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Thermit
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Major Power Outage Hits US, Canada
 Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:05 pm
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A59083-2003Aug14?language=printer
A huge power blackout hit U.S. cities spreading from New York to Cleveland and Detroit and north into Canada Thursday afternoon. In New York City, the blackout affected subways, elevators and airports, including John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia airports. People streamed into the streets of lower Manhattan in 90-degree heat. In Toronto, Ontario, too, workers left their offices after the blackout hit shortly after 4 p.m. EDT. Traffic lights were out throughout downtown Cleveland, creating havoc at the beginning of rush hour. There were reports of outages in New Jersey and Connecticut as well. Every prison in New York state reported a loss of power and had switched to backup generators, said James Flateau, a spokesman for the state Department of Corrections.
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rainheart
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Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:20 pm
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different explanations early on.
'The outage was caused by an outage at a Manhattan power plant which destabilized the power grid as far as Canada, FERC spokesman Bryan Lee said. ' http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59083-2003Aug14.html
'State officials said the Niagara-Mohawk power grid was overloaded. The grid provides power for New York and stretches into Canada. The officials said the outage is a natural occurrence and not related to terrorism. '
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/08/14/power.outage/
'There's no clear explanation why the power is out. One report says the Niagara-Mohawk power grid is overloaded, and that could be the explanation for the power outage. The U.S. government says it is not an act of terrorism.
However it appears unlikely an overload of the Niagara Mohawk power grid could cause such widespread damage on its own. The company Web site says serves 1.5 million customers in upstate New York.
So far it isn't clear just how extensive the outage is - but reports of power cuts have been reported all the way from Chicago to New York and from Ottawa to Washington.
There are also reports of a fire at the Con Edison Plant in New York State that may be related to the power failure.'
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/14/power_030814 |
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theseeker
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Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:38 pm
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a nuther "view"...
Thursday, August 14, 2003
Power Outage
Instapundit is providing fast-updated coverage of the power blackouts in the northeastern U.S. and nearby regions of Canada. I suspect we'll all be blogging about the fragility of the power grid over the next few days, if, as it appears, a fire at Con-Ed plant in New York is rsponsible for taking down the power grid in places as far-flung as New York City, Toronto, Ottawa, Toledo, Cleveland and Detroit. And if the fire isn't the result of terrorism, I suspect al Qaeda is already "going to school" on how one fire in the right spot can cause such widespread blackouts.
UPDATE: Unsure of the role of the Con-Ed fire in the blackouts; CNN says Niagara Mohawk, the power grid that serves New York, the New England states, and all of eastern Canada, overloaded and went down. Cause to be determined, though NYC officials say terrorism isn't the likely cause. Great. But not great - because today's events are merely advertising the fragility of the power grid.
Remember the grad student whose dissertation the feds wanted to classify as top-secret because he created a very detailed map of all of the infrastructure networks that connect American society? (I wrote about it here back on July 8 and again on July 10.) The power grids were part of his maps. Turns out the feds started creating similar ultra-detailed maps of power grids, the Internet and other infrastructure shortly after the September 11 attacks. Maps are one thing. Engineering the system to harden it against cascading failures due to terror attacks, sabotage or even fires and other accidental causes is another.
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KNOW-THIS
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Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:02 pm
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The fire was a false report.......smoke was seen, but there was no fire. It was said to be nothing out of the ordinary.
The power is out ten minutes from where I live, only dimmed at my house for about ten minutes. It's very scattered in my area........ |
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Mech
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Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:08 pm
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Personally..I think the power outage is NO ACCIDENT.
Nor was the recent computer virus that effected millions of computer systems worldwide.
It's the illuminatis last death throes before the big WAKE UP.
They are getting desperate so they are disrupting the system.
But they will be exposed very shortly.
Coming this month.
You heard it here first. |
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KNOW-THIS
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Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:12 pm
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It just dimmed here again for a brief moment. My place of employment is out as well. Might not have work tomorrow.......oh darn. I find it a little provocative myself, the sheer magnitude of the situation. Although I guess similar situations have occurred in the past.
Cell phone still dead.......This sucks!!!!!!!! |
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theseeker
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Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:46 pm
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cell phone ain't no good for ya anyway...
I'm sure it was a accident and not a terrorism deal...
but mech you better wake up an realize that islamic fundy's want you and everyone else here dead...that's very real... |
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Mech
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Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:52 pm
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No..the ILLUMINATI want us all dead.
80% of the worlds population according to their own numbers.
The remaining ones in serfdom of course.
Islamic terrorism was bred and encouraged by the CIA.Does their dirtywork very well I might add.
Anyone with a brain in their head knows this. |
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KNOW-THIS
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:03 am
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Well the commentary I've heard describes the possibility of a software attack by computer hackers. This could be anyone with just enough knowledge to be dangerous. I guess there is some kind of program that is supposed to prevent the spreading of these types of situations for the electric co.'s. This program failed.....could have been a glitch, could have been foul play. According to FEMA, the origin of the problem was Ottawa(spelling?) Canada. All I know is, it was a major ice storm that last left us without power for a week. Needless to say, it was extremely annoying. I don't know how it's missed me this time. |
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KNOW-THIS
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:09 am
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I will make one prediction though, if the outage lasts through the night, one word, LOOTING. Especially in Detroit and NYC. Just my call........maybe an obvious assumption? |
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theseeker
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:23 am
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well you missed it again...islamic fundy's started when the shaw of iran fell...the shaw was our guy mech not khomeni....or the islamic fundy's that have followed...
you won't believe it til they dump a nuke on israel will ya...and they will if they get the chance...
looting is a given...especially in those cities yep...
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Mech
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:31 am
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Seeker:--"well you missed it again...islamic fundy's started when the shaw of iran fell...the shaw was our guy.""
Uhhh yeah...The Shah(our guy) was so BRUTAL towards the Iranian people...the people got RID OF HIM and settled for Iahtollah.
Another American sponsored dictatorship job gone wrong.
Mabye if we left the Iranian people ALONE in the first place..those seeds WE planted never would have taken root.
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David
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:37 am
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quote:
Well the commentary I've heard describes the possibility of a software attack by computer hackers
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Maybe.
A few years ago a 12 year old kid hacked Hoover dams computers and opened up the system. He had the entire system at his finger tips. What he did not know, thank God, was that he could have opened all the gates wide open flooding everyone and everything down stream.
I could not find a linky to the story, sorry.
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KNOW-THIS
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:46 am
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I don't doubt it David, it's the cracker hacker mentality.
"........Did you know that on FoxNews they have experts warning that Islamic fundamentalist "CyberTerrorists" could hack into train stations and divert the tracks with only a few strokes of the keys causing a major head on train collision?
Did you know that they could also Hack into the Hoover Dam and open the flood gates "remotely" and cause a major flood that would kill hundreds of thousands?
Did you know that it is possible to Hack into a satellite in outer space and change it's orbit so that it would come crashing down to earth like a flaming meteor?
Did you know that the best Hackers on earth work for the United States Government and are the very first ones to attack through cyberspace during a war even before the first Navy Seal or Marines even touch the ground?
The possibilities of Hacking are endless.With all that power that you could potentially possess if you are serious.I mean really serious about becoming an elite Hacker.Then you must learn about Hacker ethics.Don't worry,I'am not going to bore you with a long lecture on ethics.It can all be summed up with the words of Jesus Christ from the bible which says,"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
I will show you some of the essential basics on this website,but if you are REALLY serious about becoming a Hacker.Click on "Hacker Software:Secrets of the CyberWarrior" to the upper left for more details,or click on one of the graphics below to be taken to that page.
Your search is over.You have finally found the portal to Hacker greatness!......."
ApocalypseKnight
*WARNING*!!!
"The Software and this Website are solely for educational purposes only.What you do with the knowledge you aquire here is totally your responsibility!Don't come crying to me if men in black or FBI come knocking on your door and take you away to a federal prison!"
I won't provide a link for this nonsense!
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Mech
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Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:51 am
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"--Did you know that the best Hackers on earth work for the United States Government and are the very first ones to attack through cyberspace during a war even before the first Navy Seal or Marines even touch the ground?--"
Says it all. |
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