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ChemCaptain
Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Irony... Hypocracy?
 Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:18 am
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I find it quite funny that the same group of people screaming at the top of their lungs about everyone here who disagrees with them being Nazis, are the same group of people who continue to do all they can to censor all outside opinion on the 'chemtrail' theory.
Shame on all of you..
[Edited 2 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 07-27-2003] |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
Posts: 3403
Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:47 am
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look at it this way...there's no reason to vistit the "additional forums" area...anymore...
guess now would be a little late to request moving the rumpus room to the front of the board...
further proof of my psychic abilities...
cha! She went away for the holidays said she's
Going to L.A. but she never got there
She never got there, she never got there, they say
She went away for the holidays said she's
Going to L.A. but she never got there
She never got there, she never got there, they say
The KKK took my baby away they took her away
Away from me The KKK took my baby away
They took her away away from me
Now I don't know where my baby can be they
Took her away from me They took her away from me
I don't know where my baby can be They took
Her away from mr They took her away from me
Ring me, ring me, ring me up the President
And finf out where my baby went
Ring me, ring me, ring me up the FBI and find
Out if baby's alive yeah, yeah, yeah O-o-o-o-o-o O-o-o-o-o-o
She went away for holidays She went away for holidays
The KKK took my baby away The KKK took my baby away
They took my girl they took my baby away
[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 07-26-2003]
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:56 pm
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Rumpus Room was fine until it began to be abused by... the so-called "debunkers".
Posting using misleading names, including cecarnicom, when one isn't Carnicom, is very childish.
Shame on them, they ruined it for themselves... |
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
Posts: 1386
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:19 pm
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Sorry ChemCaptain, but libel, defamation and impersonation hardly qualify as 'outside opinion' (or debunking for that matter).
I humbly suggested months ago that legitmate CT skeptics (if such people truly exist) set a little higher standard for themselves than the tone being set by their current (for lack of a better word) 'leadership'.
Place the blame where it belongs. |
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Fastwalker
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
Posts: 832
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:46 pm
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As most people here can see, I mostly confine myself to the "Other Trails" category (I know chemmies everywhere are sighing in relief)...but if you look at the popularity of this category, you see that there are almost half as many posts here as on normal chemtrail topics. Ok, granted....that's probably mostly due to Mech bashing Bush via cut and pastes of leftist articles, but still....this categore is a strong indication that there is some interest in other topics outside of chemtrails, no question about it....I think that's a healthy balance on a board dedicated to a now old conspiracy subject called chemtrails. This "Other Trails" category is important because it shows the mentality and political biases that motivate those who typically believe in chemtrails, and that's a good thing to reveal, in my opinion, because it goes along way to explaining why people believe what they do.
But hey, I'm willing to de-bunk chemtrails here, if somebody was willing to debate me that is. The thread where that was tried quickly died when I posted a whole slew of normal aircraft producing normal contrails which are now assumed to be chemtrails by chemmies . To me, this was a strong indication that chemmies are unwilling to face truth and reality.
Speaking generally, I think if your quest REALLY is truth, then you have to accept debate in your life. You're going to have to argue your points and see how well they stand up to opposing points of view, fact and logic, and then keep and open mind and REALLY listen to the answer. If you can’t do that, then what do you really have except self delusion and the inability to face truth? I mean, if you just say...here's what I believe, and it's not even open to question. Then what's the value of that? You’re saying you have all the answers and deluding yourself with a lie, just because you are not open to alternatives. Not only is this poor way to seek truth, and just flat out dishonest…It's boring...
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Mech
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:52 pm
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YAWWWWWN!!
The RR was nuked because it was being abused by debunkers using multiple IDs and attacking people for their ideas and different beliefs.
Certain people can't stand the fact that others don't buy what TPTB are telling them is the "truth".
Apparently...as seen in the Rumpus Room..certain people would sink to any level
to defame, discredit and slander chemtrail
believers.
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KNOW-THIS
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:52 pm
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I personally steer clear of the subject because I don't know enough about it to make a reasonable determination. I don't trust our government at all, there's no level they wouldn't stoop too. I think people place way to much trust upon this system.
I wouldn't slam anyone's ideas just for the sake of being malicious. It's the egotists on this board that provoke the worst in me. |
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
Posts: 1381
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:11 pm
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Fastwalker states:
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Speaking generally, I think if your quest REALLY is truth,
How about we start with you, CY, admitting who you are??
Mech states:
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The RR was nuked because it was being abused by debunkers using multiple IDs
Goes hand in hand with the above post. |
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ChemCaptain
Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 495
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:19 pm
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So why don't we open up a forum, not hidden in the back pages like the RR was, for actual discussion and debate regarding chemtrails...
And don't tell me the main forum is for that 
By the way, the Rumpus Room as designed as I saw it to be an anything goes forum.. Don't read it if you are so against accusations.. Hell- The Rumpus room wasn't even on the main forum page!
"Certain people can't stand the fact that others don't buy what TPTB are telling them is the "truth"."
You're such a $#@#! Mech.. It's anyone who doesn't agree with YOUR version of the truth you don't like, regardless of how they came to believe it.
[Edited 3 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 07-28-2003] |
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Mech
Joined: 06 Jun 2001
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Location: THE 4th REICH USA |
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:31 pm
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No..i'm attacked CONSTANTLY for what I post..I'm pretty used to that by now. |
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:40 pm
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There's a big difference between 'enter at your own risk' and abusing the system to post kwowingly false, defamtory and actionable material. People that otherwise WOULDN'T have entered found themselves to be the targets of an incessant barrage of false accusations.
It became more like 'do not enter at your own risk', and no way should investigators, reserachers and activists be forced to spend the lion's share of their time defending themselves from defamatory nonsense.
As for opening another section for legitmate debate... well, that's a seperate issue.
Really, the debate has shifted from 'if' to 'why' a long time ago... and that debate is really picking up steam now. If the Flat Earth Society wants to continue down the path of implausible deniablity, I'm afraid they are going to get left behind.
No one seems terribly interested in rehasing the failed arguements of yesteryear. It's 2003, not 1999, and things will continue to move forward.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Chem11 on 07-28-2003] |
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Fastwalker
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
Posts: 832
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:49 pm
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quote:
There's a big difference between 'enter at your own risk' and abusing the system to post kwowingly false, defamtory and actionable material.
If people were banned for posting false, defamatory or actionable material, Mech would've been banned at post number one, and this board's reason for existence would no longer exist….(sorry if that sounds redundant)….Heck, if posts were deleted for people lying, or stating false information, 90% of the posts on this board would need to be deleted and all you would have remaining would be posts from people like Fastwalker...of course..
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KNOW-THIS
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:55 pm
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F-walker, I think you should have a forum exclusively to yourself. Then you could be alone talking to yourself here, just like you are at home. Maybe a familiar environment would make you feel more comfortable. |
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Fastwalker
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:08 pm
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Yes...then we would at least have a truthful and honest forum.
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KNOW-THIS
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
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Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:22 pm
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Maybe within the shallow depths of your own mind it might appear that way. Meanwhile everyone else would see you as the outcast that you are. I think what you really need is the solitary confinement of a padded cell and a straight jacket. |
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