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There Goes One Of The Skeptic's arguments:(Spray plane modif

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cydoniaquest





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There Goes One Of The Skeptic's arguments:(Spray plane modif PostTue May 08, 2001 4:36 am  Reply with quote  

I had an interesting observation
of pictures that LTC posted on the
Chemtrail Hoax site. He posted some
pics of an actual Agent Orange spray
program in Vietnam using modified
spray planes. Obviously,the modifications
can be done, have been done, and are
most likely still being done at
present to allow aircraft to disperse
an aerial spray. It’s not a very
difficult engineering feat as some
of the skeptics (including LTC) have claimed….
so is it really such a
stretch to imagine similar modifications
to faster jet tanker aircraft? The only
real difference between the aircraft
types are the jet engines and a faster cruising speed….
no big deal. Notice the similarity to the known
spray plane dispersal patterns in Vietnam and in Carnicom’s photos:

Operation Ranchhand









The Carnicom pics:









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PostTue May 08, 2001 4:54 am  Reply with quote  

Those pictures are such an indictment it is not funny. That is spraying in any sense of the word. Only a person wanting very hard to believe things are OK would think that is a normal contrail.

The difference between the agent orange spray planes and the new ones is just not that great.

Very telling. What does it take to produce some good evidence? Do we need to have a feature length film or what?
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cydoniaquest





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PostTue May 08, 2001 5:01 am  Reply with quote  

I thought it would be interesting to make this comparison Mike because some of the skeptics have been making the argument that it would be too difficult (if not impossible) to modify current jet tanker aircraft to spray from the wing or fuselage...that it would interfere with the aerodynamic surfaces. Obviously it can be done...and has been done quite effectively.

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PostTue May 08, 2001 5:25 am  Reply with quote  

Cy: Great pics, very damning evidence as to the fact that they've been there and done that. Could you add these to Thermits image database or do you have a web site where they would be posted?

Went to the operation Ranchhand link but didn't find those pics there, where did you find them?

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PostTue May 08, 2001 6:04 am  Reply with quote  

These pics were courtesy of LTC over at Chickie Deb's skeptic board...."chemtrails are a Hoax". (Ironic, isn't it?) These pics are under the thread entitled "Ranch Hand"....but there is no more information there than I've posted here.

Ranch Hand
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PostTue May 08, 2001 1:43 pm  Reply with quote  

Cy, where are all of these pictures of the jet tanker aircraft? You keep showing pictures of anything but tankers! You really must learn about the type of contrail formed by the wing's low pressure area, Cy. That's what is going on in Cliffie's megasprayer pics. The ones you still can't figure out after all of this time. Cy, the wing creates an area of low pressure all by itself. No high G maneuvers are necessary. If the humidity is high enough, the low pressure area will release the water and you will get a wing wide vapor trail. Simple. The high G's will just produce them more easily & with less humidity. It still amazes me that you haven't grasped this!

Have you ever seen the circular vapor trails from the tips of an airplane's propellor or the rotor tips of a helicopter, Cy? What causes them? They are really just wings aren't they?Cliffie's megasprayers would still make the same trails even if they turned the engines off, Cy. Even if they aren't sprayers. That's what you will never understand, I guess.


Looks like this was just a little of the heat you took over there. Do they really believe water vapor is going to hang around for several hours?? Spread out and create an oily appearing haze?

Thanks again for your post.
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PostTue May 08, 2001 3:08 pm  Reply with quote  

Like I said to LTC, I think his vortice argument is the weakest of the bunch. I don't think even they really seriously think all these persistent trails that eventually form an overcast could be caused by wingtip or strake vortices. In my view, this argument borders on the ridiculous.....but I didn't want to use that word for fear of creating another verbal battle and sidetracking the argument.

I don't even think the J-man would go for the vortice/water vapor argument...but who knows.
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