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KILL your tEleviSiOn - amused to death PostThu Jan 10, 2002 9:24 pm  Reply with quote  


"Do you know we are ruled by T.V."


-- from the poem An American Prayer by Jim Morrison


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Review of Jerry Mander's
Four Arguments For The Elimination Of Television
by Ron Kaufman


"Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely . . . Winston kept his back turned to the telescreen."

-- from 1984 by George Orwell


http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/Jerry.Mander.html

"Television offers neither rest nor stimulation," Mander says. "Television inhibits your ability to think, but it does not lead to freedom of mind, relaxation or renewal. It leads to a more exhausted mind. You may have time out from prior obsessive thought patterns, but that's as far as television goes.


"The mind is never empty, the mind is filled. What's worse, it is filled with someone else's obsessive thoughts and images."


Why do you think they call it programming?

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In Media Violence Alert (2000), an informative and concise collection of five essays by a variety of insightful contributors that was put together by the Center For Successful Parenting (www.sosparents.org), Dr. Brandon Centerwall, M.D., M.P.H., documents in his essay "Television Comes To South Africa and Mcbride, Canada" that it has been proven in every single society in every single country in the whole wide world---from India to Indiana---that crime rates more than double within ten to fifteen years of the introduction of television to any society.

Wow! Why the fifteen-year delay, you ask? Because crime---rape, murder, assault---is an adult activity, and since television's greatest influence is on children, the time frame is indicative of the gestation period between when violent images are first perceived until when violent action is conceived. Basically, it's the length of time between how long it takes for the brutalization of a three to five year old to reach prime crime age.

It's common knowledge that children learn by mimicking, so it shouldn't be surprising to find out that within two years of introducing television to any group of children, two things will happen: the children's creative capacity will decrease by at least 22 percent and rates of biting, kicking, hitting, etc., will more than double. (Gee, I bet a third thing will happen, too. I bet a new strain of "learning disorder" will evolve out of virtually thin-air. And that a ton of parents will eagerly medicate their children with a chemical compound strikingly similar in make-up and effects to that of cocaine …...)

The most effective essay in Media Violence Alert was Lt. Col. David Grossman's twenty-six page opus entitled "Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill." Grossman, a former army ranger, West Point professor, and the author of On Killing: The Psychological Cost Of Learning To Kill In War And Society , drops the metaphorical bomb in an utterly brilliant presentation of the shared paradigm between the military's conditioning process and that of the media's.

In a nutshell: after the first few major wars the United States military was simply aghast at man's inherent lackthereof ability to just simply kill another man upon command, a "flaw" that was indicated by a scant fifteen-percent firing rate among soldiers and one that prevailed even after informing the troops that they were in fact only shooting at designated "bad guys." Apparently, just as "pesky" environmentalists are destructive to the lumber industry, a respect for life is destructive to the death industry, so since humans aren't born with an innate instinct to murder the military constructed one to install. And instill it they did: the firing rate by the time of Vietnam was well over 90 percent.


Grossman attests that militaries use one of three types of conditioning to train a man to kill: brutalization, or inculcation of values; classical conditioning; or operant conditioning. In brutalization, or the inculcation of values, a person's existing norms and values are broken down so that a new set of values, which embrace destruction, violence, and death as a way of life, can be accepted. To the young soldier this is more commonly known as boot camp; to the young child, unable to discern between their reality and media reality, this comes in the form of any violent or graphic media footage in scenes from cartoons to "E.R." to video games.

Classical conditioning, once best demonstrated by Pavlov's dogs, who learned to salivate from the sound of a ringing bell, can now be illustrated just as well by the student's reactions at Jonesboro high school upon being told that someone had just shot a bunch of their little brothers, sisters, and cousins in the middle school: they laughed. We have a generation of people who associate violence with pleasure, and no, not because they're parents didn't love them or they listen to Judas Priest: these kids were conditioned ten to fifteen years ago in a culture that propagates it, long before they were old enough to buy albums.

Operant conditioning is a very powerful procedure of stimulus-response that is responsible for 75-80 percent of the shooting on any battlefield. When people are frightened or angry, they will do what they are conditioned to do, hence life-saving procedures such as fire drills and self-defense courses for women featuring simulated attacks. It should be of great interest to know that the United States Military has licensed a slightly modified version of the Super Nintendo game "Doom" and are calling it MACS, Multipurpose Arcade Combat Simulators. To train people to kill.

Is it effective? You tell me: Michael Carneal, a fourteen-year-old from Paducah, KY, had never fired a pistol in his life when he stole a .22 pistol from a neighbor, took it to school, and opened fire on a prayer group as they were breaking up. Firing at a group of screaming, running kids, he hit 8 of them with 8 shots---5 in the head, 3 in the upper torso. Grossman, who also not only trained the Texas Rangers, but the Texas State Patrol, the California Highway Patrol Academy, and a battalion of the U.S. Army Green Berets, reported that when he informed the Green Berets of this child's "achievement", they were stunned: nowhere in the annals of military or law enforcement history can an equivalent accomplishment be found. Witnesses testified that Michael stood and shot with a blank look on his face, never moving his feet. He was playing a video game. Michael came not from a "broken" home but rather an affluent family, where "combat simulators" played a common role in his childhood curriculum.

Grossman aptly calls this conditioning and desensitization AVIDS---Acquired Violence Immune Deficiency Syndrome, which works a lot like AIDS: it alone does not destroy you, it destroys your defense against otherwise non-fatal situations that come across your path. In fact, he often testifies as an expert witness in cases where kids are facing the death penalty, fighting for mitigation on behalf of that child. To paraphrase, his expert ass can be found trying to convince ignorant you not to sentence a child to death since the culture that you propagate actually conditions kids to kill, but since you consider yourselves to be such "experts" on the matter yourselves---so "morally" convictive about what's "right" and so truly abreast of what is "really" going on with people these days (when you're not glued to your TVs, that is)---that you can't see the forest for the trees.



http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/mediaviolence.html




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PostThu Jan 10, 2002 11:19 pm  Reply with quote  

YIKES!
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PostThu Jan 10, 2002 11:56 pm  Reply with quote  

I killed the TV about 5 years ago, and now I am 10 times smarter because of it.
Sports.. are just a diversonary tactic to keep our male protectors thoughts and natural testosterone induced aggresivness, focused away from the real enemy, and towards a competitive "aggresivness ok'd" activity.Why do you think those sports casters all have the same flipping voice decade after decade, and that static background noise during the games,, men are mesmerised by it. My father was a semi professional golfer, and was a sports freak all his life. I had every football, baseball, golf, and when none of that was on,, basketball game on,, pouring into our livingroom all my childhood. I couldn't understand how he could listen to those monotone voices that didn't differ from each other,,, when one sports caster died,, they left their voice behind to the next in line. I always thought that was weird. As you can tell, I don't particularly care for sports.
Kinda reminds me of living in that movie "Rollerball" , just a diversionary tactic to hide what really going on behind the scenes.

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PostFri Jan 11, 2002 1:33 am  Reply with quote  

Yes, I thought Rollerball was an important movie, it seemed ahead of it's time. It was interesting in the way it showed future "City-states" separated and represented by corporate interests (Houston-Energy vs. Los Angeles-Entertainment, or Tokyo vs. Madrid... can't remember what their corp. titles were?) in a kind of sports warfare that was overtly controlled by corporations to teach the masses the futility of individual effort. Ironically, or maybe by design, the movie actually tried to evoke a message that individuality is a strength and not a weakness, maybe a covert attempt to show us, that teamwork in not a desirable quality? Anyway.....

This was really kind of a great idea, though it may not have been intentional? The message I guess, was that in this fictional future, corporations could destroy everyones individuality and curtail aggression by focussing on this global Rollerball league as a replacement for real warfare. Using aggression in the form of SportsMercenaries/Gladiators in place of wasteful and destructive global warfare (as we have today). Rollerball doesn't seem like such a bad idea, aside from the Big Brother angle they were going for?

Personally I love pro and college football and I don't see a problem with it, nothing compared to warfare! Yes, it's violent but not lethal, like Rollerball (not yet anyway?).

In fact, that idea about getting the (proverbial) heads of the opposing countries to have a fist fight instead of sending hundreds/thousands/millions of people to their death has always been a great idea IMO,... but there would be no profit in that!

The war-mongers and power freaks of the world must keep the masses separated and at war with each other to maintain their little pathetic empires of wealth and comfort. That's another way I can see satanism as a good fit for TPTB in that they also appear to have no conscience about stepping over the dead bodies of their "inferiors", people with less wealth, or less intelligence or education... The average person doesn't want a war, what would he have to gain?

It seems that the weapons dealers and oil interests and the politicians they own are for the most part responsible for most of the carnage in our life time, not opposing ideoligies or religious beliefs as the govt-controlled media would have us believe.

They use religion, organized and 'institutionalized' crime, black ops and the lying media to stir up hatred among the populace, to inspire the need to send young and impressionable kids (18 year olds in Viet Nam) to kill 3rd world populations (that have no say in global politics) for their own financial/political gain.

They also suppress peace movements and alternative energy sources to maintain their apparent stranglehold on the world's population. They're the antithesis of spirituality, and to me, that amounts indirectly or directly to satanism and evil.

TPTB seem untouchable when it comes to war and mass murder, but there's always hope. REAL justice, IMO will come in the afterlife no matter how it seems in todays world.

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PostFri Jan 11, 2002 1:35 am  Reply with quote  

KILL YOUR TELEVISION-Amused to Death
http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/waters.amused.html

quote:

Throughout Amused To Death (59k), Waters attacks television news programs as frivolous. The song "What God Wants, Part III," ends with the lyrics:

And the network anchor persons lie
And the soldier's alone
In the video zone
But the monkey's not watching
He's slipped out to the kitchen
To pile the dishes
And answer the phone

The television war can be turned off and forgotten just like any other program. "I think it would be very good if every human being in the world, as their right, had a news channel that was not selling corn flakes," Waters said on Westwood One. "Who's duty was to gather information and disseminate it without caring about whether or not it helped them sell corn flakes. Who didn't care what their ratings were and who were not interested in putting on something that had to compete with a game show or a re-run of Happy Days."

The title of Amused To Death (59k) comes from a book by New York University Professor Neil Postman entitled Amusing Ourselves To Death. In the book, Postman chronicles how information has changed from the typographic age to the television age. "Television has become, so to speak, the background radiation of the social and intellectual universe," wrote Postman. "The all-but-imperceptible residue of the electronic big bang of a century past, so familiar and so thoroughly integrated with American culture that we no longer hear its faint hissing in the background or see the flickering gray light."

Postman's book, though a bit preachy, does a good job showing the changes in American culture with the advent of television as the major media force. The biggest effect is that images have now replaced thought. Showing somebody thinking does not look good on TV. "The average length of a shot on network television is only 3.5 seconds, so that the eye never rests, always has something new to see," Postman said in his book.

"Television offers viewers a variety of subject matter, requires minimal skills to comprehend it, and is largely aimed at emotional gratification. Even commercials, which some regard as an annoyance, are exquisitely crafted, always pleasing to the eye and accompanied by exciting music."

"It is the nature of the medium that it must suppress the content of ideas in order to accommodate the requirements of visual interest," Postman said. "That is to say, to accommodate the values of show business."

This one of the main points put forth in both Postman's and Waters' works: All television is entertainment, even the news.

The lyrics in the title song of Waters' album paint a wonderful musical explanation of the culture created by the television set: a culture concerned with Jessica Hahn and Melrose Place; with consumerism (98k); children huddled together staring at the tube (98k); and a need to be constantly entertained. (59k)

"I had at one point this rather depressing image of some alien creature seeing the death of this planet and coming down in their spaceships and sniffing around and finding all our skeletons sitting around our TV sets," Waters told the L.A. Times.

"They come to the conclusion that we amused ourselves to death . . . television, when it becomes commercialized and profit-based, tends to trivialize and dehumanize our lives. So I became interested in this idea of television as a two-edged sword, that it can be a great medium for spreading information and understanding between peoples, but when it's a tool of our slavish adherence to the incumbent philosophy that the free market is the God that we should all bow down to, it's a very dangerous medium." (59k)

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Copyright 1997 by Ron Kaufman






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PostTue Jan 15, 2002 4:02 pm  Reply with quote  

Here's a cool British site;
http://www.killyourtelevision.co.uk/


The news, it seems, is written by corporations with the objective of providing as little information as possible, but making the viewer/reader think that they are getting high-quality, well-informed content.

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Here's a cool German site;
http://www.tvkiller.com/


Here you'll find information about "TV",
and arguments and ideas on how to spend your time,
without always holding your remote control.
A forum for all, who have a personal opinion,
their own thoughts and suggestions about this subject.
A way to get rid off tv.

"Kill your television" and enjoy life!
There is much more to it without TV!

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PostWed Jan 16, 2002 7:50 pm  Reply with quote  

I can't recall where I found this or who wrote it, but here it is;




The Media-Industrial Complex is a term I made up for what used to be called the Military-Industrial Complex.


Back when the cold war was in full swing, the military-industrial complex would propose multi-billion dollar "defense" projects to Congress, hoping that Congress would allocate billions of tax dollars to fund these projects.

Congressional members who voted for these projects received campaign funds from the military-industrial complex so they could get re-elected. The factories, military bases, and research institutions that these billions of dollars paid for ended up being located in the home districts of the same influential congressmen and senators who voted for the projects in the first place.

Any member of Congress who did not vote for these projects would be labeled "soft on communism" or a "pacifist" or a "traitor to the American Way Of Life". When the next election came around, people who voted against these projects would find that their opponents were suddenly much better funded than they'd been in the past.

Some of these projects were actually useful in the defense of our country, but their success or failure in obtaining funds had more to do with who got the money and power generated by the projects, rather than the usefulness of the projects themselves. The shareholders of the big defense corporations received millions and sometimes billions of dollars in profits. The senators and congressmen got re-election funds and managed to hold on to power for as long as they wished. The American people got a first-rate defense system, although they'd paid billions more for that defense than they probably needed to, and ended up putting their great-grandchildren into debt in the process.

In this post-cold war world, the military doesn't have the power it once did to create multi-million dollar projects that were easily sold to a willing Congress. We just don't have the same threats to the American Way of Life that we once did. However, the same defense contractor shareholders who siphoned off billions of tax dollars using the "defense" scam are still out there and they're still the same greedy bastards they always were. As the cold war wound its way down these people sold off their defense stocks and started buying media companies.

We no longer have real threats to the American Way of Life, but if the media tells you day after day of some new danger, real or imaginary, you can bet that Congress will be only too happy to allocate the funds to fight that danger. The cycle will continue, campaign funds will be given, and stockholders will get rich off of American taxpayer dollars. That's why a defense contractor like General Electric bought NBC, and another defense contractor named Westinghouse bought ABC. Those are the well-known cases, but they're just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.


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57 CHANNELS (AND NOTHIN' ON)

I bought a bourgeois house in the Hollywood hills
With a truckload of hundred thousand dollar bills
Man came by to hook up my cable TV
We settled in for the night my baby and me
We switched 'round and 'round 'til half-past dawn
There was fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

Well now home entertainment was my baby's wish
So I hopped into town for a satellite dish
I tied it to the top of my Japanese car
I came home and I pointed it out into the stars
A message came back from the great beyond
There's fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

Well we might'a made some friends with some billionaires
We might'a got all nice and friendly
If we'd made it upstairs
All I got was a note that said "Bye-bye John
Our love is fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"

So I bought a .44 magnum it was solid steel cast
And in the blessed name of Elvis well I just let it blast
'Til my TV lay in pieces there at my feet
And they busted me for disturbin' the almighty peace
Judge said "What you got in your defense son?"
"Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"
I can see by your eyes friend you're just about gone
Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on...
Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on.


- Bruce Springsteen



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PostSat Jan 19, 2002 6:49 am  Reply with quote  

Right on Defender!! T.V. is just "junk food" for the brain! I put it right up there with sports, structured religions, and especially, the Olympics. All excellent "control mechanisms" to keep us "dulled" down and not seeing what is really going on in the world. T.V. can keep you from a nice, healthy, exhilarating walk, a great Book by one of the great Masters, it can keep you from appreciating flowers and taking the time to smell them and even bring one to someone you love...it can keep you from holding hands and making plans for the future...all too soon, time slips away from us, and if we don't step away from all the control mechanisms and actually "live" our lives, It will be a sorrowful time in the "golden Years" to only be able to sit back and think about "What might have been", Things that could have been done or said but never were because some other "control Mechanisms" were there to guide us their way, the wrong way! In that case, "The Golden Years" turn to dross! Sadly...Joanne
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PostSat Jan 19, 2002 6:54 am  Reply with quote  

i never killed the TV
i just walked away in 1969
and never came back
is it still there?
GOD i hope knot
it was the opiate of the peaple then

once in awhile i peak but
it takes a large dose of elephant tranks after that
and that gives me wierd dreams

betterwith the IV beer setup
"those mysteriouse lines in the sky by jay circa 1997"
a solution before recognition of problem
is never wise you see
it goes like this
dE dumB De DumE de dUme
step along with me here
PRoblEm ReacTion SolUtion
repete
PrObLeM ReActIon solUtion
(are you getting the beat rythume now)
now you can alter the cadence
like put the solution right behind the problem~ for a change
for instance
world trade center goes down
then in the next instant you could have the solution
yes i think the wold is numb enough
lets go with it
hey it was popular dude
lets play it again
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PostSun Jan 20, 2002 7:05 am  Reply with quote  

Even back before cable Pink Floyd sang from "The WAll" (side bar Defender, for the sleep deprevation thread... I forgot to mention that I slept with Pink Floyd on the headphones for over two years of my adolescence. Specifically Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and Animals. Maybe that explains a few things.)

Nobody Home

I've got a little black book with my poems in.
Got a bag with a toothbrush and a comb in.
When I'm a good dog they sometimes throw me a bone in.
I got elastic bands keeping my shoes on.
Got those swollen hand blues.
Got thirteen channels of s!@# on the T.V. to choose from.
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PostSun Jan 20, 2002 8:21 pm  Reply with quote  

FLKOOK, if you haven't already I highly recommend you listen to 'Amused to Death'. Roger has continued making great music since the 70's and Amused to Death has to be included with your Floyd collection.

...The children on Melrose strut their stuff
Is absolute zero cold enough?
And down in the valley, warm and clean
The little ones sit by their t.v. screens
No thoughts to think, no tears to cry
All sucked dry, down to the very last breath
....
We watched the tragedy unfold
We did as we were told we bought and sold
It was the greatest show on earth, but then it was over
We all ignored, we drove our racing cars
We ate our last few jars of caviar
And somewhere out there in the stars
A keen eyed lookout spied the flickering light
Our last hoorah, our last hoorah
And when they found our shadows
Glued around the t.v. sets
They ran down every lead, they repeated every test
They checked out all the data, all their lists... and then
The alien anthropologists admitted they were still perplexed
Upon eliminating every other reason for our sad demise
They loved the only explanation left
This species has amused itself to death.
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PostTue Jan 22, 2002 5:36 pm  Reply with quote  

Pink Floyd is really amazing, enigmatic. They represent a positive force IMO, as far as questioning authority, oppression. Other groups I mentioned in 'Jimi, Janis & Jim', or genres like speed-metal, rap, etc. seem to have the effect of splintering and seperating Americans, specifically young Americans? Most videos seem to promote partying, fast cars, beautiful women: A carrot and stick routine especially in the case of rap music in recent years....?



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PostFri Jan 25, 2002 2:54 am  Reply with quote  

Floyd is my most favorite band.

Their music has always struck a powerful chord in me and by music I mean the notes, the melodies.

When you add the lyrics the whole thing is just mindblowing, or soul healing; depending on the situation.

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I can bend minds with my spoon.

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