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You haven't answered any question I put to you in the previous posting.
Your Chicken Little jibe ignorantly overlooks the whole dimension to the debate introduced by Michaelson, who declares himself PRO-chemtrails.
In fact you are not even in the discussion.
This is all off-topic anyway. This thread was supposed to be about WMD. So I'll post something on Iraq. |
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William Rivers Pitt - The Crime and the Cover-Up
By William Rivers Pitt
From: http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/072103A.shtml
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Monday 21 July 2003
The scandal axiom in Washington states that it is not the crime
that destroys you, but the cover-up. Today in Washington you
can hear terms like 'Iraqgate' and 'Weaponsgate' bandied about,
but such obtuse labels do not provide an explanation for the
profound movements that are taking place.
Clearly, there is a scandal brewing over the Iraq war and the
Bush administration claims of Iraqi weapons arsenals that led
to the shooting. Clearly, there is a cover-up taking place. Yet
this instance, the crimes that have led to the cover-up are worse
by orders of magnitude than the cover-up itself.
The simple fact is that America went to war in Iraq because George
W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza
Rice and virtually every other public face within this administration
vowed that Iraq had vast stockpiles of chemical, biological and
nuclear weapons. America went to war because these people vowed
that Iraq had direct connections to al Qaeda, and by inference
to the attacks of September 11.
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no
doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some
of the most lethal weapons ever devised," said Bush on March
17, 2003.
"We know now that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear
weapons," said Cheney on August 26, 2002.
"There is no doubt'' that Saddam Hussein ''has chemical weapons
stocks,'' said Powell to FOX News on September 8, 2002.
"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein
aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda,"
said Bush in his State of the Union address. On September 26,
2002, Don Rumsfeld laid the groundwork for Bush's statement by
claiming that America had "bulletproof" evidence of Iraqi involvement
with al Qaeda.
These public statements, augmented by hundreds more in the same
vein, stoked fears within an already shellshocked American populace
that Iraqi nuclear weapons and anthrax would come raining out
of the sky at any moment, unless something was done. This same
information was delivered in dire tones to Congress, which voted
for war on Iraq based almost exclusively on the testimony of
CIA Director George Tenet.
None of it was true. Not one ounce of chemical, biological or
nuclear weaponry has been found in Iraq in the 82 days since
"hostilities ceased" on May 1, 2003. Not one ounce of chemical,
biological or nuclear weaponry has been found in Iraq in the
124 days since the shooting in Iraq officially started on March
19, 2003. Not one ounce of chemical, biological or nuclear weaponry
has been found in Iraq in the 230 days since the UNMOVIC weapons
inspections began in Iraq in late November of 2002. No proof
whatsoever of Iraqi connections to al Qaeda has been established.
Recently, the scandal over the missing Iraq weapons and the Bush
administration claims has focused on whether or not Iraq was
trying to procure uranium "yellow cake" from Niger in order to
reconstitute a nuclear weapons program. The last two weeks have
shown decisively that the Bush administration used manufactured
evidence, which had been denounced from virtually all corners
of the American intelligence community, to justify their war.
The administration's explanation for this has changed by the
hour - They weren't told by the CIA, and then they were told
but Bush and Cheney never heard about it, but it was only sixteen
words in one speech, so everybody calm down.
No one is calming down. When the President of the United States
terrifies the American people in his constitutionally-mandated
State of the Union speech with nuclear threats based upon evidence
that was universally known to be shoddily forged garbage, no
one should calm down. When he uses that terror to make war on
a nation that was no threat to America, no one should calm down.
When over 200 American soldiers and thousands of innocent Iraqi
civilians die because of this, no one should calm down. When
that grisly body count rises every single day, no one should
calm down.
The Niger nuclear forgery scandal is merely an accent in this
criminal symphony. It has become all too clear that a small cadre
of ultra-conservative hawks within the administration led us
to where we are today with absolutely no oversight from the rest
of the government. This group managed the run-up to war by creating
demonstrably exaggerated interpretations of intelligence reports,
and used 'insider data' from people with many good reasons to
help lie America into this war.
The Office of Special Plans, or OSP, was created by Defense Secretary
Rumsfeld specifically to second-guess and reinterpret intelligence
data to justify war in Iraq. The OSP was staffed by rank amateurs,
civilians whose ideological pedigree suited Rumsfeld and his
cabal of hawks. Though this group was on no government payroll
and endured no Congressional oversight, their information and
interpretations managed to prevail over the data being provided
by the State Department and CIA. This group was able to accomplish
this incredible feat due to devoted patronage from high-ranking
ultra-conservatives within the administration, including Vice-President
Cheney.
The highest levels of the OSP were staffed by heavy-hitters like
Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith, and William
Luti, a former Navy officer who worked for Cheney before joining
the Pentagon. These two men, along with their civilian advisors,
worked according to a strategy that they hoped would recreate
Iraq into an Israeli ally, destroy a potential threat to Persian
Gulf oil trade, and wrap U.S. allies around Iran. The State Department
and CIA saw this plan as being badly flawed and based upon profoundly
questionable intelligence. The OSP responded to these criticisms
by cutting State and CIA completely out of the loop. By the time
the war came, nearly all the data used to justify the action
to the American people was coming from the OSP. The American
intelligence community had been totally usurped.
When the OSP wanted to change or exaggerate evidence of Iraqi
weapons capabilities, they sent Vice President Cheney to CIA
headquarters on unprecedented visits where he demanded "forward-leaning"
interpretations of the evidence. When Cheney was unable to go
to the CIA, his chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, went in
his place.
On three occasions, former congressman Newt Gingrich visited
CIA in his capacity as a "consultant" for ultra-conservative
hawk Richard Perle and his Defense Policy Board. According to
the accounts of these visits, Gingrich browbeat the analysts
to toughen up their assessments of the dangers posed by Hussein.
He was allowed access to the CIA and the analysts because he
was a known emissary of the OSP.
The main OSP source of data on Iraqi weapons, and on the manner
in which the Iraqi people would greet their 'liberators,' was
Ahmad Chalabi. Chalabi was the head of the Iraqi National Congress,
an exile group seeking since 1997 the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Chalabi had been hand-picked by Don Rumsfeld to be the leader
of Iraq after the removal of Saddam Hussein, despite the fact
that he had been convicted in 1992 of 32 counts of bank fraud
by a Jordanian court and sentenced in absentia to 22 years in
prison. It apparently never occurred to Rumsfeld and the OSP
that Chalabi had a lot of reasons to lie. It seems they were
too enamored of the data he was providing, because that data
fully justified the course of action they had been set upon since
September 11, 2001.
Chalabi was the main source behind claims that Iraq had connections
to al Qaeda. Chalabi was the main source behind claims that Iraq
was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. Chalabi was the
main source behind claims that the Iraqi people would rise up
and embrace their American invaders. Chalabi's claims on this
last matter are the main reason post-war Iraq is in complete
chaos, because Rumsfeld assumed the logistics for repairing Iraq
would be simple - The joyful Iraqis would do it for him.
According to a story entitled "Planners Faulted in Iraq Chaos"
by Knight-Ridder reporters Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel,
published on July 13, Chalabi proved to be a dangerous wild card.
Chalabi's association with and influence over the OSP, however,
continued unabated:
"The Chalabi scheme was dealt another major blow in February,
a month before the war started, when U.S. intelligence agencies
monitored him conferring with hard-line Islamic leaders in Tehran,
Iran, a State Department official said. About that time, an Iraqi
Shiite militia that was based in Iran and known as the Badr Brigade
began moving into northern Iraq, setting off alarm bells in Washington.
Cheney, once a strong Chalabi backer, ordered the Pentagon to
curb its support for the exiles, the official said. Yet Chalabi
continued to receive Pentagon assistance, including backing for
a 700-man paramilitary unit. The U.S. military flew Chalabi and
his men at the height of the war from the safety of northern
Iraq to an air base outside the southern city of Nasiriyah in
expectation he would soon take power."
Chalabi never took power. Instead, Paul Bremer was installed
as the American proconsul in Iraq, ostensibly with orders to
bring stability and liberty to the country. This last aspect
is the final lie, the most repugnant crime, perpetrated against
the civilians of that ravaged nation.
I spoke last week with a woman named Jodie Evans, long-time peace
activist and organizer of a group called the International Occupation
Watch Center, or IOWC. The purpose of the IOWC is to stand as
watchdogs in Iraq over the corporate contracts being doled out,
and to view in person what is happening to the Iraqi people.
"I think that if you were against the war, then you need to be
there," said Evans, "because there is no one in Iraq who is for
the Iraqi people, and the people know it. They know it."
Evans had just returned from Baghdad. Upon her arrival to the
city, she saw the demonstrable chaos caused by the war, and by
the abject failure to repair the country in the aftermath. "It
was 120 degrees, it was dusty, the air had a haze that makes
everything gray," said Evans. "The buildings you see on the road
are bombed out. In some, you can see the fire coming up. In some,
you only see the scaffolding of contorted metal. We got across
our bridge and turned right onto the street we know so well,
the one we've stayed on, and every building was either boarded
up or bombed out, including the United Nations DP. It was all
bombed in, the windows were black from the fire."
"Immediately after we arrived," said Evans, "we hear that it
is not only worse than before the war. It is worse than during
the war. People are upset, people are angry. There were lots
of stories about how the Americans are doing this on purpose.
A month after the '91 war, which was much worse than this one,
everything was back and working. Now, the people live in this
chaos they can't even imagine. People can't go outside. Women
haven't left their homes. Lots of people haven't come back from
Syria or Kuwait or wherever they fled to get away from the bombing,
because life in Iraq is unlivable. There is 65% unemployment,
and even the doctors and nurses and teachers who are going to
work don't get paid, so there's no money."
Evans met a number of Americans in Iraq who are part of the 'rebuilding
process.' One such person was in the Compound, a guarded palace
that is now home to Bremer's office and staff along with a number
of other groups. The overall organization is called the Iraqi
Assistance Center, or IAC. The man Evans met was a professor
of religion and political theory at a religious college in America.
He explained that his job was to collect intelligence for Bremer.
"That professor I spoke to, the one doing intelligence for Bremer,
I told him that I had spoken to countless Iraqis and all of them
felt this chaos was happening on purpose," said Evans. "He basically
said this was true, that chaos was good, and out of chaos comes
order. So what the Iraqis were saying - that this madness was
all on purpose - this intelligence guy didn't discredit. He said,
'If you keep them hungry, they'll do anything for us.' Every
Iraqi says the Americans are doing this on purpose. It's quite
obvious."
"I met the man who was hired to create a new civil government
in Baghdad, to bring Baghdad back to order," said Evans. "His
name was Gerald Lawson. I asked him what his background was that
allowed him to get this job. He said he was in the Atlanta Police
for 30 years. I asked how this gave him the ability to create
a stable, civil government. He said he was a manager. I asked
him what he knew about Iraqis. He knew nothing, and didn't care
to know anything. He didn't know their history, their government,
didn't speak a word of Arabic and didn't care to learn. This
guy doesn't work for the American government, doesn't work for
the State Department, and doesn't work for the CPA. He works
for a corporation created by ex-Generals. Their job is to create
the new Iraqi government structure."
"We met the man whose job is to make sure the hospitals have
what they need," said Evans. "He is a veterinarian. We met a
British guy who showed up at the Compound gates one day and said
he was a volunteer who wanted to help. The next day he was named
the head of rubbish control in Baghdad, which is a huge problem
there because there is garbage all over the street. I asked him
what he had been doing with his time. He said he'd been hanging
out at Odai's palace playing with the lions and the cheetahs.
I met the guy in charge of designing the airport, where major
jumbo jets are supposed to land. He had never designed an airport
before."
"Another man I spoke to associated with this process is named
Don Munson," said Evans. "His job is civilian affairs policy.
He said to me, 'We are replacing one dictatorship with another.'
He's there for two years, and he works in the palace on the first
floor."
"Remember," said Evans, "that the first thing America did was
to fire 80,000 police officers. These guys weren't associated
with the Hussein regime. That's like connecting a cop in LA to
the Bush administration. All the people I've talked to over there,
the ambassadors and others, said they warned Bremer not to do
that. The cops knew who the criminals were, and 80,000 cops are
gone. So now there are these little mafias that run neighborhoods.
With no other work and no way to survive, people are going to
become criminals. The borders are wide open - we didn't even
get stopped when we came in - so everything is just flowing into
Iraq."
"A friend of mine's husband is an ambassador," said Evans. "I
asked him if this was normal operating procedure. He said that,
basically, no one will work on this Iraq project who has any
respect for their work or career, because it is so clearly a
farce. He said that later we will go in after these guys have
blown it, but right now with Bremer there it is a farce. Even
the press is over there are just shaking their heads and asking,
can anyone fail so badly? Can anybody make so many mistakes?
You can't imagine they can be so dumb."
"One Iraqi woman I spoke to," said Evans, "said she feels like
Iraq is a wounded animal, and everyone is coming in to take their
piece of flesh."
The cover-up is one thing, the crime is another. The Bush administration,
mainly in the form of Rumsfeld's Office of Special Plans, disregarded
any and all intelligence which said Iraq was no threat. They
supplanted reliable data with a slew of lies and exaggerations
that were fed daily to the American people and Congress, and
got their war. In the aftermath, nothing is being done for the
millions of Iraqi civilians who suffer daily under their newfound
'liberty.'
American soldiers continue to die. Two more, men from the 101st
Airborne, were killed early Sunday when their convoy was attacked
with rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire. "You have
these young American soldiers sitting in turrets," said Jodie
Evans, "just sitting ducks for the rage and frustration and vengeance
that is coming out."
This is a crime without peer in the annals of American history.
The cover-up currently underway must not be allowed to succeed.
When the American government gets hijacked by extremists like
the men staffing the Office of Special Plans, when intelligence
data stating flatly that Iraq presents no threat to America is
disregarded or exaggerated because the truth does not fit ideological
desires, when Congress is lied to, when the American people are
lied to, when innocent civilians at the sharp end of these lies
are left to rot in the dust and the bomb craters on purpose,
when American soldiers are shot down in the street because of
these lies, no kind of cover-up can be allowed to succeed.
The time has indeed come for a reckoning. Let it begin, and let
it begin soon.
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:55 am
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introduced by Michaelson, who declares himself PRO-chemtrails.
never heard of him...if he is anyone, gimme his mail,or refer him to mine, and I'll bring him back to reality...
if he has been listening to chicken little's like yourself, you probably scared the poor man into submission...
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:25 pm
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Interview with Hans Blix, Head UN Disarmament Inspector
Interviewer: Corine Lesnes
Le Monde
Thursday 12 June 2003
"This is not the first time that force has been used on the basis of erroneous intelligence," Mr. Blix questions the trustworthiness of American intelligence. From our United Nations correspondent.
L: What lessons do you draw from the Iraqi crisis?
B: Leading preemptive strikes on the basis of secret services' intelligence is something to which we must pay the most careful attention. This is not the first time that force has been used on the basis of intelligence that has proven to be erroneous.
L: You don't think you should have said more forcefully that Iraq perhaps didn't have any weapons of mass destruction?
B: But we never stopped saying it! We said that we had no proof of the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but that we did have numerous proofs of the existence of unresolved questions.
But according to F-walker VIRTUALLY every inspector agreed about Saddam having a weapons program? But yet, Hans himself stated that there was no proof that the weapons themselves even existed. |
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