L1
Joined: 08 Mar 2001
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Location: Lubbock, Texas |
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Sun May 05, 2002 1:20 pm
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Yesterday was a long day. It took until nearly midnight to count the ballots. I don't know who the Libertarians were polling last week, but we lost the referendum, bigtime. (I'm not a Libertarian myself, but Hubby is and I can see their point on some issues.)
Out of 20,817 total votes cast, the private property rights side took 36.2% and the antisecondhand smoke side took 63.8%. That means that in three years all 18,000 Lubbock businesses will be smokefree, unless the owners want to install completely separate ventilation systems for smoking sections. This will be hard for Jiffy Lubes and beauty parlors, so most businesses don't really have a choice.
I guess this is a defining moment for me. Lubbock is a strongly Republican city. We know that Democrats want big government. If Republicans want big government, too, we're going to get it. Who am I to stand in their way? |
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3T3L1
Joined: 08 Mar 2001
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Location: Lubbock, Texas |
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Sun May 05, 2002 1:32 pm
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I'm not sorry we made the effort, by the way. Teddy Roosevelt's words come to mind, "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." |
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penumbra
Joined: 24 Apr 2001
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Mon May 06, 2002 3:16 pm
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Sorry to hear of the defeat 3T3, I had my fingers crossed.
"We know that Democrats want big government. If Republicans want big government, too, we're going to get it. " I think we've already "gotten it". |
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KrissaTMC2
Joined: 05 Feb 2002
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Location: Greenwich, CT, USA |
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Mon May 20, 2002 1:42 am
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Okla. reignites smoking ban measure
From the National Desk
Published 5/18/2002 12:09 PM
OKLAHOMA CITY, May 18 (UPI) -- State lawmakers in Oklahoma will renew their efforts next week to ban smoking in restaurants without separately ventilated areas.
Gov. Frank Keating, R-Okla., said he would sign the bill. The governor, however, added that getting the bill passed "would take a lot of work."
Under the provisions of Senate Bill 696, which cleared conference committee this week, restaurants could only allow smoking in separate, self-ventilated rooms. Main dining rooms of restaurants would be totally smoke free. The new law would not impact bars that serve only minimal amounts of food.
"The time has come to get serious about the issue of annoying and dangerous second-hand smoke in public places like restaurants," Keating said. "What we are not saying with this bill is that smoking is illegal."
The Senate will hear the bill, which was co-sponsored by Sen. Den Robinson, D-Muskogee and Rep. Ray Vaughn, R-Edmond, before it goes to the House of Representatives for consideration.
If approved the new regulations would take effect July 1, said Robinson.
The governor rejected similar regulations when the Oklahoma Board of Health submitted them earlier this year because they would have violated state law reserving the right of making such restrictions to the Legislature.
Vaughn said he pressed for the measure following the passage of a ban on smoking in the State Capital, and his constituents saying it didn't go far enough.
"I believe the people of Oklahoma don't want to dine in clouds of smoke," he said. "This legislation will take care of that problem."
Oklahoma Restaurant Association officials were unavailable for comment.
A statewide poll conducted last year by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation found that 94 percent of all Oklahoma adults and 85 percent of Oklahoma adult smokers believe that smoking in restaurants should only be allowed in rooms where the smoke in vented to the outside, or not allowed at all.
In a survey released earlier this month, the state Health Department found that tobacco use is epidemic, with 550,000 adult Oklahomans, nearly one on four, currently smoking.
Tobacco use also costs Oklahomans over $2 billion in medical expenses and lost production every year, or an average of about $600 per person.
In the report, Dr. Leslie Beitsch, state Health Department commissioner, argued for protection "for all Oklahomans to prevent involuntary exposure to the damaging effects of secondhand smoke ... by eliminating smoking inside enclosed public places and workplaces."
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=18052002-115609-2964r
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