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Mech
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 Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:47 pm
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From NEWSMAX? Oh come on!
I see NO Saddam CONNECTION to Al Qaida (CIA ASSET).
The CIA was responsible for building up Al Qaida/Mujahadeen.in the late 70's early 80's.
Iraq was not a threat to the U.S., plain and simple.. now many young men and women are DEAD thanks to Bu$h's LIES...more to come.
Quotable:"This is where you have to laugh. This is where you applaud. Stand up and cheer, for it has been a masterful performance, a rather unprecedented series of major cover-ups and well-orchestrated PR maneuvers and outright fabrications unmatched in recent history. Hell, the epic scale of BushCo's atrocities make Clinton's little oral-sex fixation seem like a jaywalking violation."
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Fastwalker
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
Posts: 832
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Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:04 pm
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Before you move on to more false accusations, Mech, let's address your original false accusation….that is ironically perfectly in sync with the current liberal Democrat demonization campaign as ALL of your arguments always are. Again, show me the words in the President's state of the union address where you say he is lying. Address these comments first. Let's resolve it, and THEN you can move onto other issues. As we see, your policy is always diversion, spam and changing the subject when confronted with truth and trapped with a lie you cannot defend. Here were those comments again. Please address these first before you attempt distraction with other lies;
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CIA officials warned members of the President’s National Security Council Staff the intelligence was not good enough to make the flat statement Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa.
Bush did not make the flat statement that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa.
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(CBS) Senior administration officials tell CBS News the President’s mistaken claim that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa was included in his State of the Union address -- DESPITE OBJECTIONS from the CIA.
This statement is a lie. President Bush did not claim Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa. Read his words. Bush said British intelligence made this claim. British intelligence is STILL making this claim to this day. Bush’s statement was therefore, factually accurate. Where's the lie? Care to try again Mech? So far, you're striking out.
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BU$H'S STATEMENTS WERE LIES!!
Which ones? So far you haven't presented any statements that were lies here.
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Wed Jul 16, 2003 10:32 pm
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Point made that diverting the topic serves the RNC.
OK FW.
Job done as usual.
If Clinton had lied in his SOTU speech and then sent Americans to die overseas based on British Intelligence' lies and manipulation.
Would you support such a stupid President?
Why not just disband the CIA and DIA and NSA
and the other 86 intelligence agencies?
If MI-6 is the ultimate authority,
why spend tax money on all these American fools who disagree with the MI-6 fradulent claims?
Why support anyone so stupid as to squander American lives because his British masters have tricked him into invading a sovereign nation for no valid reason?
Yes..all that BS about dictators and genocide aside.
W's logic in that regard would have had US invading Russia in the 1960's and Communist China, Laos, Indonesia, Phillipines, Peru, and many other long before bothering with fleabite Iraq.
Remember it was the so called left, who asked,
"why not invade North Korea?
(instead of Iraq)
"They've admitted to having a nuclear missile program."
If it's wrong...
it's wrong!
No matter what letter is next to the name of the corrupt politician.
Members are being kicked out of FRee Republic because they say/post:
(the truth)
wrong if Bush does it, just like it would be wrong if Clinton did it.
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Fastwalker
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
Posts: 832
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Wed Jul 16, 2003 11:07 pm
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quote:
If Clinton had lied in his SOTU speech and then sent Americans to die overseas based on British Intelligence' lies and manipulation.
Authorization for use of force was given by congress many months before the State of the Union speech was made. UN resolution 1441 was months before the speech as well, promising severe consequences if Iraq did not comply with WMD disclosures. The justifications for war were already met. The point is, we did not go to war on the basis of these comments in the State of the Union address. This is the obvious lie liberal Democrats are currently trying to propagate. You insinuate the same lie here. This was just a supplemental comment to a speech, and it was a factual comment. The British do have intelligence that Iraq was attempting to purchase Uranium from Africa. This is still true. This is the way Bush phrased and intended the comment. Read the transcript. Bush did not lie because the statement was absolutely factual. You would have to have a non-factual statement in order for their to be a lie. Bush was not even trying to deceive anyone that this information came from American intelligence. He specifically said it came from British intelligence….which it did….
And yes, we need to rely on the intelligence agencies of other countries. MI6 is one of the best in the world. The reason for this is due to the fact that Clinton gutted our own intelligence agencies, which created the vulnerability that paved the way for 9/11.
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Would you support such a stupid President?
No....and thank God we don't have a stupid president like Clinton anymore. But I would support an extremely intelligent, moral and ethical president like GW Bush who did not lie in any way.
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Why not just disband the CIA and DIA and NSA
and the other 86 intelligence agencies?
Because this would be idiotic. The best solution is to fix what we have and fix the damage Clinton caused. Bush has been working on this since his election.
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If MI-6 is the ultimate authority,
why spend tax money on all these American fools who disagree with the MI-6 fradulent claims?
Who said MI-6 was the ultimate authority? Only you seem to be making this fraudulent claim. Their intelligence was not used as a basis for war. In fact, it was irrelevant.
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Why support anyone so stupid as to squander American lives because his British masters have tricked him into invading a sovereign nation for no valid reason?
Nobody did this...proving that you are the liar here. This is an absolutely false accusation. The uranium comments were not the justification the Bush administration used for war. Lives were not squandered on this basis. This is an absolutely false and idiotic accusation.
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Yes..all that BS about dictators and genocide aside.
The fact that you consider it BS is evidence as to how divorced you are from reality. Saddam killed close to 3 million people. Genocide in Iraq was a REALITY under the control of the Saddam regime. It was not BS.
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W's logic in that regard would have had US invading Russia in the 1960's and Communist China, Laos, Indonesia, Phillipines, Peru, and many other long before bothering with fleabite Iraq.
If they posed an imminent nuclear terrorist threat, then this would have been justified and would have solved alot of future problems.
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Remember it was the so called left, who asked,
"why not invade North Korea?
(instead of Iraq)
"They've admitted to having a nuclear missile program."
They asked this when we were in the middle of the Iraq war, you dunce. It was simply a ploy to discredit the president. Now, when the Iraq war is over and the N. Koreans are stating that they are manufacturing nukes, the left wants to ignore N. Korea and focus on a country of absolutely no US interest, consequence or threat called Liberia. The left is full of hot air and $#@#!. If this doesn't illustrate the fact of their utter hypocrisy, I don't know what does. The only reason they talked about N. Korea during our involvement in Iraq, when they KNEW we were occupied at the moment, was to undermine the President and the current operation in Iraq. Now, that the regime in Iraq is defeated, Bush can focus on N. Korea. It is seriously doubtful the left will be on board for that now. They were bluffing. Bush, on the other hand, doesn't bluff. Kinda puts the left on the horns of a dilemma, doesn't it?
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:18 am
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Fw shoves his nose up Bush's backside even more deeply.
Pot Pol killed nobody?
Stalin killed nobody?
Mao killed nobody.
Milosovic killed nobody?
Dubya's bogus reasons to invade Iraq would be valid if
and only if,
the USA had saved the millions murdered by all these other dictators,
while the USA stood by silently and let it happen.
All moral grounds for invading Iraq is a lie.
RightwingNuts opposed Clinton's UN sanctioned attempts to end the genocide
by Slobodan milosovic.
RightWingNuts opposed Clinton's attempts to kill Osama Bin Ladin with cruise missiles.
The WMD biogenetics lab was labeled an "aspirin factory" by Bin Laden loving RightWingNuts.
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