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suckingeggs
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How to successfully debunk right-wing propaganda
 Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:59 am
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DEFEAT THE RIGHT IN THREE MINUTES
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/
Have you got three minutes. Because that's all you need to learn how to defeat the Republican Right. Just read through this handy guide and you'll have everything you need to successfully debunk right-wing propaganda.
It's really that simple. First, you have to beat their ideology, which really isn't that difficult. At bottom, conservatives believe in a social hierarchy of "haves" and "have nots" that I call "corporate feudalism". They have taken this corrosive social vision and dressed it up with a "respectable" sounding ideology. That ideology is pure hogwash, and you can prove it.
But you have to do more than defeat the ideology. You have to defeat the "drum beat". You have to defeat the "propaganda machine", that brainwashes people with their slogans and catch-phrases. You've heard those slogans."Less government", "personal responsibility" and lots of flag waving. They are "shorthand" for an entire worldview, and the right has been pounding their slogans out into the public domain for getting on forty years.
So you need a really good slogan – a "counter-slogan" really, to "deprogram" the brainwashed. You need a "magic bullet" that quickly and efficiently destroys the effectiveness of their "drum beat". You need your own "drum beat" that sums up the right's position. Only your "drum beat" exposes the ugly reality of right-wing philosophy – the reality their slogans are meant to hide. Our slogan contains the governing concept that explains the entire right-wing agenda. That's why it works. You can see it in every policy, and virtually all of Republican rhetoric. And it's so easy to remember, and captures the essence of the Republican Right so well, we can pin it on them like a "scarlet letter".
Is there really a catch phrase – a "magic bullet" – that sums up the Republican Right in such a nice easy-to-grasp package. You better believe it, and it's downright elegant in its simplicity.
You want to know what that "magic bullet" is, don't you. Read on. You've still got two minutes.
Right-Wing Ideology in a Nutshell
When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just "dime-store economics" – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don't really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don't. It all gets down to two simple words.
"Cheap labor". That's their whole philosophy in a nutshell – which gives you a short and pithy "catch phrase" that describes them perfectly. You've heard of "big-government liberals". Well they're "cheap-labor conservatives".
"Cheap-labor conservative" is a moniker they will never shake, and never live down. Because it's exactly what they are. You see, cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America – whose fortunes depend on labor. The larger the labor supply, the cheaper it is. The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you'll work, and the more power those "corporate lords" have over you. If you are a wealthy elite – or a "wannabe" like most dittoheads – your wealth, power and privilege is enhanced by a labor pool, forced to work cheap.
Don't believe me. Well, let's apply this principle, and see how many right-wing positions become instantly understandable.
Cheap-labor conservatives don't like social spending or our "safety net". Why. Because when you're unemployed and desperate, corporations can pay you whatever they feel like – which is inevitably next to nothing. You see, they want you "over a barrel" and in a position to "work cheap or starve".
Cheap-labor conservatives don't like the minimum wage, or other improvements in wages and working conditions. Why. These reforms undo all of their efforts to keep you "over a barrel".
Cheap-labor conservatives like "free trade", NAFTA, GATT, etc. Why. Because there is a huge supply of desperately poor people in the third world, who are "over a barrel", and will work cheap.
Cheap-labor conservatives oppose a woman's right to choose. Why. Unwanted children are an economic burden that put poor women "over a barrel", forcing them to work cheap.
Cheap-labor conservatives don't like unions. Why. Because when labor "sticks together", wages go up. That's why workers unionize. Seems workers don't like being "over a barrel".
Cheap-labor conservatives constantly bray about "morality", "virtue", "respect for authority", "hard work" and other "values". Why. So they can blame your being "over a barrel" on your own "immorality", lack of "values" and "poor choices".
Cheap-labor conservatives encourage racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among wage earners distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests as wage earners.
The Cheap-Labor Conservatives' "Dirty Secret": They Don't Really Like Prosperity
Maybe you don't believe that cheap-labor conservatives like unemployment, poverty and "cheap labor". Consider these facts.
Unemployment was 23 percent when FDR took office in 1933. It dropped to 2.5 percent by time the next Republican was in the White House in 1953. It climbed back to 6.5 percent by the end of the Eisenhower administration. It dropped to 3.5 percent by the time LBJ left office. It climbed over 5 percent shortly after Nixon took office, and stayed there for 27 years, until Clinton brought it down to 4.5 percent early in his second term.
That same period – especially from the late forties into the early seventies – was the "golden age" of the United States. We sent men to the moon. We built our Interstate Highway system. We ended segregation in the South and established Medicare. In those days, a single wage earner could support an entire family on his wages. I grew up then, and I will tell you that life was good – at least for the many Americans insulated from the tragedy in Vietnam, as I was.
These facts provide a nice background to evaluate cheap-labor conservative claims like "liberals are destroying America."In fact, cheap-labor conservatives have howled with outrage and indignation against New Deal liberalism from its inception in the 1930's all the way to the present. You can go to "Free Republic" or Hannity's forum right now, and find a cheap-labor conservative comparing New Deal Liberalism to "Stalinism".
Cheap-labor conservatives opposed virtually all of the New Deal, including every improvement in wages and working conditions.
Cheap-labor conservatives have a long and sorry history of opposing virtually every advancement in this country's development going right back to the American revolution
Cheap-labor conservatives have hated Social Security and Medicare since their inception.
Many cheap-labor conservatives are hostile to public education. They think it should be privatized. But why are we surprised. Cheap-labor conservatives opposed universal public education in its early days. School vouchers are just a backdoor method to "resegregate" the public schools.
Cheap-labor conservatives hate the progressive income tax like the devil hates holy water.
Cheap-labor conservatives like budget deficits and a huge national debt for two reasons. A bankrupt government has a harder time doing any "social spending" – which cheap-labor conservatives oppose, and . . .
Wealthy cheap-labor conservatives like say, George W. Bush, buy the bonds and then earn tax free interest on the money they lend the government.[Check out Dubya's financial disclosures. The son of a bitch is a big holder of the T-bills that finance the deficit he is helping to expand.] The deficit created by cheap-labor conservatives while they posture as being "fiscally conservative" – may count as the biggest con job in American history.
"Free Trade", globalization, NAFTA and especially GATT are intended to create a world-wide "corporate playground" where national governments serve the interests of corporations – which means "cheap labor".
The ugly truth is that cheap-labor conservatives just don't like working people. They don't like "bottom up" prosperity, and the reason for it is very simple. lords have a harder time kicking them around. Once you understand this about the cheap-labor conservatives, the real motivation for their policies makes perfect sense. Remember, cheap-labor conservatives believe in social hierarchy and privilege, so the only prosperity they want is limited to them. They want to see absolutely nothing that benefits the guy – or more often the woman – who works for an hourly wage.
So there you have it, in one easy-to-remember phrase. See how easy it is to understand these cheap-labor conservatives. The more ignorant and destitute people there are – desperate for any job they can get – the cheaper the cheap-labor conservatives can get them to work.
Try it. Every time you respond to a cheap-labor conservative in letters to the editor, or an online discussion forum, look for the "cheap labor" angle. Trust me, you'll find it. I can even show you the "cheap labor" angle in things like the "war on drugs", and the absurd conservative opposition to alternative energy.
Next, make that moniker – cheap-labor conservatives – you're "standard reference" to the other side. One of the last revisions I made to this article was to find every reference to "conservatives", "Republicans", "right-wingers", and "righties", and replace it with "cheap-labor conservatives". In fact, if you're a cheap-labor conservative reading this, you should be getting sick of that phrase right about now. Exxxxcellent.
If enough people will "get with the program", it won't be long before you can't look at an editorial page, listen to the radio, turn on the TV, or log onto your favorite message board without seeing the phrase "cheap labor conservatives" – and have plenty of examples to reinforce the message. By election day of 2004, every politically sentient American should understand exactly what a "cheap labor conservative" is, and what he stands for.
Now if you stop right here, you will have enough ammunition to hold your own with a cheap-labor conservative, in any public debate. You have your catch phrase, and you have some of the facts and history to give that phrase meaning.
But if you really want to rip the heart out of cheap-labor conservative ideology, you may want to invest just a little bit more effort. It still isn't all that complicated, though it is a bit more detailed than what we have covered so far.
To explore that detail, just click one of the links below.
"Less Government" and "Cheap Labor".
The Public Sector and Private Fortunes.
"Personal Responsibility" and Wages.
For more detailed theoretical understanding, check out The Mythology of Wealth, or just browse through some of the articles in the sidebar.
Now go find some "cheap labor conservatives", and pin that scarlet moniker on them.
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Mech
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Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:46 pm
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suckingeggs
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Tue Aug 05, 2003 1:36 pm
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THE ROAD TO ARMAGEDDON
THE NEOCON WAY: ZEIG HEIL BABY
By: Novakeo
I’ve always found it somewhat impenetrable when confronted by neocons and
their determination to bring the world to a final cataclysmic event between good
and evil, that’s not the dense part, the pitifully thick part is when they
invoke God into their discussion concerning His attribute’s and word in some sort
of feeble way to justify their violent tendencies towards principalities that
they regard as evil. They never use scripture to back up their views or
policies, all they seem to say is that we are the good guys and God is all for it.
Which only serve’s to point out to anyone who is knowledgeable about God’s
word is that these people have demonized minds where the Word of God contradicts
just about everything they say and do. They use exactly the same jingoisms
and tired clichés about fighting evil as militant Islam does and see no human
inconsistency in this reality because God is really on their side.
Therefore if God is on their side everything the neocons do is a righteous
act and needs not fall into elucidation other than blameless validation to their
lies, murders, fabrications, and thievery. They show absolute contempt for
God and His Word, which is par for the course with the neocon; they hold their
allegiances to the god of forces - Daniel 11:38, where armed conflict is most
desired and glorified.
The neoconservatives’ work to increase the power of the state by subverting
constitutional restraints with restrictive illegitimate laws and with
aggressive expansionism abroad while spinning an alternate view for the masses’ that it
is all for their benefit and security. After conditioning societies into a
state of fear they mobilize the citizenry to support their vision of perpetual
war and sacrifice, and label all those that are opposed to their murderous
complexes as treasonous or cowardly.
Of course there is never any veracity in their juvenile accusations; it’s
nothing more than the meanderings of Nietzsche die hards in the finest tradition
of National Socialism. They create the conditions for war and then demand that
you send your sons’ to die for their glory because they regard themselves as
indispensable to the cause and will not risk their untimely death.
Unfortunately they presently hold the reigns of power in the United States and the result
is the demise of the republic and the rule of legitimate law.
Neoconservatives’ are megalomaniacs, and one manifestation of their
megalomania is armed conflict, and like their national socialist predecessors they will
manufacture threats against other evil entities so that their aggressive
policy of pre-emption can be implemented and dominate. Domination is what the
neocon is really working for; they work to dominate the citizenry and every aspect
of their lives by constructing massive highly intrusive centralized
governments in concurrence with their corporate prostitutes in the mass media where
they endeavor to condition the simpletons with statistical propaganda to accept
their contradictions and distortions as gospel truth. They work to turn a free
society into an oppressive militaristic one, to turn citizens into warriors to
fight perceived evils while signing contracts in their comfortable board
rooms for the illicit acquisition of the newly liberated booty, you make the
sacrifice and they reap the monetary benefits, what a sweet deal baby.
Neocons, also known as Straussians, labor to dominate the wealth of the world
through coercion and by violent invasions. It’s the strong dominating the
weak, the Darwinian evolutionary concept of the big bully where open warfare is
regarded as a natural evolutionary process so that the superior (good) is
separated from the chaff (evil), to tear down the decrepit old for a new greater
sophisticated society. I’ve always believed that National Socialism or
Neo-conservatism in its purist form could be found in the devilish concepts of Darwin.
History is rife with similar parallels where nations fall victim to
intellectual nihilism and morph into highly authoritative militaristic entities whose
sole purpose is to extend its power by force and augment the wealth of the
oligarchy. They destroy so they can restructure the vanquished with their
diabolical vision of a new virtuous society that is perceived as less threatening to
their ideology and policies. It is hardly ever the case that there was a
legitimate threat to the masses’ involved. Athens, Rome, Germany, is but a few
historical instances where one can draw similarities to what is happening presently
to the United States under neocon direction.
So, on the road we go to the apocalyptic dreams of the neoconservatives’, the
ultimate expression and destiny for these men and women of violence, death
and plunder. A final messianic epic conflagration that can serve to bring these
people to the point of a ecstatic climactic lather in which the mere idea of
one final battle between their good and everyone else should be enough for them
to go out and light up a cigarette. To be sure, they will be in the
background making certain that you do the dying like the good honorable citizen warrior
that you should be.
I am obviously referring to the war of the Apocalypse in which the
Straussians consistently try to project as a human battle between good and evil which is
of course scripturally inaccurate. As we know the truth does not matter to
the Straussians even when dealing with the revelations from the God of Truth.
The Straussians openly admit that it is necessary to lie and deceive the public
to further their agenda, that it is an elitist prerogative to circumvent the
rule of law when those laws restrict their movement. They serve the father of
lies who was a murderer and a thief from the beginning. John 8:44.
In the final eschatological battle between the nations of the world in the
valleys of Jehoshaphat and Megiddo we see that the western forces of the
antichrist is at war with the kings of the east. This human episode in Armageddon is
indeed a battle between the various demonic elements functioning in the world
whose purposes is to destroy humanity. We see that in this stage of Armageddon
it is a battle between the forces of evil, the Word of God clearly reveals
this to be the case.
Scripture gives the description of a “Great Tribulation” that is coming to
the earth. Jesus in His “Olivet Discourse” spoke on the Mount of Olives on the
Tuesday evening before His execution, said - “then there will be great
tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor
ever shall be, and except those days be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved, but for the elects sake those days shall be shortened” - Matt 24:21. In
the old testament, in Jer 30:4-7; it is described as the time of “Jacob’s
trouble”. The tribulation is also known as Daniel’s Seventieth Week. Dan 9: 24-27
. The tribulation is the scroll in Revelations opened by Jesus Christ and
revealed to John. This scroll consists of seven seals, seven trumpets, and seven
vials; it is the judgment of Israel and the world.
The tribulation can be broken down into two time frames, the first three and
a half years - it is a time of relative peace on the earth, and the second
period of three and a half years in which scripture calls the “Great Tribulation”
, it is all out war, and so great is this conflagration that Christ comes to
stop it before every living thing on earth is destroyed. The Tribulation
begins with a peace covenant between Israel and her enemies which was negotiated by
none other than the “son of perdition”, the antichrist. Dan 12:11 Matt 24:15
Mark 13:14. After forty two months the peace covenant with Israel will be
broken by an invasion from the north and south and will initiate the great
tribulation and the campaigns of Armageddon. Ezekiel 38-39.
The last major battle of Armageddon will be fought at the valley of Megiddo.
From Megiddo the battle will spread out over the entire land of Palestine.
According to scripture the battle will stretch from the valley of Megiddo in the
north of Palestine, through the valley of Jehoshaphat, near Jerusalem, and
down to Edom at the extreme southern part of Palestine. The campaigns of
Armageddon will be world wide and will eventually lead to the final climactic battle
in Megiddo.
In that final battle we see two massive armies opposing each other - the
western armies of the antichrist and the armies of the Asiatic powers. Before the
battle can commence there appears an event in the heavens, the sign of the Son
of Man - Matt 24:30, what this sign is, is not revealed, but its effect is;
it causes the armies to turn from their hostility toward each other and unite
to wage war against the return of the Prince of Peace.
The apostle John writes - “and I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth,
and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him that sat on the
horse, and against His army” Rev 19:19. “I saw heaven standing open and there
before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With
justice He judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on His head
are many crowns. He has a name written on Him that no one knows but He Himself.
He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is the Word of God. The
armies of heaven were following Him, riding on white horses and dressed in
fine linen, white and clean. Out of His mouth comes a sharp sword with which to
strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the
winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On His robe and on His
thigh He has written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.” Rev 19:11-16.
It is at this position that the armies of the beast and the east are
destroyed by the Lord bringing an end to the worst period in human history called the
tribulation and Armageddon. Rev 19:21. It is accurate to conclude that only at
this point could the war of Armageddon be considered a battle between good
and evil.
"Published originally at EtherZone.com : republication allowed with this
notice and hyperlink intact."
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shatoga
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Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:30 am
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suckingeggs,
I'd argue, except you are presenting the honest truth.
Mech,
put blame on both sides;
but consider:
"Only Nixon could go to China."
Only conservatives can get away with trashing the constitution and restricting our liberties.
Had Clinton done what Bush has done;
c9onservatives would be armed resistance at the barricades and there'd be rioting in the streets.
Neo-cons have given up thinking for themselves.
They just accept on faith any lie from their own side.
Even some Democrats voted to impeach Clinton for lying about sex.
Conservative anti-abortion leaders (Catholic Priests) lie about sex constantly.
The double standard lets Conservatives make deals with the devil (Rev Moon) while Liberals get trashed for even knowing a crime victim.
(Remember the "condit summer' diversion
while Bush & co arranged for 911 to go off without a hitch.)
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theseeker
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Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:38 am
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the article posted by eggs is a communist prop piece...
the best way to debunk leftists...is to post their leaders names...
Wexler, Nadler,Jackson-Lee,Conyers,Feingold,Dodd, Kennedy,Feinstein, Schumer,Mikulski, Corzine, Levin, Boxer,Jeffords
everyone of them card carrying NWO, UN trash !
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Mech
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Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:44 am
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I disagree Shatoga.
Clinton signed NAFTA/GATT and the expansion of the unaccountable globalist WTO that FINALLY people are beginning to suspect as we see Commie Chinas profits go up and ours go down.
Clinton was instrumental in the building the foundations to the NWO globalist machine.
Be that as it may..I do see the blindness of th present day "Conservative" who thinks Bush can do no wrong. In many ways he is like Bill Clinton on crack. Even more of a big government socialist catering to the NWO elite.
By the way...look who wants to ban my Vitamin supplements....
Hitlery, Feinswine and WTO worshiper Durbin
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000260.html
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shatoga
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Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:04 am
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Leadership on both sides has sold out to the highest bidder.
NWO
Liberals think all politicians are crooks:
" 'Poly'-meaning many, and 'tics'-meaning small blood sucking creatures" -Al Gore
Conservatives believe the s!@# from their own side does not stink!
We should all doubt all sold out politicians.
small bloodsucking creatures
and seek a third path.
support only the very few who actually oppose the NWO.
but careful there;
Clinton said "No!" to NWO manipulation and got trashed by the NWO media for over eight years-
Many here bought the NWO media's lies and disbelieve the truth:
"There is a government within the government; and I am not in charge." Bill Clinton (NYC 1996)
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suckingeggs
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Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:11 am
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And now over the pond...so many simialrities, all nicely coming together for NWO.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/blair/story/0,11964,1011478,00.html
The Observer. 3 August 2003.
And on the seventh day Tony Blair created...
It may prove an uphill struggle in this secular day and
age,
but the Prime Minister is aiming to put religion right at
the centre of government. Kamal Ahmed reports on a major
break with British tradition .
Tony Blair knows it is one of the most delicate of
subjects.
When asked about it he squirms and tries to change to a
more
comfortable line of inquiry. But quietly the Prime Minister
is putting religion at the centre of the New Labour
project,
reflecting his own deeply felt beliefs that answers to most
questions can be found in the Bible.
The Observer can reveal that Blair is to allow Christian
organisations and other 'faith groups' a central role in
policy-making in a decisive break with British traditions
that religion and government should not mix.
The Prime Minister, who this weekend becomes the longest
continually serving Labour Prime Minister in history, has
set up a ministerial working group in the Home Office
charged with injecting religious ideas 'across Whitehall'.
One expert on the relationship between politics and
religion
described the move as a 'blow to secularism'. Blair's move
is believed to have the strong support of the two other
leading Christian members of the Cabinet, David Blunkett,
the Home Secretary, and Paul Boateng, Chief Secretary of
the
Treasury.
The working group will be chaired by the Home Office
Minister with responsibility for what is called 'civic
renewal', Fiona Mactaggart. The members will include
Estelle
Morris, the former Education Secretary who is now the Arts
Minister, and Christian organisations including the
Evangelical Alliance. Known as the Faith Community Liaison
Group, it will have an input into controversial policy
areas
such as faith schools, which are allowed to select their
pupils on the basis of their beliefs, and religious
discrimination.
Blair, a committed Christian who keeps the Bible by his
bed,
knows he is taking a risk by revealing the importance he
places on religion in informing his politics.
He also knows that many of his key officials feel
uncomfortable about the central role that God plays in his
life. There were furrowed brows of consternation when
Blair,
asked who he would answer to for the deaths of British
soldiers, replied: 'My Maker'.
Alastair Campbell, Blair's communications director, said
'We
don't do God' when the Prime Minister was questioned in a
recent interview with Vanity Fair about his religious
beliefs. When Blair wanted to end his televised address to
the nation at the start of the war in Iraq with 'God bless
you', he was advised against it.
Some No 10 officials are concerned that the Government will
fall victim to unfavourable comparisons with the Republican
administration in America, where President Bush makes no
secret of his religious faith and right-wing religious
organisations have a powerful input into policy-making,
particularly on sensitive issues such as abortion. Blair,
in
contrast, has always been cautious about speaking about his
faith. He sidestepped questions from Sir David Frost last
year and Jeremy Paxman this year when both asked if he
prayed with the US President when they met at summits to
discuss the Iraq war.
The new high-powered ministerial grouping will have an
input
across government. Although based in the Home Office, it
will advise the Departments for Education, Culture, Media
and Sport and Trade and Industry. Underlining its
importance, William Chapman, the Appointments Secretary at
No 10, will have a key role. The Prime Minister's own
'religious envoy', Labour MP John Battle, will also sit on
the committee.
The Home Office announcement was slipped out in a
parliamentary written reply four weeks ago, and published
here for the first time. In it, Mactaggart outlines what
the
group will attempt to do: 'Its terms of reference are to
consider the most effective means of achieving greater
involvement of the faith communities in policy-making and
delivery across Whitehall [and] to identify the specific
policy areas where this input would be most valuable.
'The Prime Minister is aware of our plans and attaches
considerable importance to this. It will lay down the
foundations for the effective involvement of the faith
communities' perspectives and needs in policy development
across government.' Membership of the committee will also
include representatives of the Jewish, Sikh, Muslim and
Hindu faiths.
Non-religious groups attacked the plans, saying they gave a
special platform to religious groups denied to others. In a
letter to Mactaggart, Keith Wood, executive director of the
National Secular Society, which includes in its membership
a
number of Labour MPs, said: 'We feel this is a further
example of the Government's desire to favour and privilege
religious organisations, and wonder when the opinions and
needs of those who are non-religious will be similarly
regarded. The non-religious feel alienated and excluded
from
the political processes that help shape our society.'
Wood said that despite repeated requests non-religious
groups have been excluded from any involvement in the
religious working group. Christian organisations said that
there was much that could be learnt from religious groups
and the work they do in the community. 'This is an
important
development that goes way beyond a narrower set of faith
community concerns like faith schools or regeneration,'
said
Graham Dale, director of the Christian Socialist Movement,
of which Blair is a member.
'The group will have the freedom to engage in policy issues
across the board but also to address other less tangible
areas like values in public life. It raises to a new level
the recognition of faith as a factor in government
consultation and indicates the Government's willingness to
engage with people of faith in every area of public life.
'It therefore also represents a blow to secularism. As the
2001 census revealed, four in every five people in Britain
still align themselves with one of the major faiths. The
group is a bold step forward in getting better
representation of faith groups in politics, and getting
their views and opinions heard in policy formulation.'
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theseeker
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Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:55 am
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I like tony blair...but eggs...we got enough s!@# going on here...K?
We should all doubt all sold out politicians.
so $#@#! says we should doubt all democrats...
well that's what I been saying !
drinks on me !!!
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suckingeggs
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Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:56 am
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Seeker, its happening all over the world, you (gov) guys are just the front men and the problem is for everyone to sort out throughout the world. Us useless eaters need to demonstrate responsibility for ourselves, we don't need leaders, we demand leadership. we don't need religion, we carry our own convistions, we don't need war, we just need to share.
What Is Happening In America? Message From Germany
By Eliot Weinberger - Germany
8-5-3
In the Western democracies in the last fifty years, we have grown accustomed
to governments whose policies on specific issues may be good or bad, but
which essentially institute incremental changes to the status quo. The major
exceptions have been Thatcher and Reagan, but even their programs of
dismantling systems of social welfare seem, in retrospect, mild compared to
what is happening in the United States under George Bush-- or more exactly,
the ruling junta that tells Bush what to do and say.
It is unquestionably the most radical government in modern American history,
one whose ideology and actions have become so pervasive, and are so
unquestionably mirrored by the mass media here, that the population seems to
have forgotten what "normal" is.
George Bush is the first unelected President of the United States, installed
by a right-wing Supreme Court in a kind of judicial coup d'etat. He is the
first to actively subvert one of the pillars of American democracy: the
separation of church and state. There are now daily prayer meetings and
Bible study groups in every branch of the government, and religious
organizations are being given funds to take over educational and welfare
programs that have always been the domain of the state.
Bush is the first president to invoke the specific "Jesus Christ" rather
than an ecumenical "God," and he has surrounded himself with evangelical
Christians, including his Attorney General, who attends a church where he
talks in tongues.
It is the first administration to openly declare a policy of unilateral
aggression, a "Pax Americana" where the presence of allies (whether England
or Bulgaria) is agreeable but unimportant; where international treaties no
longer apply to the United States; and where-- for the first time in
history-- this country reserves the right to non-defensive, "pre-emptive"
strikes against any nation on earth, for whatever reason it declares.
It is the first-- since the internment of Japanese-Americans in World War
II-- to enact special laws for a specific ethnic group. Non-citizen young
Muslim men are now required to register and subject themselves to
interrogation. Many hundreds have been arrested and held without trial or
access to legal assistance-- a violation of another pillar of American
democracy: habeas corpus. Many have been taken from their families and
deported on minor technical immigration violations; the whereabouts of many
others are still unknown. And, in Guantanamo Bay, where it is said that they
are now preparing execution chambers, hundreds of foreign nationals --
including a 13-year-old and a man who claims to be 100-- have been kept for
almost two years in a limbo that clearly contravenes the Geneva Convention.
Similar to the Reagan era, it is an administration openly devoted to helping
the rich and ignoring the poor, one that has turned the surplus of the
Clinton years into a massive deficit through its combination of enormous tax
cuts for the wealthy (particularly those who earn more than a million
dollars a year) and increases in defense spending. (And, although
Republicans always campaign on "less government," it has created the largest
new government bureaucracy in history: the Department of Homeland Security.)
The Financial Times of England, hardly a hotbed of leftists, has categorized
this economic policy as "the lunatics taking over the asylum."
But more than Reagan-- whose policies tended to benefit the rich in
general-- most of Bush's legislation specifically enriches those in his
lifelong inner circle from the oil, mining, logging, construction, and
pharmaceutical industries. At the middle level of the bureaucracy, where
laws may be issued without Congressional approval, hundreds of regulations
have been changed to lower standards of pollution or safety in the
workplace, to open up wilderness areas for exploitation, or to eliminate the
testing of drugs.
Billions in government contracts have been awarded, without competition, to
corporations formerly run by administration officials. In a country where
the most significant social changes are enacted by court rulings, rather
than by legislation, the Bush administration has been filling every level of
the complex judicial system with ultra-right ideologues, especially those
who have protected corporations from lawsuits by individuals or
environmental groups, and those who are opposed to women's reproductive
rights. It remains to be seen how far they can push their antipathy to
contraception and abortion. They have already banned a rare form of
late-term abortion that is only given when the health of the mother is
endangered or the fetus is terribly deformed, and a large portion of Bush's
heralded billions to Africa to fight AIDS will be devoted to so-called
"abstinence" education.
Most of all, America doesn't feel like America any more. The climate of
militarism and fear, similar to any totalitarian state, permeates
everything. Bush is the first American president in memory to swagger around
in a military uniform, though he himself-- like all of his most militant
advisers-- evaded the Vietnam War. (Even Eisenhower, a general and a war
hero, never wore his uniform while he was president).
In the airports of provincial cities, there are frequent announcements in
that assuring, disembodied voice of science-fiction films: "The Department
of Homeland Security advises that the Terror Alert is now . . . Code
Orange." Every few weeks there is an announcement that another terrorist
attack is imminent, and citizens are urged to take ludicrous measures, like
sealing their windows, against biological and chemical attacks, and to
report the suspicious activities of their neighbors.
The Pentagon institutes the "Total Information Awareness" program to collect
data on the ordinary activities of ordinary citizens (credit card charges,
library book withdrawals, university course enrollments) and when this is
perceived as going too far, they change the name to "Terrorist Information
Awareness" and continue to do the same things. Millions are listed in
airport security computers as potential terrorists, including antiwar
demonstrators and pacifists. Critics are warned to "watch what they say" and
lists of "traitors" are posted on the internet.
The war in Iraq has been the most extreme manifestation of this new America,
and almost a casebook study in totalitarian techniques.
First, an Enemy is created by blatant lies that are endlessly repeated until
the population believes it: in this case, that Iraq was linked to the attack
on the World Trade Center, and that it possesses vast "weapons of mass
destruction" that threaten the world.
Then, a War of Liberation, entirely portrayed by the mass media in terms of
our Heroic Troops, with little or no imagery of casualties and devastation,
and with morale-inspiring, scripted "news" scenes-- such as the toppling of
the Saddam statue and the heroic "rescue" of Private Lynch-- worthy of
Soviet cinema.
Finally, as has happened with Afghanistan, very little news of the chaos
that has followed the Great Victory. Instead, the propaganda machine moves
on to a new Enemy-- this time, Iran.
It is very difficult to speak of what is happening in America without
resorting to the hyperbolic cliches of anti-Americanism that have lost their
meaning after so many decades, but that have now finally come true.
Perhaps one can only recite the facts, and I have mentioned only some of
them here. This is, quite simply, the most frightening American
administration in modern times, one that is appalling both to the left and
to traditional conservatives. This junta is unabashed in its imperialist
ambitions; it is enacting an Orwellian state of Perpetual War; it is
dismantling, or attempting to dismantle, some of the most fundamental tenets
of American democracy; it is acting without opposition within the
government, and is operating so quickly on so many fronts that it has
overwhelmed and exhausted any popular opposition.
Perhaps it cannot be stopped, but the first step toward slowing it down is
the recognition that this is an American government unlike any other in this
country's history, and one for whom democracy is an obstacle.
- Eliot Weinberger June 2, 2003 |
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halva
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Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:22 am
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DEFEAT THE RIGHT IN THREE MINUTES
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> http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/
I read through this and saw at the end that defeating the right in three minutes or three hundred years is not really what interests me.
The right is only one component in the system weighing down on us and
trying to 'defeat' it ideologically is a purposeless exercise.
Even calling someone a 'cheap labor conservative' is pointless. Someone at the receiving end of jibe like that can so easily say that it is natural for an employer to want to acquire labor as cheaply as possible, just as it is natural for a consumer to want to acquire a commodity as cheaply as possible. There is the question of quality, but that is an optional extra. It is the business of the consumer or
employer and no-one else, surely, how much weight quality is to have in his calculations.
The whole spirit of the 'defeat the right in three minutes' article is demagogical. It is trying to whip up political feeling without
offering it release in a concrete demand. The demand is that 'conservatives' be something different to what they are.
In other words there is no demand, unless the demand is 'vote for me'.
The spirit is one of incitement of hatred, which can have no other purpose other than the implementation of a divide and rule scenario, a democrat vs republican scenario.
The problem is not that there are certain people in this world who have a corporate feudalist ideology of "haves" and "have nots". The problem is that when such people must operate in a political system
of formal democracy based on the notion of equality between citizens, the only way they can impose their rule is by never-ending invention of enemies, internal and external.
A political system where structural inequality is recognized, and
society is divided into different castes, which do not compete ideologically, the pressure for invention of enemies is diminished.
So is the answer to 'defeat' ideologically the opponents of equality or is it to tolerate structural inequality in the hope that this might provide relief from the 'inventing enemies' scenarios. I
would say that there is a case for both viewpoints. What about a democratic debate, between equals, on that question?
Democrats are just as intolerant as Republicans of that prospect.
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Mech
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Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:41 am
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Yes..halva is right..its a PHONY Left/right paradigm controlled by world elites. |
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theseeker
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:25 am
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aww...I don't know it's real easy to tell the difference...
debunking the left in 3 words....
lobby,special interest
or a slideshow !
[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 08-07-2003] |
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
Posts: 1291
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Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:21 am
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Only a matter of scale.
Democrats sell out on an individual basis.
Republicans sold out as a group.
Same result.
sold out is sold out.
Those very few who refuse to sell out
face NMO media assaults designed to destroy them.
Gary Condit as example.
Bill Clinton was the only President ever to openly admit the existence of the "government within the government."
And we all saw over 60 million spent to trash him.
(How dare he try to work for American people instead of the NWO elites!)
shows how the NWO resents commoners in positions of power.
BTW/ NWO minion- thanks for the picture of;
a President who loves his country' shedding tears,
over what Bush has done to trash everything we hold dear.
Bootlickers' like Blair.
are always welcome
as house N* serving the massas.
Democrats need to look at their own with "How would I take this if a rightwinger had done or said it?"
Republicans need to look at the actions of Bush's neo-conservatives with
"How would I take this if Clinton had done or said it?"
An immediate end to "divide and rule" NWO tactics
is the intelligence
to doubt the motives of those on your own side.
(exactly like you doubt and distrust the other side's every word and deed!)
NWO manipulators invented those opposing sides!
(to divide and rule)
Totally on topic:
Nobody can convince any cultist to doubt their own cult leaders.
They must learn for themselves it's all based on lies and manipulation.
As Barry Goldwater learned that 'the cult of conservatism' had sold out to Moon.
The current crop of cult followers must learn for themselves.
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