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LWR
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Thank you Lulu |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Tue May 13, 2003 6:07 pm
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maybe suckin eggs could tell us more about that auto-loading virus at his/her website ?
btw, when there is a sars vaccine, I encourage you to follow your own advice...and not take it... |
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suckingeggs
Joined: 28 Mar 2003
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Tue May 13, 2003 10:05 pm
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Seeker why are you lying about an auto load virus on my sites?
As previously mentioned Jay Reynolds in his paranoia went to my moonfruit site that is a FLASH enabled website and it downloads in flash before it is ready. All moonfruit sites do this.
Don't debunk youself seeker that will lead to other drugs, although I do agree with your comment about not taking the vaccines, unless you want another implant to go with your wernke programes :-(
Which is the new vaccine for SARs? |
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halva
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
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Location: Greece |
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Wed May 14, 2003 10:26 am
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Mark, there is a huge information overload in your postings and we are already way ahead of the consciousness of the many ordinary people still in existence in this world who assume that those around them are like themselves and trustworthy.
That is not in itself an argument that you should not be putting up the information.
However, you have so far unqualifiedly endorsed the statements of Ken Adachi, not only the information content but also presumably his judgements of others, including the following statement about Brian Holmes and his contribution:
"The most cunning disinfo is disseminated by a fellow (whose father was career military and seems to exhibit that slightly skewed, peculiar behavior you tend to see with mind controlled people) with a Chemtrails 'information' web site who has been pushing a very lengthy "Chemtrails Report" for a couple of years that wants you to arrive at the conclusion that Illuminati's Edward Teller is trying to save us all with sun screens and radar protection from those nasty terrorists (whoever thay might be)."
Do you want to defend Ken Adachi in his saying this about Brian Holmes?
If your analysis about mind control is leading you to such conclusions you should start thinking more about what you are saying and doing.
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suckingeggs
Joined: 28 Mar 2003
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Wed May 14, 2003 2:15 pm
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Wayne,
The subject of this thread is disinfo. Now the information was sent directly to me and Ken has ran it on his site. I cannot speak for his comments. It is just an experiement about disinfo and finding the truth.
Sorry if you find my post too info laden, trying to work out the BS and the real is hard work. |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Thu May 15, 2003 5:33 am
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Because $eeker loves:
A website which > has less credibility than what mech posts...
smirk<
Visit the Website: http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/index.htm
(excerpts only)
>Special update on the link between chem trails and SARS: about a year ago i was asked by Clifford Carnicom to be on Alex Merklinger's Mysteries of the Mind international radio show to discuss chem-trails in light of possible weather alteration (HARP) and electromagnetic radiation on humans (Alex's archives are found at www.myteriesofthemind.com ... also note i was Alex's guest on this past Wednesday 04/09/2003 with an update on planet x history and my archaeology surveying of Mayan ruins as well as SARS) ... The link between chem trails and SARS has become clear now that both are in the open ... I mentioned to Alex and Clifford on the original show that it seemed odd that the chem trails included barium which is commonly used as a human trace element for many medical procedures ... so add one plus one and get two!!! all the previous chem trail spraying was to 1) perfect the sprayers and 2) perfect the knowledge of how and when to spray and how this would drift down and be ingested by YOU ... yes every time you had a urine or blood sample your information of the barium traces was sent to a central gov lab and statistically analyzed to see how the spraying went into the public ... So now the plan of these psycho lunatics that are working in under the black umbrella of USA Mil Black OPs underground labs and protected by the Mil/CIA NSA boys for the Carlyle group and other new world order core groups are getting ready to release SARS or a similar agent over the world to keep everyone self arrested so to speak while they install your new world government (for your protection) ... I estimate that at least 1000 human guinea pigs had to die in their underground labs for them to perfect the SARS virus to its current state YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK !!! it never ceases to amaze me that some people think that pres George II is some kind of little choir boy<
Visit the Website above for much more.
and specifically on disinformation:
(excerpted from same source as above CT comments;
"Never A Straight Answer)
Visit the Website: http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/index.htm
Planet X and the lunareclipse
>created this date and scenario to actually cause the public panic and chaos in order to then propagate the story of the "crazy planet x people who talk to aliens" to cause 95% of the public to view this as a "crazy" topic ... so when the real issue of the real Planet X arises the public will just say "oh, it's just those crazy planet X people again"<
Visit the Website above for much more.
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Thu May 15, 2003 6:08 am
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trying to work out the BS and the real is hard work.
I'll drink to that eh...$#@#!  |
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
Posts: 1386
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Thu May 15, 2003 6:34 am
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quote:
However, you have so far unqualifiedly endorsed the statements of Ken Adachi, not only the information content but also presumably his judgements of others, including the following statement about Brian Holmes and his contribution:
"The most cunning disinfo is disseminated by a fellow (whose father was career military and seems to exhibit that slightly skewed, peculiar behavior you tend to see with mind controlled people) with a Chemtrails 'information' web site who has been pushing a very lengthy "Chemtrails Report" for a couple of years that wants you to arrive at the conclusion that Illuminati's Edward Teller is trying to save us all with sun screens and radar protection from those nasty terrorists (whoever thay might be)."
Do you want to defend Ken Adachi in his saying this about Brian Holmes?
While I agree completely that Adachi's comments are irresponsible and asinine in the extreme, I don't think they were directed at Brian Holmes. I am familiar with his excellent website and there is no 'very lenghty' report that he could have been 'pushing' for a 'couple of years' over there. Adachi's comments refer to something and someone else, but I've already said as much as needs to be said about all this.
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suckingeggs
Joined: 28 Mar 2003
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Thu May 15, 2003 9:38 am
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The answer to this conundrum is a person called chem 11 a moderator on megasprayer website. He inserted the term illuminati in respect of Teller (I do not know if this is true or not) Not Ken Adachi.
He was only commenting on disinfo and posted what I had sent to him in respect of my post the Great dying and a response to it.
Attacking Adachi is counter productive to what true chemtrail activist are trying to do.
My only comment about the Homestead information is that I found a less comprehensive piece written around the same story that was dated two months before this went live on Brian's site.
http://www.wolfreport.com/letter.htm it does not have the depth of homestead and neither does it have the presentation or the spelling, but it is the same info? |
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
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Thu May 15, 2003 12:22 pm
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quote:
The answer to this conundrum is a person called chem 11 a moderator on megasprayer website. He inserted the term illuminati in respect of Teller (I do not know if this is true or not) Not Ken Adachi.
I'm not sure I understand your post, Suckineggs... but if you're saying I changed the transcript of Adachi's comments, you're wrong. I C&P'd from Adachi's website...
Ahh I see it is has now been changed. Curious... It has also been post-edited at Rense's website... but if you will read LWR's orginal post at the top of this page, you will see that the word "Illuminati' appears there, as well.
Now, did we both decide to insert the same word into the same sentence for reasons unknown? Perhaps we are both under the same MK program, eh? It's either that or... somebody's lying.
You must have been tipped of to the post-edit, Suckin'... it's not the kind of thing that would jump out at a person. I can't imagine what you or Adachi could hope to gain by revising the article and then claiming that *I* altered it (okay, acutally I can.. but I'll stop short of making the same kind of accusations that Adachi does).
In any any case, I don't know how I am the 'answer' to any conundrum. Illuminati or no illuminati, the issue is whether Adachi should be running around insinuating legitmate investigators are mind control victims because he (ostensibly) disagrees with them.
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Attacking Adachi is counter productive to what true chemtrail activist are trying to do.
No, Adachi attacking legimate researchers is what is counter-productive. If you read the post at Mega you will see that he is not only being hostile for whatever reason, he's also being transparently deceptive... I don't call that 'activism'.
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He was only commenting on disinfo and posted what I had sent to him in respect of my post the Great dying
No, he was most specfic. But let me ask you a question... and I'd appreciate a straight answer (in lieu of an apology for this strange and demonstrably false accusation you saw fit to make):
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in respect of my post the Great dying
You're saying that you wrote 'The Great Dying', correct?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Chem11 on 05-15-2003] |
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suckingeggs
Joined: 28 Mar 2003
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Thu May 15, 2003 12:58 pm
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umm the plot thickens.
You are right I have both copies of Ken Adachi's post. One says illuminati (as you and LWH have posted) and the new one does not mention the word?
I was tipped of to visit your comments by Halva and also visited the http://home1.gte.net/quakker/documents/chemtrails_over_america.htm as Halva had told be Adachi was criticising him (quakker), rather than Brian and the Homestead article. Although I do not see Quakker using the term illuminati. I would be interested to know if he is or just by association of the H bomb..perhaps I have just answered my own question!
This came about because I was curious about the nature of the article and I found a copy of it on the lone wolf site. On further investigation I found the original at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chemtrailtrackingusa/message/90260 dated the 27th November 02.
I raised this with Halva about the dates and queried the legitimacy of the post...things did not stack up.
Why am I so interested in this article, well I am Mark Davey and I started this whole thing on a post about disinfo, which was sent to me from a friend  but it was written two years ago and had no reference to Homestead piece, rather the nature of the story etc.
No I am not the author of the great dying, neither the response to it.
Perhaps Brian, Halva, Ken and the original poster of the article should tell us what is going on?
A personal apology to you as I thought you had inserted the term illuminati. I will contact Ken as ask him directly why the term was changed?
regards
Mark.
I would love to see the truth behind this story. |
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halva
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
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Fri May 16, 2003 5:37 am
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Anyway, whatever the details are, the most salient point is that Ken Adachi has been attacking a very useful text, for no good reason.
I got confirmation of its usefulness last Monday, when I took it to the office of a (locally) well-known ecological activist who some years ago moved away from the Green-Eurocommunist milieu to the mainstream (and goveerning) socialists. This was about the time the Green-Eurocoms started developing their weird opinions about the Balkans and who the baddies were there (here).
Anyway, first response to the information is that the person concerned is paying attention. He would not have paid attention if I had taken him something written by Ken Adachi.
That is more significant than the question of whose side the author of the text is on.
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