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Mech
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Just as I thought Seeker.
You still deny the truth. |
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theseeker
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 3:27 am
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no I have not answered your Q...I was too tired last night...well that and lorie dhue and donna feducia BOTH had short leather skirts on...
being a male lesbian I take these things in a higher priority...
I catch ya later on the Q....
so rainhearts a commie eh ?
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Mech
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:14 am
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Seeker...STOP labeling people.
Just WHAT makes Rainheart a "commie"?
My friend who has a Masters in psychology studied for a while at the University of Moscow and he was born and raised in Boise, ID...does that make him a "commie". I don't think so.
Also...I don't want to hear about your depraved leather fantasies...AT ALL.Okay?
Just answer the question. |
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Molliani
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:59 am
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[QUOTE]
Originally posted by rainheart:
[We've been duped big time. All of us. What's scary is that the true intentions of the evil overlords are coming to the forefront.]
Well said Rainheart.
veritatis simplex oratio est:
The language of truth is simple.
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Proud Veteran
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:00 am
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Don't ya just hate being a lesbian trapped in a mans body |
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Mech
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:08 am
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Okay...
People who call themselves so-called "patriots" would rather talk about Lesbians than the Violation of Posse Comitatus.
I see right through you.
Keep wavin' that slave made plastic desecrated American flag.
While all of our jobs go TO CHINA.
I guess you like to watch the USA turn into the next USSR. Stalin would be proud.
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rainheart
Joined: 03 Oct 2001
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:58 am
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Collins English Dictionary
commie - informal and derogatory, short for communist
communist - 1. a supporter of any form of communism
communism - 1. advocacy of a classless society in which private ownership has been abolished and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community 2. any social, economic, or political movement of doctrine aimed at achieving such a society. ... 5. (Chiefly US) any leftist political activity or thought, esp when considered to be subversive. 6. communal living communalism.
Hey, thanks for the compliment. but if i had to choose for the sake of having a label then i'd pick
anarchist - 1. a person who advocates the abolishion of government and a social system based on voluntary cooperation
but that definition doesn't do justice to the root meaning of anarchy - without a ruler
we all need a dream, in the meantime i'm gonna work with those close to me to build autonomous associations, community organizations and movements that operate on the foundations of TRUE peace and justice.
The pay sucks though, can anyone spare a dime. 
rainheart
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theseeker
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:56 am
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no compliment there old girl...
anarchist - 1. a person who advocates the abolishion of government and a social system based on voluntary cooperation
but that definition doesn't do justice to the root meaning of anarchy - without a ruler
anarchists I have experience with...I can't understand how no direction no future is an inspiration to some folks...
anarchists offer no solution...only chaos...
you won't find the abundance of anarchist here (U.S) as with other countries...most people have things here worth fighting for...God help the anarchist on my property...or in my way...
the real definition is :
an·ar·chy
n. pl. an·ar·chies
Absence of any form of political authority.
Political disorder and confusion.
Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose
you were right however on the "without a ruler" quote...
to add, how do you measure....with out a ruler....
probably a little deep for ya...
won't waste anymore time with you...since your going nowhere...I won't tag along...
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rainheart
Joined: 03 Oct 2001
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 8:15 am
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sweet, first a compliment and now you won't have anything more to do with me. that's what i love about voluntary participation.
live and let live!
seeker, for a young punk, you're OK. happy trails. |
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theseeker
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Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:45 am
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I'm kinda fickle about issues I discuss...no offense...some have said people argue to convince themselves...I feel anarchy is a moot point, not worthy of argument...so I will not argue...
MECH...just waking you up...
First of all..Pentagon Police are part of the Military. It is a violation of Posse Comitatus to have them stomping around Arlington.
a blurred line, territorialy speaking...not a problem...
Secondly... to have Law Enforcement agencies moving towards erasing jurisdictions is a violation.
I'd like to read more about that...everything cannot be federal...FEMA's authority has to begin with the declaration of a "govenor's request"....period...
this is being blurred :/
You want more more proof...or are you going to turn a blind eye?
of course...and never...
when I say suspension of P/C I'm looking at a period over a month...natural disasters, future chem/bio attacks...or the dreaded "pandemic" conditon as some are implying with SARS...which is serious,but yet to manifest as another world killer...stuff like that, these days really should not take more than a month. ..at 32 days without sufficient explanation...I will begin to bitch...
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rainheart
Joined: 03 Oct 2001
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Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:18 am
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theseeker,
I agree that anarchy is nothing to argue about, and indeed IS a moot point.
moot - 1. subject or open to debate: a moot point. ~vb. 2. to suggest or bring up for debate
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theseeker
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Sun Apr 06, 2003 5:21 am
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moot - adj :
Of no practical importance; irrelevant.
always read thoroughly....
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rainheart
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Sun Apr 06, 2003 6:13 am
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Websters Illustrated Dictionary - 1959
moot - adj. Debatable, as, a moot question
your dictionary http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/m/m0415900.html
moot - adj.
Subject to debate; arguable: a moot question.
Usage Note: The adjective moot is originally a legal term going back to the mid-16th century. It derives from the noun moot, in its sense of a hypothetical case argued as an exercise by law students. Consequently, a moot question is one that is arguable or open to debate. But in the mid-19th century people also began to look at the hypothetical side of moot as its essential meaning, and they started to use the word to mean "of no significance or relevance." Thus, a moot point, however debatable, is one that has no practical value. A number of critics have objected to this use, but 59 percent of the Usage Panel accepts it in the sentence The nominee himself chastised the White House for failing to do more to support him, but his concerns became moot when a number of Republicans announced that they, too, would oppose the nomination. When using moot one should be sure that the context makes clear which sense is meant.
so, i guess we're both correct.
now back to the topic...
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/GeorgeWBush2.html
Blow out waiting to happen?
When a person feels frustrated and beset upon, but they are afraid to directly deal with the source of the problem, pent-up rage can build, sometimes leading the person to "strike out" and "do something irrational" to try to relieve the pressure....
This can be "understandable" for a child or other object of "adult" power. But for The President of The United States to seem to have such problems gives cause for concern "what he might do sometime" -- like maybe throw a thermonuclear temper tantrum....
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theseeker
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Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:05 am
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I'm curious how did you know that was the reference I was using ?
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rainheart
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Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:53 am
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old jedi mind trick
"GEORGE W. BUSH BLEW UP FROGS"
MIDLAND, Texas ANIMAL PEOPLE, July/August 2000
An alert for American voters and humane educators everywhere appeared on May 21 in the 61st through 64th paragraphs of a 76-paragraph NEW YORK TIMES feature on the childhood of Republican candidate for U.S. president George W. Bush -- if anyone noticed.
«One of the local rituals for children,» reported Nicholas D. Kristof of Life in Midland, Texas, when George W. was a boy, «were meetings with cookies and milk at the home of a nice old lady who represented the SPCA. The cookies were digested more thoroughly than the teachings.»
«`We were terrible to animals,' recalled [Bush pal Terry] Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush borne turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out. `Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them,' Throckmorton said. `Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.'»
Kristof made plain that «we» explicitly included George W. Bush, and that George W., the Safari Club International «Governor of the Year» in 1999 for his support of trophy hunting, was the leader among the boys who did it.
George W. Bush, 54, apparently learned hunting and alleged sportsmanship the National Rifle Association way, from his father, former U.S. President George H. Bush. NRA vice president Kayne Robinson boasted at a members-only meeting in early 2000 that Bush, if elected, would be «a president where we work out of their office.»
That got some attention, along with the role of NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre in raising $250,000 at a recent Republican Party fundraiser honoring Bush, and the Bush record as Texas governor of signing bills allowing people to carry concealed handguns and take guns to church, and barring cities from suing gun-makers.
Yet no one, not even Representative Tom Lantos (D-California), raised with reference to Bush the character issue implicit in having recreationally shot and blown up frogs -- or talked about the failure of humane education to dissuade Bush from cruelty which must have been known by his famous father, as the evidence would have been hard to conceal.
On May 25, however, Lantos and 20 other Representatives showed that they should've recognized the character issue by introducing House Concurrent Resolution 338. The Resolution, according to Lantos' press release, urges «greater attention to identifying and treating individuals who are guilty of violence against animals because of the link between abuse of animals and violence against humans. In addition, it urges federal agencies to further investigate the link between cruelty toward animals and violence against humans.»
Offered Lantos, «It is commonsense knowledge that any individual who harms animals cruelly and deliberately is not otherwise well-adjusted. A man who abuses the family dog or cat may turn that violence on his spouse or children. Those children involved in school shootings weren't just `having fun' or `just being boys' -- they were engaged in torturing and hurting animals. As a society, we cannot overlook the fact that a person who hurts animals is committing an act of violence and may eventually turn on human beings.»
But the only people George W. Bush is known to have had a part in killing were the 135 convicts whose executions he has authorized during his five-and-a-half years as Texas governor. Bush mocked the executed killer Karla Fae Tucker's plea for her life in a falsetto, and reportedly giggled when asked by a journalist how he could send the executed Gary Graham to die, when Graham's court-appointed attorney was judicially admonished for sleeping through much of his trial.
DOPPELGANGER? If accused serial killer Robert Yates, 48, of Spokane, Washington, had been caught and convicted in Texas, be might have been among those whose killing by lethal injection Bush approved.
If Bush and Yates had been closer in age and geography, they might have been friends, sharing their love of church, baseball, and -- especially -- using their guns to kill small animals. Instead Yates grew up in Oak Harbor, Washington. An April 26 investigative report on Yates' youth by Jessie Stensland of the WHIDBEY NEWS-TIMES and SOUTH WHIDBEY RECORD buried mention of Yates' hunting in the l7th paragraph of 21.
Like George W. Bush, Yates evidently graduated to trophy hunting. But instead of blasting exotic species on Texas hunting ranches, be allegedly hunted young suspected prostitutes. He allegedly terrorized them, robbed them, and shot at least 18 of them at close range with a handgun. Yates shares his background as a teenaged hunter not only with George W. Bush but also with at least 42 other adults and 35 teens who have been charged with murder in recent years, whose hunting backgrounds have surfaced -- albeit often just barely -- in news coverage of their alleged crimes.
The WHIDBEY NEWS-TIMES and SOUTH WHIDBEY RECORD did not publish a letter by ANIMAL PEOPLE editor Merritt Clifton citing the statistics; discussing the traits that studies have found are often shared by hunters, serial killers, and child abusers; and noting that early involvement in legal sport hunting -- not just illegal animal torture -- also was in the reported backgrounds of convicted school massacre perpetrators Luke Woodham, Andrew Golden, Mitchell Johnson, Kip Kinkel, Michael Carneal, Barry Loukatis, and Evan Ramsey.
Press, public, and politicians who are just barely beginning to recognize the link between illegal violence against animals and violence against humans remain far from understanding the distinction between the inhibition about getting caught that discour |
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