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Anne
Joined: 04 Feb 2001
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The sad thing is that the world sees us, the citizens, in the eyes of the military and government. I believe most people don't want such "measures" and rather our taxes spend on something worthwhile. Most people I talk to want to protect the environment for furture generations, want to keep peace, and not esculate things to war. This administration is doing what they can to provoke war, make Americans "hate" other countries, and ruin the environment. Chaney and Bush are rich men and why in the world do they need more money. I guess it is just POWER!!!! |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Fri May 11, 2001 8:24 pm
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Oh Anne, Anne, Anne, 
We all know Clinton wanted only the best for us....and what a moral upstanding person he was.
But as for GW....my only problem with W is that he seems to be accepting a smaller military and going along with the idea of downsizing and reliance on high tech, over quantity. My own personal opinion is that we should be fervently building our military forces like we were at war right now. We should have Rosie the rivetor out there trading in her nylons for a rivet gun. We should be able to fight 10 fronts. Instead W seems to be throwing out the standard of being able to fight two fronts simultaneously...a long-held standard which Clinton helped to destroy with his incompetence and personal desire to be at the head of a one world government.
W's Policy with the UN is troubling me a bit now at the moment as well. The Republican majority in congress wants to hold back some of the funding for the UN as punishment for their act of rejecting the US from a human rights board. Can you believe those commies would have the gonads to reject us from a human rights board? The United States owns those bastards....without our money, they don't exist.....and they have the arrogance to reject us on the ground of human rights (of all things)while China goes door to door killing every third child born. Congress should not only not fund them partially. Congress should never fund those bastards (with US tax dollars) again! I don't ever remember getting to vote on how my money is spent in this area. Yet Powell and Bush are against the idea of holding back some funding, because we don't want to upset relations with the UN. It should be the other way around...the UN should be worried about upsetting relations with us!
And regarding energy....Bush needs to start drilling immediately for every drop of domestic oil he can find. He's too slow to act on this in my opinion…although I do realize he has tremendous opposition here and has had a budjet he successfully had to sell first. He should open up every natural gas deposit. Lift EPA regulation and Federal taxation on every refinery and all taxes on every drop of gasoline. Bush should immediately get rid of those idiotic and arbitrary gasoline additive requirements like MTBE that do nothing but cost more and harm the environment in other ways.
At the same time, Bush needs to be seeking alternative fuels and ways of generating electricity, and he should be provide incentives for business and to start companies that compete with big oil with clean technologies we all know already exist....And he should send his Department of Justice out there to keep big oil off the backs of the little guy so they can gain a foothold, sort of an Anti-Butch Reno approach. We need to use all domestic oil like it's going out of style.....because it is going out of style anyway....while we establish an alternative energy infrastructure...We need to keep this oil-based economy and infrastructure healthy in the meantime, because change best comes from a position of strength, not of weakness.
My problem with W is not that he is conservative....It's that he is not conservative enough.
I'd say a 20 round clip and a Smith and Wesson for everyone, let's drill in Central Park. Let's blow up the UN and let God sort em out.....Long live the Rednecks!!!! 
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Belle
Joined: 27 Apr 2001
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Fri May 11, 2001 8:51 pm
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cydoniaquest - viva la rednecks!
I do agree that W's chumming up to the UN alarms me. I don't agree that we should be putting weapons in space. |
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afraidofsunlight
Joined: 14 Jan 2001
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Sat May 12, 2001 12:00 am
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FLY THE FLAG!
Confederate battle flag that is.
Or,my personal favorite,the Fort Multrie flag.
LIBERTY
The Don't Tread On Me Flag is appropriate as well.
But if you really want to shock some people,fly the star's and stripe's upside down.
It's a sign of distress.
That's putting it mildly.
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FLKook
Joined: 28 Apr 2001
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Sat May 12, 2001 12:20 am
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I'm not a redneck myself but I married one. Does that count? I enjoy all the redneck pursuits..outdoor lifestyle, guns, fishing, trucks, dogs..can't abide the music though sorry.
CY your last post was dead on. Agree with the whole nine yards, except the blow up the UN part. Couldn't we use some sort of bio or neutron to get rid of the scumbags inside? That's some mighty pricey realestate just to willy nilly go blowin'up.
TPTS will have to pry my S&W from my cold stiff hands. Some poor newbie is going to read this thread and freak out. Sorry, Thermit. |
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Sat May 12, 2001 3:29 am
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Did I hear this right? That the Green Beret has now changed their beret color to black....as in the UN?
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Sat May 12, 2001 4:28 am
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I thought UN was light blue (maybe that's just the helmets)?
I do know there is a big controversy over those Berets being manufactured in China. Imagine the brilliant decision making that went into that one...US soldiers, possibly forced into a future battle with Chinese communists, having to look at the made-in- China label on their own uniform!
That's what happens when you get idiots making decisions in high places. |
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FLKook
Joined: 28 Apr 2001
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Sat May 12, 2001 4:34 am
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I was listening to G. Gordon the other day and he said GW himself recinded the order to make those berets in China. However, he did not repeal the order by the bone head commy lovin' General to make the once covetted well "earned" beret part of standard army issue to every punk who stumbles in to basic.
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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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Sat May 12, 2001 4:41 am
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But Cy, Clinton WAS upstanding...Monica said so!!! "The South shall rise again!"....Should secede from the rest! |
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Sat May 12, 2001 4:46 am
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.......And if anyone should know, it was Monica, Queen of Beret!
LOL
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penumbra
Joined: 24 Apr 2001
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Sat May 12, 2001 1:39 pm
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That's My Bush!! My only problem with Dubya is how closely he resembles his Comedy Central parody.
There are still alot of wonderful people in this country who believe that things should be different, regardless of political affiliation, but I think the sheeple out number us! Gore/Bush...twin sons of different mothers. In my heart I believe in the Faction I and Faction II theory, when looking back at the campaign, it is impossible for me not to see it.
Delphi- Ready to secede whenever you are!
As for oil-drilling, puhleeze. Last year there was a kid who modified his old VW Rabbit to run on used canola oil that he collected from local restaurants. Cost less than a dollar a gallon, and the emmissions were less harmful. And didn't ya hear about the guy in France who figured out how to run a car on air? Plus I believe that we've had the technology to double our gas mileage for years. Greed, politics, greed, politics. Solar, wind, hydropower, geothermal. Cold Fusion.
In the immortal words of Peter Tosh, " I don't want no peace, I need equal rights and justice" |
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RidesTheWind
Joined: 27 Feb 2001
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Sat May 12, 2001 3:45 pm
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Gotta agree with you on that one Pen...They say the critical mass thinkers in our corner have finally made the transition happen to our side, so I think we will all be watching alot of shadowland crashing and burning on a daily basis. I truly believe we are gaining the upper hand here.  |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Sat May 12, 2001 4:33 pm
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Penumbra,
There are no similarities between GW and Gore. I always notice when people make these types of statements they never offer specifics. They never offer reason, logic or examples based on fact.
As for oil-drilling, puhleeze. Last year there was a kid who modified his old VW Rabbit to run on used canola oil that he collected from local restaurants. Cost less than a dollar a gallon, and the emmissions were less harmful. And didn't ya hear about the guy in France who figured out how to run a car on air? Plus I believe that we've had the technology to double our gas mileage for years. Greed, politics, greed, politics. Solar, wind, hydropower, geothermal. Cold Fusion.
I agree that there are plenty of wonderful sources of alternative energy out there. My favorite is ethanol, (corn alcohol). But let's talk specifically how to switch an economy over. We can't just drop every thing and tool up the alcohol plants by next Wednesday. We've still got an entire economic infrastructure completely dependent on oil! This is the reality GW has to contend with. If we let the cost of oil and gasoline and diesel sky rocket due to not keeping up with the supply and demand curve or foreign manipulation....we risk hurting or destroying the entire US economy and making ourselves vulnerable to foreign enemies. If the farmer and truck driver are paying 4.00 per gallon of diesel....guess who they pass that cost onto?
This is why I say that the best way to change is from a position of strength. This concept is also true of negotiation and keeping the peace. Always from a position of strength, not weakness and desperation (as the liberals would have us operating) is the best policy. We need to have a healthy, self reliant economy first, before we can work on a gradual transition...so the first priority must be to address the supply curve of domestic oil and gasoline. We make sure this basic economic foundation of oil is plentiful and cheap, THEN we work on gradually switching the economy over the right way. We are probably going to run out of oil in 40 years anyway, even less as the third world countries and the sleeping giant of China become increasingly industrialized oil consumers,...I therefore see no reason to conserve, if the idea is to transition over anyway. Let's keep oil plentiful and our economy healthy while we do it though.
What's the point of going to an alternative fuel, if we destroy America's economy and loose our freedom and cars in the process? Alternative energies abound..but transitioning an infrastructure to run on them, is another thing altogether.
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penumbra
Joined: 24 Apr 2001
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Sat May 12, 2001 6:54 pm
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cydoniaquest - the similarities between Bush/Gore are striking to say the least. Age, SAT scores, groomed to be leaders, elite. Not to mention the way they agreed on practically every topic during the debates. I think that is one of the reasons the election was so close. Nothing really made either one of them STAND out. I'm not saying that they are identical, but their respective differences would have very little impact on the average Joe. Our government is out of control! Anyone who truly cares about what is happening in this country needs to look for results and stop pointing fingers at the "other guy". (fighting from a position of weakness and desperation) It's what tHeY want. Divide and conquer, I'll have to agree with Mr.Sux on that. Same with Chemtrails, we all have ideas about what the purpose is, our position of strength lies in the fact that we all want it to stop.
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