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KNOW-THIS
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Rock & suicide
 Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:54 am
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ST. PETERSBURG, Florida (AP) -- The St. Petersburg city council passed a law Monday designed to scuttle a rock group's plans to feature an onstage suicide.
The hard-rock band Hell on Earth had said that a suicide by a terminally ill person would take place during a concert Saturday to raise awareness of right-to-die issues.
In response, the city council met Monday morning to unanimously approve an emergency ordinance making it illegal to conduct a suicide for commercial or entertainment purposes, and to host, promote and sell tickets for such an event.
"While I still think it's a publicity stunt, we still couldn't sit idly by and let somebody lose their life," council member Bill Foster said.
Tampa-based Hell of Earth, known for such outrageous onstage stunts as chocolate syrup wrestling and grinding up live rats in a blender, created the furor by announcing the suicide would happen Saturday at the Palace Theater in downtown St. Petersburg.
But the theater's owner, David Hundley, promptly canceled the band's show, and another venue also turned away the event.
Band leader Billy Tourtelot has vowed that the concert and suicide will still take place at an undisclosed location in the city, broadcast live on the band's Web site.
"This show is far more than a typical Hell On Earth performance," Tourtelot said in an e-mail last week. "This is about standing up for what you believe in, and I am a strong supporter of physician-assisted suicide."
A message left for Tourtelot was not immediately returned Monday.
A Florida law already makes assisting in a suicide manslaughter, a second-degree felony.
Hell on Earth is playing clubs in support of its independently produced album, "All Things Disturbingly Sassy."
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KNOW-THIS
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:27 pm
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Radio host proclaims he has suicide video
Blogged by Marc Erickson @ 06:45PM / Linkback
"A Chicago man says he has exclusive video of the much-hyped Hell on Earth performance Saturday night, including 'crazy' footage that purports to show a sickly-looking man commiting suicide through 'some sort of asphyxiation.' But Shane Bugbee isn't necessarily buying that it's real.
Hell on Earth front man Billy Tourtelot vowed earlier in the week to defy a hastily passed city ordinance by broadcasting over the Internet the live suicide of a terminally ill fan in conjunction with his band's performance Saturday night.
But the Web host shut down the site before show time. 'The site was getting entirely too many hits and couldn't keep up with it,' said Shawn Hughes, a technical supporter worker for Candid Hosting in Tampa. The site was getting more than 800 hits per second, he said, and was slowing connection to 36 other Web sites that share the same equipment. 'Eight hundred hits a second, that's incredible,' Hughes said. 'It's scary. It's a sick society that wants to look at that stuff.'...
Bugbee, 34, said he has been interviewing Tourtelot during the past three days and plans to share what he has learned during his two-hour Internet radio program at noon today on
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:47 pm
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KT,
I don't know about this act.
1) Did the terminally ill person agree to this?
2) Did the rats give the OK to be ground up?
I'm all for even Satanists saying what they believe in, but it seems like this band is looking for publicity.
The band, The Residents can shock you, but it's funny shock, almost like The Three Stooges impersonating Nazis during WW2.
This is neither funny nor informative.
Sorry man, I just don't agree with their actions. Contrary to some other posters in this forum, I don't think that this is the way to shock Christians, which seems to be the goal. Weirdness, Humor, Sexiness, and Askew tonal combinations will do that.
To me artistic shock is listening to Oliver Messiaen's "Turangalila", and the absolute bizarre combination of notes and rhythms, which activate neural circuits that are dormant. I saw some uninitiated people running out of a Messian concert at Carnegie Hall once, while most of the audience was on the edge of their seats or in a dreamy, mediatative state. And here's the catch, Messiaen was a devout Christian, yet some called his music demonic. Go figure. |
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KNOW-THIS
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:11 pm
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Actually I agree, I've never even heard of this band until now. That kind of speaks for itself, and why they're doing it. I guess the guy agreed to it though. Regardless, believe me, I'm not promoting these guys in the least. I just thought it was an interesting look into our culture's persistent curiosity and taste for death. I honestly have always believed that executions will one day be shown live on pay-per-view. This story just sounds like a step in that direction. |
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:52 pm
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I'm glad KNOW-THIS.
You mention that executions will be televised.
My absolute favorite TV Science -Fiction series, The Outer Limits, had an episode about this. If you ever get a chance, check it out. I love the way they took on organized religion, politics, corporations, and the military. Much more intelligent and thought provoking than that US Air Force produced piece of Propaganda, Stargate.
JUDGEMENT DAY - The Outer Limits
Capitol punishment makes it to primetime. Judgment Day has quickly become the hottest show on the Justice Channel and on television - period. Produced by Jack Parson and hosted by Stan Draper and Heather Cattrell, the show has turned the Justice system on its ear by becoming judge, jury and executioner, allowing a murder victim's family to carry out the death sentence on live television. Today, Allison Channing will hunt down Declan McMahon, the petty criminal who killed her sister Kaitlin. Declan gets a 20 minute head start, but he's got a microchip in his brain that's tuned to the taser that Allison carries. He's also had a camera implanted in his eye, allowing the home audience to see his point of view as they phone in tips and send digicam images to the studio in exchange for cash rewards. There's only one problem: Declan insists he was framed, that the security camera footage that would have cleared him has been altered by someone. With Allison on his trail and the ratings going through the roof, Declan turns to his brother Dooley to help him provehis innocence to Allison, his would-be executioner and to the watching world.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 10-09-2003] |
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emfx13
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 7:13 pm
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My band FLESH ASSEMBLY does not have to stoop to these kind of promotion's to get noticed,but some band's will do anything.Needless to say,i don't approve of these kind of act's. |
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:10 pm
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That's cause Flesh Assembly plays their hearts out, and are da bomb!!!!!!!
[Edited 2 times, lastly by swamp gas on 10-09-2003] |
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FLKook
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Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:22 am
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Jesus is the Rock! Praise the name of Jesus.
Trying to "shock" Christians seems a bit of an attack. Why would how a Christian view music be a catalyst for an artists expression. Shouldn't it be a true expression regardless of what any particular group thinks? Of course that is unless you are pushing an agenda. |
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