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RidesTheWind
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Pull up a chair my friends....
 Sun May 06, 2001 1:16 pm
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Just pulled this off of Flash's page this morning.Sit back and get comfy as there seems to be alot to read about.Have a happy Sunday everybody.Being whited out again as I write.It started out a deep beautiful blue day.Makes ya want to scream or do worse. www.geocities.com/area51/shadowlands/6583/weapons.html |
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cydoniaquest
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Sun May 06, 2001 6:12 pm
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Interesting stuff RTW. This little excerpt on EMP effects of a nuclear detonation leads to my theory for the purpose of chemtrails (which is to reflect such incoming radiation from an enemy attack):
Nuclear Weapon EMP Effects
Source: Federation of American Scientists http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm
A high-altitude nuclear detonation produces an immediate flux of gamma rays from the nuclear reactions within the device. These photons in turn produce high energy free electrons by Compton scattering at altitudes between (roughly) 20 and 40 km. These electrons are then trapped in the Earth’s magnetic field, giving rise to an oscillating electric current. This current is asymmetric in general and gives rise to a rapidly rising radiated electromagnetic field called an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). Because the electrons are trapped essentially simultaneously, a very large electromagnetic source radiates coherently.
The pulse can easily span continent-sized areas, and this radiation can affect systems on land, sea, and air. The first recorded EMP incident accompanied a high-altitude nuclear test over the South Pacific and resulted in power system failures as far away as Hawaii. A large device detonated at 400–500 km over Kansas would affect all of CONUS. The signal from such an event extends to the visual horizon as seen from the burst point.
The EMP produced by the Compton electrons typically lasts for about 1 microsecond, and this signal is called HEMP. In addition to the prompt EMP, scattered gammas and inelastic gammas produced by weapon neutrons produce an “intermediate time” signal from about 1 microsecond to 1 second. The energetic debris entering the ionosphere produces ionization and heating of the E-region. In turn, this causes the geomagnetic field to “heave,” producing a “late-time” magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) EMP generally called a heave signal.
Initially, the plasma from the weapon is slightly conducting; the geomagnetic field cannot penetrate this volume and is displaced as a result. This impulsive distortion of the geomagnetic field was observed worldwide in the case of the STARFISH test. To be sure, the size of the signal from this process is not large, but systems connected to long lines (e.g., power lines, telephone wires, and tracking wire antennas) are at risk because of the large size of the induced current. The additive effects of the MHD-EMP can cause damage to unprotected civilian and military systems that depend on or use long-line cables. Small, isolated, systems tend to be unaffected.
Military systems must survive all aspects of the EMP, from the rapid spike of the early time events to the longer duration heave signal. One of the principal problems in assuring such survival is the lack of test data from actual high-altitude nuclear explosions. Only a few such experiments were carried out before the LTBT took effect, and at that time the theoretical understanding of the phenomenon of HEMP was relatively poor. No high-altitude tests have been conducted by the United States since 1963. In addition to the more familiar high-yield tests mentioned above, three small devices were exploded in the Van Allen belts as part of Project Argus. That experiment was intended to explore the methods by which electrons were trapped and traveled along magnetic field lines.
The “acid test” of the response of modern military systems to EMP is their performance in simulators, particularly where a large number of components are involved. So many cables, pins, connectors, and devices are to be found in real hardware that computation of the progress of the EMP signal cannot be predicted, even conceptually, after the field enters a real system. System failures or upsets will depend upon the most intricate details of current paths and interior electrical connections, and one cannot analyze these beforehand. Threat-level field illumination from simulators combined with pulsed-current injection are used to evaluate the survivability of a real system against an HEMP threat.
The technology to build simulators with risetimes on the order of 10 ns is well known. This risetime is, however, longer than that of a real HEMP signal. Since 1986 the United States has used a new EMP standard which requires waveforms at threat levels having risetimes under a few nanoseconds. Threat-level simulators provide the best technique for establishing the hardness of systems against early-time HEMP. They are, however, limited to finite volumes (aircraft, tanks, communications nodes) and cannot encompass an extended system. For these systems current injection must be used.
HEMP can pose a serious threat to military systems when even a single high-altitude nuclear explosion occurs. In principle, even a new nuclear proliferator could execute such a strike. In practice, however, it seems unlikely that such a state would use one of its scarce warheads to inflict damage which must be considered secondary to the primary effects of blast, shock, and thermal pulse. Furthermore, a HEMP attack must use a relatively large warhead to be effective (perhaps on the order of one mega-ton), and new proliferators are unlikely to be able to construct such a device, much less make it small enough to be lofted to high altitude by a ballistic missile or space launcher. Finally, in a tactical situation such as was encountered in the Gulf War, an attack by Iraq against Coalition forces would have also been an attack by Iraq against its own communications, radar, missile, and power systems. EMP cannot be confined to only one “side” of the burst.
Source Region Electro-magnetic Pulse [SREMP] is produced by low-altitude nuclear bursts. An effective net vertical electron current is formed by the asymmetric deposition of electrons in the atmosphere and the ground, and the formation and decay of this current emits a pulse of electromagnetic radiation in directions perpendicular to the current. The asymmetry from a low-altitude explosion occurs because some electrons emitted downward are trapped in the upper millimeter of the Earth’s surface while others, moving upward and outward, can travel long distances in the atmosphere, producing ionization and charge separation. A weaker asymmetry can exist for higher altitude explosions due to the density gradient of the atmosphere.
Within the source region, peak electric fields greater than 10 5 V/m and peak magnetic fields greater than 4,000 A/m can exist. These are much larger than those from HEMP and pose a considerable threat to military or civilian systems in the affected region. The ground is also a conductor of electricity and provides a return path for electrons at the outer part of the deposition region toward the burst point. Positive ions, which travel shorter distances than electrons and at lower velocities, remain behind and recombine with the electrons returning through the ground. Thus, strong magnetic fields are produced in the region of ground zero. When the nuclear detonation occurs near to the ground, the SREMP target may not be located in the electromagnetic far field but may instead lie within the electro-magnetic induction region. In this regime the electric and magnetic fields of the radiation are no longer perpendicular to one another, and many of the analytic tools with which we understand EM coupling in the simple plane-wave case no longer apply. The radiated EM field falls off rapidly with increasing distance from the deposition region (near to the currents the EMP does not appear to come from a point source).
As a result, the region where the greatest damage can be produced is from about 3 to 8 km from ground zero. In this same region structures housing electrical equipment are also likely to be severely damaged by blast and shock. According to the third edition of The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, by S. Glasstone and P. Dolan, “the threat to electrical and electronic systems from a surface-burst EMP may extend as far as the distance at which the peak overpressure from a 1-megaton burst is 2 pounds per square inch.”
One of the unique features of SREMP is the high late-time voltage which can be produced on long lines in the first 0.1 second. This stress can produce large late-time currents on the exterior shields of systems, and shielding against the stress is very difficult. Components sensitive to magnetic fields may have to be specially hardened. SREMP effects are uniquely nuclear weapons effects.
During the Cold War, SREMP was conceived primarily as a threat to the electronic and electrical systems within hardened targets such as missile launch facilities. Clearly, SREMP effects are only important if the targeted systems are expected to survive the primary damage-causing mechanisms of blast, shock, and thermal pulse. Because SREMP is uniquely associated with nuclear strikes, technology associated with SREMP generation has no commercial applications. However, technologies associated with SREMP measurement and mitigation are commercially interesting for lightning protection and electromagnetic compatibility applications. Basic physics models of SREMP generation and coupling to generic systems, as well as numerical calculation, use unclassified and generic weapon and target parameters. However, codes and coupling models which reveal the response and vulnerability of current or future military systems are militarily critical.
Sources and Methods:
Adapted from - Nuclear Weapons Effects Technology Militarily Critical Technologies List (MCTL) Part II: Weapons of Mass Destruction Technologies Engineering and Design - Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) and Tempest Protection for Facilities
NATO HANDBOOK ON THE MEDICAL ASPECTS OF NBC DEFENSIVE OPERATIONS PART I - NUCLEAR
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3T3L1
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Sun May 06, 2001 6:29 pm
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Thanks for the EMP info, Cy. But I'm having a hard time seeing how chemtrails could protect against it.
Source Region Electro-magnetic Pulse [SREMP] is produced by low-altitude nuclear bursts. If the aluminum and/or barium in chemtrails reflects the SREMP, wouldn't that just make the disruptions worse?
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LWR
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Sun May 06, 2001 6:30 pm
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That site istalls Comet Cursor on your computer. It is an ad spyware program that changes 11 registry files and tracks you on the net. It is pesky at best and a total invasion of your privacy at worst. It is damn near impossible to get rid of. There is a progam at Lavasoft, called Ad Aware, it is free and it will go thru your machine and pick out all spyware installed on the computer, from there you can just check off each one and hit clear. You will probably be suprised what is installed and how much of it there may be. It is a diservice and offensive for any site to install that software, Just a word to the wise here. |
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chemtrailsorg
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Sun May 06, 2001 6:41 pm
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Well if they fire up some Nukes to test this theory then we will know for certain.
Reflecting ratiated energy is the prupose of high altitude chemtrails IMHO. The applications I have outlined in my reports are just some of the possible senerios that military planners have no doube figured out for these devices and systems.
I would be willing to bet that new applications will be found for using this system that none of us has hit on yet in our specualtion.
The fall out is something we need to challange if it can be proved that this has been happening all along. I can not see how any of this can be good for us to have in our air or round water.
Aluminum Oxide for instance is a big time dummy down chemical. That is one reason it is used for soda and beer cans I think.
Thorium, and Barium are only worse still.
Also there is the warning to me from Professor Alan Robock, that this is a Terrible idea, and that if the resources or will to do this program wanes in the future then we will have a catastrophic rapid global warming. There is all in all just too much down side to the deployment of this technology and it must be stopped. |
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RidesTheWind
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Sun May 06, 2001 6:42 pm
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Thanks Cy...I see you got to work quickly.
How did you find this out LWR??? Always there is something to be wary of.I will look for the site and install it,then again,who knows what you are installing there.
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LWR
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Sun May 06, 2001 7:06 pm
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I knew it when the cursor icon appeared next to my clock. you will like Ad Aware, it works well and I trust it just fine. The thing is, I choose to use Ad Aware, I DID NOT choose Comet Cursor. That is the big difference. |
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cydoniaquest
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Sun May 06, 2001 7:15 pm
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3TL1 and RTW, that excerpt was from the site RTW provided....warnt no trouble at all!
And to answer your question 3TL1, my theory is that the chemtrail reflective shield would be deployed at a lower altitude, lower than the nuclear burst (upon early warning of a threat). As we know, they can deploy a virtual overcast fairly rapidly. My idea is that an EMP (pulse) would be deflected by the shield away from the ground since the pulse would occur at a higher altitude. This might not prevent all the pulse from getting through, but it might work to save some ground based military electronic infrastructure which is essential for launching a counter attack and maintaining defensive capability.
As I noted, this would only be a last stage in defense, deployed over the United States and allied countries. It is assumed by this point the first layers of a strategic missile defense will have already knocked down most of the enemy missiles before they leave even their own airspace and have a chance to deploy their MIRVed payload containing decoys and chaff (designed to fool our other defensive layers).
If a couple warheads do get through, they are likely to be neutron bombs designed to be detonated at altitude. Hence the need for a reflective layer.
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3T3L1
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Sun May 06, 2001 7:21 pm
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Thanks, Cy. That would mean that they would have to keep spraying us --forever-- so they could just top off the atmospheric load at the last minute. Ugh. |
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cydoniaquest
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Sun May 06, 2001 7:40 pm
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Well I just think that what they are doing now is practice. If you'll notice that on days of high solar radiation or flares, there might be a correlation between heavy chemtrail deployments. This way they could study how much natural gamma radiation and other radiation species are getting through their shield and be able to extrapolate it's effectiveness during an actual EMP blast. Operation Starfish was one such high altitude nuclear detonation test. They've tested before, who's to say the tests aren't on-going? |
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Delphi
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Mon May 07, 2001 6:18 am
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RTW, The article you mentioned at geocities...I found on there also, which shows that chemtrails are not of use or needed for the bomb/em Pulse scenario. So, the chems are for something else, not for such a noble reason. Read Bruce Cathie...he knows that atomic warfare is not even feasible by his research...he says the bomb has to be based on the geometries of space and time, must be geometrically constructed and placed in geo. position in relation to earths surface and activated at a specific time in relation to the geometrics of the solar system. That means that such devices could be able to be precalculated in reference to times and locations before the event. He explains it better than I, but, the gist is, chems aren't for that. hopfully, I got this right...http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3460/bruce.html Blessings, Joanne |
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cydoniaquest
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Mon May 07, 2001 7:51 am
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Don't kid yourself Delphi, A nuke can be exploded anywhere. No special place is required. Modern nuclear warefare will involve aerial explosions of bombs specifically designed to produce directed EMP radiation....and as far as I know, this theory for chemtrails is uniquly mine. How could anyone oppose it yet? |
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Delphi
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Mon May 07, 2001 10:41 am
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RTW, Keep an eye out, things are getting "hinky" again. Maybe after Wednesday, this'll all be "small potatoes"! The "Clowns" think they are "running with the ball again"...they'll get a run for their money "chasing their tails", yes? Bless ya and take care, As always, Joanne Or, I should have said, "Chasing their tales"! |
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