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Mech
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POLICE STATE USA?
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YOU WILL THUMSCAN AT A CHECKPOINT CITIZEN!!
Police Get Power to Check Prints On The Spot
04/11/2003
http://www.policeone.com/policeone/frontend/parser.cfm?object=News&operation=full_news&id=61781
Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
Portland police may soon be asking for more than a license when making a traffic stop, but also requesting a motorist to stick out a thumb and forefinger.
Next month, more than a dozen officers will carry handheld devices on the street that will allow them to instantly verify a person's identity by analyzing their fingerprints.
The Portland Police Bureau was awarded a $250,000 federal COPS grant to equip each of its five precincts with a device and distribute another 10 to investigative officers in the detective, gang enforcement, drugs and vice, and tactical operations divisions.
The Minnesota-based Identix manufactures the technology, which captures fingerprints at the scene and remotely transmits them to a database. The Portland police will run the prints against the FBI's automated fingerprint database, and a database of seven Western states, known as the Western Identification Network.
If there is a match, the system returns the person's name, date of birth and mug shot directly to the officer's handheld terminal, the size of a Palm Pilot. Then the officer can check the person's criminal history and search for any outstanding warrants.
Manufacturers and police tout the time it could save officers, keeping them from needlessly transporting suspects to a police precinct or jail to fingerprint them.
"With shrinking budgets and shrinking staff, we need to capitalize on emerging technology," said Capt. Greg Hendricks, of the bureau's identification division.
Within a year, the bureau intends to expand the pilot purchase of 15 to more than 300 terminals for all patrol officers, under $650,000 set aside for the Portland police by the U.S. Department of Justice and recently approved by Congress.
The devices will also give officers on horseback, bicycles and motorcycles, who do not have the mobile computer terminals that patrol officers have at their fingertips, the ability to access information on people they stop.
"It speeds up the process for the officer to confirm who they've stopped, and reduces mistaken identities on arrests," said Sgt. Jeff Kaer of the bureau's identification division.
Next week, the bureau has invited representatives from 15 police agencies, sheriff's offices and federal law enforcement in the metropolitan area to learn about the handheld fingerprinting device and gauge if there's interest in integrating them into a regional database that could give officers in the field immediate access to criminal histories on suspects in a four-county region. The counties include Multnomah, Washington, Clackamas and Clark.
"If we integrated this system regionally, all of the agencies could share information with each other," Kaer said. "As you know, crime doesn't stop at the city line."
The City Council is expected to approve the bureau's contract with Identix at its meeting next week.
The same handheld device is also capable of facial recognition, a an emerging technology now used by a number of law enforcement agencies to find wanted criminals whose faces are in databases. Border patrol agencies have used the facial-recognition component to run the faces of people coming into the country against a database of photos of suspected terrorists.
YOU ARE THE TERRORIST CITIZEN!!
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 2:58 am
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If you have nothing to hide what are you worried about |
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Mech
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:21 am
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IT'S CALLED RIGHT TO PRIVACY..
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT 4 STATES.....
"THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS AND EFFECTS AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES, SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED, AND NO WARRANTS SHALL ISSUE BUT APON PROBABLE CAUSE, SUPPORTED BY OATH OR AFFIRMATION AND PARTICULARLY DESCRIBING THE PLACE TO BE SEARCHED AND THE PERSONS TO BE SIEZED."
NO ONE is going to make me THUMBSCAN under "suspicion" sorry...NOT HAPPENING. You'll have to arrest me.And I will sue...sue...sue.
Mabye you like living in a police state.PV.
I don't...it's not American.
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increase 1776
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:24 am
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Proud Veteran Should we just toss the Constitution in the trash? |
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Proud Veteran
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:33 am
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Obviously you both have something to hide |
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shatoga
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:39 am
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Sorry,
Neo-con buddies tell me:
that "Bush White House- toilet paper"
"Bill of Rights printed on every sheet"
has sold out.
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Mech
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:52 am
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Unlike you PV...I don't put my trust in a corrupt government...thinking they will do the right thing. If you want to put your personal data and private life into the hands of the Feds...you go for it.
You never know when someone might not like what YOU are doing PV. Could be something real simple....something you didn't think of.
Be careful who you put your faith and trust in.
You betray your oath for something insidious and wholly evil.
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theseeker
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:24 am
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I can see both sides here...and agree with both as well...
my perspective is way more simplistic than the patriot act...
agencies do their respective F'n jobs...
ALL non-citizens will not have the benefit of any constitutional protection...period...
so all this sneek and peek tap phones search homes stuff would only apply to non-citizens...which is ok by me....
I have been stopped at check points before...no big deal cause I knew the folks doing the stopping...but if your in a hurry and get stopped,or just for some reason you don't have the time and don't need the hassle,and they stop you, thus preventing your "free and un-encumbered travel" in these United States...well that's not what this "promised land" is all about... |
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Fastwalker
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:02 pm
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I like Seeker's idea...but the police state thing is more Alex Jones crapola. If anything, I've noticed the police are never around when you need em....in fact, I haven't even come into contact with police, even for a ticket, in a couple of years....Was doing 85 last night and had a cop pass me doing 100, and didn't even give me a warning. Mech's police state is still in the realm of fantasy, I think. Illegals shouldn't have the same rights I have though....human rights yes....but all the things that Mech is afraid of SHOULD be done with illegals, and potential terrorists who's visas expire....I think these are the people that the patriot act was designed to go after anyway. |
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Mech
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:20 pm
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Fastwalker doesn't have a clue....He is still living in leave it to beaver 1950's la la land.
YOUR KIDS WILL EYE SCAN AT SCHOOL
GETTING THEM INTO THE DATABASE
THEY ARE THE TERRORISTS
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5208-2003Apr21.html
N.J. Schools Testing Eye Recognition
PLUMSTED, N.J. - The biggest security breach in recent memory in this small central New Jersey school district happened when a parent forgot to sign in at the office before delivering cupcakes to a child's classroom.
So it was somewhat of a surprise when the Plumsted district's three schools became the test site for a cutting-edge eye recognition security system designed to keep out strangers.
"We're an appealing test site because we are a small community where everybody knows everybody," said Michael Dean, the schools' technology coordinator. "We're taking a rural town and asking, `What is John Q. Public's perception of this technology? What is people's comfort level - is this easy to use?'"
The iris scanning technology will be used to identify employees and those authorized to pick up children in the 1,800-student district. Anyone else will have to show ID before being allowed in. Students themselves will never been screened.
In the wake of shootings and child abductions, schools nationwide have been taking steps to tighten security, from installing metal detectors and video cameras to hiring extra guards.
But iris scanning has never been used in a school, according to Lina Page, director of marketing for Iridian Technologies. The company holds patents on the iris recognition software being used here.
Iris recognition systems use a video camera to record the colored ring around the eye's pupil. More accurate than fingerprints and other biometric markers, iris scanning is considered a nearly foolproof way of identifying people because markings in the iris are unique to each person and do not change as people age.
Plumsted was among some 400 school districts that applied for a grant from the Justice Department for the iris recognition technology. The federal agency is building a database on school security and is using Plumsted as its first data collection.
"The unique thing about our grant is we picked a technology that no one else was doing," said Phil Meara, assistant schools superintendent.
The technology has a wide range of applications. Officials at the Charlotte, N.C., airport recently installed iris recognition systems to identify employees, pilots and flight attendants. And United Nations workers have used it to keep track of Afghani refugees and prevent them from claiming more than their share of aid packages.
Biometrics expert Paul Robertson of TruSecure Corp. in Herndon, Va., said he sees potential benefit in the iris scanning system but questions if it's the best technology for controlling entry to schools.
He cited privacy concerns on behalf of people whose personal data is stored in the schools' system and cautioned against overreliance on a single technology.
More than 300 parents and nearly all the district's teachers and staff volunteered for Plumsted's two-month pilot project that began earlier this month. Pictures were taken of their eyes, and the images were stored in a computer database.
If the iris image in the database matches that of the person seeking entry to the school, the school door automatically unlocks. Members of the project's control group, meanwhile, must show identification and be buzzed into the school by a staffer.
Wendy Arzt, whose two daughters attend New Egypt Elementary School, lauded the technology as noninvasive and easy to use.
"We're fortunate to live in a small, safe town. But in this day and age, you can't take safety for granted," said Arzt, a substitute teacher taking part in the study.
After the study ends, the Maryland consulting firm 21st Century Solutions will evaluate whether the iris scanning was useful in the schools and conduct surveys to determine people's attitudes about the technology, said Craig Uchida, a researcher with the firm.
The Plumsted board of education will then make the final decision about whether to use the technology.
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Fastwalker
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Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:20 pm
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Mech telling someone they don't have a clue is a little bit like a special-ed flunky telling Einstein he needs to do better at his math.. |
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shatoga
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Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:12 am
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Many party members never felt oppressed in Hitler's Germany.
They were, after all, those whom the Gestapo was protecting
by those 12 million deaths.
They could brush the ashes off their shoulders before entering church...
to be told by their ministers what a fine christian man herr Hitler was...
and how
they alone protected western christian civilization from the godless communists and their allies.
Even after allied soldiers forced them to walk through the death camps;
they still could not believe that
good patriotic conservative christian Nazis
were capable of such evil.
Many still believe the death camps were just a liberal commie lie.
source
former Gauliter of East Prussia
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ChemCaptain
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Wed Apr 30, 2003 2:21 pm
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Does mech read his own articles?
That school (with the eye thing) is a testing area, chose specifically because everybody knows everybody and it's a small town.
They want to find people's reactions to the technology and test the technology out. They aren't accusing any kids of being "terrorist" or and whacky stuff you'd like to believe. |
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Wed Apr 30, 2003 6:15 pm
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Originally posted by Mech:
"Unlike you PV...I don't put my trust in a corrupt government...thinking they will do the right thing. If you want to put your personal data and private life into the hands of the Feds...you go for it."
"You betray your oath for something insidious and wholly evil."
Wake up, your personal and private data is already known to the government if you served in the military like you say you did. That's why I don't believe you for a second, or $#@#! either.
I haven't betrayed the oath I took when I enlisted, ever.
I have never said I trust the government, there is dirty laundry in every administration, and good politicians are few and far between. If I don't like something about the government, I pick up pen and paper and write congressmen, senators, and everyone I can to let my opininon known. They do listen.
I see $#@#! likes to throw big names around but I'll bet he's never once written letters voicing his opinion.
Come to think of it Mech and $#@#! have never answered my question if they are registered voters. ARE YOU BOYS? If you aren't then you have nothing to bitch about. |
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shatoga
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Thu May 01, 2003 3:55 am
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I am the featured liberal in two gulf coast RW "news"papers.
Often by request.
Lt Col North has only once autographed his Iran Contra testimony--
my copy...
blather away..he knows me; my conservative credentials are above question
I was the first person to ask Lt Col Oliver North to run for president.
Because of me a PA Republican Senator still has his job.
Get off your manual's insults.
Real Americans support the US Constitution.
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