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FLKook
Joined: 28 Apr 2001
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Let's talk about voting for Ron Paul!
 Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:39 pm
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This is the man I'll vote for. Let's convince him he has a chance! See letter of petition below.
Visit http://www.paul2004.com/index.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/Paul2004/
To: the Honorable Ron Paul
Sir, we come to you as very concerned American Patriots.
First of all, we want you to know that we have the greatest respect for you and your insistence on doing the right thing in support of freedom. You have been one to show America that there is still a glimmer of hope for generations to come.
It is our faith in America's future, and the facing of the harsh realities of the past, that brings us to you, Sir. America needs Ron Paul at the helm.
We realize that you currently intend to focus on your reelection as representative to Congress from the 14th District of Texas. Still, we share the hope of many Patriots that you will eventually, and hopefully soon, choose to be America's candidate of choice for President in the 2004 election.
Rather than telling us No, we ask that you allow us to rally a base of support for a campaign for your Presidency.
Many of us are trying to bring the 3rd parties for freedom together to choose and support a common candidate. That is the purpose of the United America Party and Patriot Alliance, for example.
The idea of you running for President would set the Patriot Movement on fire, and could help unite a divided movement. We believe the support needed to elect Ron Paul President is here.
The signatures below from this petition, as well as from others that may be drafted among the various parties and organizations, can help provide evidence that the grassroots support needed to get you elected as President does indeed exist.
We also offer to you the independent website Paul2004.com in support of your candidacy for the White House. When you decide to accept our offer, we will gladly turn the website over to you and your official campaign staff.
There are many of us standing at the ready to do what needs done to get the 3rd Parties heavily involved to get Ron Paul elected President in 2004. We also anticipate that many from the Republican Party, as well as many who do not affiliate with any party, will gladly support your candidacy.
In locations where we are not able to get you on the official ballot, we will promote a write-in campaign.
We await your affirmative reply, but meanwhile we will gladly work to show you the level of support you have.
As we said before...America needs you -- as President.
Let's surprise them.
Unless you say no, or unless a more qualified candidate steps forward (It is hard for us to imaging that this could be the case), we will be voting for you in both the primary election and general election in 2004, whether you are on the ballot, or whether we submit your name as a write-in.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:03 pm
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I once campaigned for a guy called poppy.
He lost in a primary to Ron Paul (something about his son's blatent cocaine abuse)
I then campaigned for Ron Paul, and respected him up until the unconstitutional 'patriot act' was passed.
He had cried wolf all through the Clinton years, and warned constantly how Slick was bringing a police state.
But, when a member of his own party canceled the Writ of Habeus Corpus, suspended the Bill of Rights, and ignored the Constitution,
Ron Paul mildly posted on his website "America is going in the wrong direction"
If Ron Paul could put his partisan politics aside, and face the truth,
I could support him like I supported Pat Buchannon in 2000.
Could finance his campaign like I helped finance an attempt to honestly count all votes in 2000.
Right now;
Ron Paul still supports one party rule, and stupidly seems to think an (R) next to a name turns a criminal into a saint.
When he begins to deal with a full deck (whole truths not RW half truths) I will again donate my time and money to support him.
He has potential, but lacks courage to oppose lies from his own side.
A cowardly lion, who just needs to stand up for whats right, instead of what's rightwing.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by shatoga on 03-19-2003] |
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FLKook
Joined: 28 Apr 2001
Posts: 710
Location: East Central Florida |
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Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:09 am
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I have heard a couple of negatives about him, primarily that he backed out of a Redress of Grievances meeting with WTP http://www.givemeliberty.org a while back.
That was uncool. I'll have to do so more digging but it still seems he's the closest thing to a constitutionalist we have right now. Probably a moot issue, so far he's not interested in running. |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:54 pm
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If one can only support someone with an (R) next to his/her name;
1. Oliver North
(my personal favorite- I asked him to run in 1996, and believe only he could have beat Clinton that year)
2. John McCain
(Reagan Democrats can get fooled again & McCain is just the guy to do it!)
3. Liddy Dole
(If the media can supress the truth about her/ she cancelled Carter's Air Marshall Program- making 9/11 possible- she is the person who stuck us all wearing seatbelts and motorcyclists wearing crash helmets- definitely not in favor of personal freedom-
Red Cross AIDS infected blood and missing funds would also need to be suppressed- but hey! They suppressed the truth about our dear dubya.)
Want a real Constitutionalist?
Willing to put America first and politics last?
Senator Bryan Dorgan was the only Senator to vote against the unconstitutional USA Patriot act's suspension of the Constitution & Bill of Rights (& specific repeal of the Writ of Habeus corpus in violation of
>THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
Article I
Section 9.
The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.<
Grounds sufficient to impeach Bush right there.
He signed that unconstitutional act and violated his oath of office.
(even Catholic priests lie about sex/ willfull violation of the oath of office is much worse than getting a Fallwell from Monica)
>The Presidential Oath of Office
The oath to be taken by the president on first entering office is specified in Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.<
http://www.senate.gov/~dorgan/
http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/s102501.html
Why we are at war, by one honest reporter: http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,47051,00.html
Hey!
They sure took this truth site down: http://www.wartimeliberty.com
Is that the sound of jackboots outside the door?
[Edited 2 times, lastly by shatoga on 03-21-2003] |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:28 am
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Ron Paul was the only Republican House member with the integrity to vote against the resolution to support the BushWar.
If he continues to put America first and party second.
He could get my support.
McCain just embarassed himself in the debate according to the clip shown on
The McLaughlin Group http://www.mclaughlin.com/thisweek/thisweek.asp
>Very few of the world's big players are siding with President Bush's plans for war with Iraq. But the commander in chief presses on in what will surely be the biggest gamble of Bush's presidency, launching a war without direct provocation. Such a war, say most, is without precedent in American history.<
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Mech
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Location: THE 4th REICH USA |
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Wed May 07, 2003 1:52 am
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Ron Paul for Prez. 2004! |
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Molliani
Joined: 16 Mar 2001
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Wed May 07, 2003 8:34 am
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"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin
February 7, 2000 NA (Network America) e-wire
One National Party Has it Right
Let the record show that in February, 2000 only one nationally recognized political party in the USA has a proper plank on conducting honest and verifiable elections. That party is the Constitution Party. Here is the most relevant part of that plank adopted for the Constitution Party Platform over Labor Day Weekend, 1999 in St. Louis, Missouri:
"In order to avoid election fraud, we urge an end to electronic or mechanical voting processes, and urge a return to the manual counting process overseen by, and accountable to, voters resident in each precinct where the votes are cast." End of quote
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halva
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 513
Location: Greece |
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Wed May 07, 2003 11:59 am
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Why not start looking at the experience of the Social Forums that are being set up all over the world by the movement against neo-liberal globalism.
The social forums are not a ready-made solution. They should be thinking harder (particularly in Europe, where things could start moving) about gaining recognized constitutional status.
Also they are still not taking issues like Geoengineering (chemtrails) on board, but they could be shamed into doing so if enough local councils start recognizing the existence of the phenomenon.
Chemtrail activists should starting getting involved with the movement against neo-liberal globalization, even if there are political obstacles. The present liberal stranglehold on the movement can be broken. |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Wed May 07, 2003 8:49 pm
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Halva,
If you were also opposed to neo-conservative globalism;
we would be in total agreement.
How could a liberal like Oprah and a conservative like Bill Bennett both speak in favor of the NWO?
They both speak it on FOX (FAUX)
the voice of the NWO!
sold out is sold out
(no matter which side was betrayed)
[Edited 1 times, lastly by shatoga on 05-07-2003] |
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halva
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 513
Location: Greece |
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Wed May 07, 2003 9:34 pm
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The word "liberal" has a different meaning in Europe. It means something like "believer in the magic hand of the market".
But it makes no difference whether one is against liberals or against conservatives.
These social forums are springing up, in most parts of the world. They are overly influenced by ideologues who are tunnel-visioned in some ways, but in my opinion could be got to take a position on chemtrails if there was enough movement at the level of local government and among people less "politically" motivated.
And that would make the mainstream political establishment start to pay attention.
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