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WonderWmn93
Joined: 03 Apr 2001
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Location: Marysville,WA USA |
Chemtrails
 Wed May 23, 2001 7:21 am
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Ok many of you know that I am pretty new to the board here. I have a lot of questions about chemtrails. I know that the Airforce and our wonderful government are full of crap when they deny that they don't exist. Or that they say that it is normal contrail from a jet. From everything that I have been witnessing here in Washington, tells me that there is something else to the story. They fly over here all day long! Crossing back and forth and filling the skies with x's. These are not normal planes. When a jet flies over you here them, you don't here these planes at all. And I have seen normal jets leaving Paine Field, and they don't even leave a chemtrail or a contrail. So what is their reasoning for flying over and over the same areas all day long leaving trails that spread out into a white cloud layer?
Ok now that I have vented, here is my question. I know that many people are researching chemtrails, has anyone ever flew up next to one of these planes and tried to get some sort of air samples or taken pictures? I would think that would be easier said than done, but wouldn't it also maybe give us some answers? I wonder each day where they are taking off from and I have no clue. There are several very small airports around here and also a big Boeing Production plant and Paine Field airport. They are connected. That is where I first thought they were taking off from, but I never see them take off and we are only a few miles from there. So I haven't a clue where they are taking off from, but I sure would like to know. Also has anyone seen these planes take off or land? I think that we need answers. There is something going on and if our wonderful Government is claiming that they don't exist, what are we a bunch of nuts? Well, that is what they try to make us look like, but we know the truth. We need more research and people to do it. I know that a lot of you are working very hard to find the answers. May God Bless you! I just can't sit around day in and day out and watch them do this. If they are saying that they don't exist.. then they are covering up something and we deserve to know the truth! I told my husband.. if they say that they don't exist and that these are just normal jets, then why are our tax dollars paying for jets to roam the skys over and over areas making yucky clouds all day long. I think that someone owes us some refunds 
I mean come on and give me a break. Someone owes us some answers! I wan't to know the truth. Well, at least I think I do Does anyone else feel this way? Maybe I am loosing my mind? Maybe that is what they want me to think. I will continue to search for answers, is anyone with me? Hey with all of us, I think we would make an awsome team Most of us at least Ok I am rambling so I am off to bed. But I would love to know what anyone else thinks? We could at least give a pretty good fight! Just something to think about.
God Bless All,
Melanie
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Wed May 23, 2001 3:15 pm
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I know that the Airforce and our wonderful government are full of crap when they deny that they don't exist.
I feel that most officials are honest when they deny any knowledge of this operation. This isn't a tiny operation, but I suspect that it is highly classified and compartmentalized so that few officals really know what is going on.
has anyone ever flew up next to one of these planes and tried to get some sort of air samples or taken pictures?
No. but this is a goal...
Also has anyone seen these planes take off or land?
Not that I am aware of. I've used Flight Explorer to learn what can be learned about these planes. And what I've found is that they are not commercial/passenger traffic. They are most likely military. But since Flight Explorer doesn't track military, the tool can't be used to locate their bases.
Someone owes us some answers!
That is true. But recent history has shown us that it often takes the military and/or government a long time before they admit their secrets. Ususally after a program is long over and somewhat of a stale issue. Chemtrails are ongoing, no announcements will be soon coming.
Maybe I am loosing my mind?
Certainly not. You are one of the few that has been observent and questioned the popularly accepted reality. That is a sign of health to me...
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WonderWmn93
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Wed May 23, 2001 4:03 pm
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Thanks Thermit, for taking the time to answer my questions. I have more of them but, I have an appointment this morning so I will return tonight.
God Bless, and have a wonder day
Melanie |
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WonderWmn93
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Thu May 24, 2001 7:31 am
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Sorry it took me so long to respond, it has been a busy day. I have to say that yes I suppose I agree with you Thermit that most Air Force officals probably don't know what is going on. I am sure that a lot of things go on behind their backs that they don't know about.
I would have thought that someone would have already tried to fly up behind one of the planes and try and get some air samples. I know again that it is easier said than done. But I also think that this would be a big step in trying to get some much needed answers. Now I don't have a plane or know anyone that does. Maybe even get more than one plane up there like 2 of them, and have someone video tape it or take pictures, just so that nothing funny happens. Accidents always have a funny way of happening. I don't know if it would even work but, boy what I would give to fly up right next to one of those planes and just flash a big birdy sign at them Does anyone know anyone with a plane or have access to one? This is something to at least consider if we want to find out the truth. I have all these ideas but don't know where to start! Does anyone else have any ideas? What are your feelings? I would like to know. Until then Goodnight for now,
God Bless,
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The Military Lies
Joined: 10 Jan 2001
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Thu May 24, 2001 5:28 pm
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Thermit.....
Very well done!
Maybe you should use those answers as a standard script, because they sure are starting to sound like one.
Ever consider taking up soothsaying? How bout signing up for the Air Farce?
Maybe I'm a bit late with that suggestion.
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The Military Lies
Joined: 10 Jan 2001
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Thu May 24, 2001 5:38 pm
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P.S.
TO ALL AIR FORCE PERSONNEL:
If you are in the United States Air Force (i.e. the sky is your job), and you are not aware of the existence of chemtrails...
You are one dumb S.O.B..
Or...
You are a liar.
One or the other. Period.
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TopGun0069
Joined: 03 Jan 2001
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Fri May 25, 2001 6:33 am
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TML-
I am neither. You are at least one.
Thanks for yet another on-topic message of great intellectual significance. Blatant finger pointing and insults directed at others on this site seems to be your specialty.
By the way, the Colonel has an invitation for you on another board. I don't know, though. Visiting a bunch of "dumb SOBs" might be a little overwhelming for you.
http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=990731050&user=Chickiedeb
 Maverick
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The Military Lies
Joined: 10 Jan 2001
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Fri May 25, 2001 5:58 pm
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Hey Topscum......
You finally said something that I agree with. I have no interest in visiting a bunch of dumb S.O.B.'s.
But I do thank you for the suggestion, agent boy.
BTW- If you ever made the mistake of thinking that I hold any interest in discussing chemtrails with agents and intellectually dishonest debunkers, you are exactly as foolish as I have known from the start. Been there.... Done that. It's more useless than a fart in a skindivers airtank. I have no interest in wasting any further time going around in circles, with people who aren't even any good at their lying, like yourself. I discuss chemtrails plenty, in other forums with good, honest people who are not trying to mislead others.
This board is so corrupted with agents and debunkers (like yourself) that it is a better use of time to point out the deceivers here, than to WASTE time discussing chemtrails with them. You will notice that I only discuss chemtrails on this board with NON-AGENTS. Go look around. See for yourself. My only interactions with the agents on this board, is to point out their $#@#!. You want me to discuss chemtrails with them? I think you may be suffering from oxygen deprivation. Anyway..... I do WHAT I want, WHEN I want.
Don't like it? Whaaaa... |
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cydoniaquest
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Fri May 25, 2001 8:38 pm
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Who needs agents and debunkers TML?.....You're doing a FINE job of corrupting the board all by yourself.
Words like "Top Scum", "agent boy"....lovely Christian phrases like "fart in a scuba diver's airtank"??
Sounds like....Sux? Could it be?
Naaaah |
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The Military Lies
Joined: 10 Jan 2001
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Sat May 26, 2001 4:04 am
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I don't need a depraved TURD like you trying to lecture me about morals, and proper behavior according to my particular faith. See, you are of the opinion that other people should be a good, submissive little Christian, while you observe NO rules of etiqutte or decency whatsoever.
NO SALE.
Apparenly, you have bought into Satans non-stop propaganda that depicts Jesus as some limp wristed, sissified little weenie. Jesus had BALLS. Jesus stood his ground UNSWERVINGLY against the LIARS and DECEIVERS of his day. Jesus's use of the phrase "brood of vipers" is no different than calling someone a "lying sack of s!@#" in modern terms.
I've got news for you, sad sack. Jesus is coming back as a warrior, and is going to lay waste to all who know him not. I would be INCREDIBLY hard pressed to believe that you have an ongoing reationship with the Lord. If you do, I would be shocked to the nth degree.
Stop trying to BS me dude. Use your phony tactics on some poor, naive newbie. Someone who is fresh, and doesn't know you and your crapola.
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cydoniaquest
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Sat May 26, 2001 4:50 am
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I'm sure Jesus would be proud.
Interestingly enough I made this same argument about the mainstream media and movie industry framing Jesus as a wimpy hippie type, which instantly threw Defender into a tizzy. My point also was that Jesus was a warrior not a wimp.
You sir, are no warrior...you could hardly be called a Christian...but you do make a good hypocrite poster boy. |
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TomE
Joined: 24 May 2001
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Sat May 26, 2001 7:03 am
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quote:
Originally posted by cydoniaquest:
I'm sure Jesus would be proud.
Interestingly enough I made this same argument about the mainstream media and movie industry framing Jesus as a wimpy hippie type, which instantly threw Defender into a tizzy. My point also was that Jesus was a warrior not a wimp.
You sir, are no warrior...you could hardly be called a Christian...but you do make a good hypocrite poster boy.
I am brand new to this message board, actually I am brand new to this type of communicating. I must say the two of you are rather entertaining. I came to this sight and registered so I could discuss chemtrails. I live in Oregon state, and up here in Portland we are getting sprayed very heavily on a daily basis. I have been watching these trails for over a year now. A friend of mine on the coast told me about chemtrails at that time. I didn't believe him until a huge plane flew over the beach in Lincoln City, OR spraying a plume that engulfed my home. I immediately called the Coast Gaurd station in Depoe Bay about 15 miles south of us and demanded to know what the hell was up. I was told that it was a military plane but what it was doing they did not know. I asked who does know, at this time I was put on hold and about ten seconds later told that the Coast Guard could be of no further help. Well I had my answer, and from that point forward I have been telling people, e-mailing Senators, governors and tv stations. I have become rather upset about all this and have been asked by my supervisors at work to quit talking about this subject at work. I too have felt that at times I was going crazy and actually have talked with a professional on the subject. I am just so damn tired of the nonstop blatant criminal activity in the skies over our heads. I tell people to ask themselves if they can remember when the blue skies remained blue skies when thay were forecast. I remember what it used to look like!!!!I have lived my entire life here and what is going on is not F^%*ing natural. We have halos around the sun daily. The planes spray in very unique patterns as if they are comunicating with some kind of code. The chemtrails start and stop in the exact same place, the direction they are flying would take them straight over the ocean. If one makes an arc in the sky, then they all start to arc. It is so blatant and I feel like they are palying with those of us who know and basically rubbing our noses in it.
Jesus, oh yeah I forgot "Jesus is not a wimp", and if you both are Christians, you should quit fighting about who is and who isn't. There will be only one judge and niether of you are it so be careful of whom you condemn.
Back to the chemtrails. I have read that some believe that the officials don't know. I do not believe this. I am thinking that there are some way down on the totem pole who actually have some knowledge of what is going on. This is the only explanation I can think of that explains why the media doesn't touch this. It is huge. I call the weather stations on a daily basis and ask them to explain why they forecast clear skies when they know damn well that by 11 AM the skies will be overcast with wispy, dripping clouds and there will be pretty halo around the sun again today. I than tell them that the same weather patterns are being reported all over the US so they can keep their "Oh it's just the way the humidity effects the BLAH BLAH BLAH" to themselves because I am not an idiot. I do not know where I am going to take it from here. I do know that I am going to raise some hell somehow. I cannot go on sitting on my ass while the powers that be may be killing my one year old daughter. I hope and pray that something breaks soon, because this is taking too much of my energy, and it has definitely messed up my serenity. Well thats all. I too needed to vent. Thank you.
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eyesopen
Joined: 25 Apr 2001
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Location: Nashville TN |
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Sat May 26, 2001 8:48 am
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TomE,
Hey I understand what you are going through 100%. It made me feel better to know that there are many others experiencing the same thing too. You are not crazy and not alone. Sorry to hear about your work being affected. Happens to me too. I have a detail oriented job and it is hard to concentrate on it when you know the biggest horror show ever is right above you. Most people it seems do not want to believe this is going on because it is too far from there own reality. Too bad for them. But more people are catching on (how could they not I wonder) and at some point I think that the numbers of aware people will be so great as to not be silenced or debunked away. So hang in there and you will find that these forums represent a great way to talk to others in your situation and to also gather facts. Hang in there! |
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Catnip57
Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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Sat May 26, 2001 9:29 am
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Welcome to the Chemtrail Board Tom E. From the sounds of your post you've been trying your best to find answers and getting nowhere fast. Take heart... you're not the only one that's been running into the brick wall of bureaucracy. After you've had a bit of time to read some of the postings by other diligent individuals you'll see that's it's darn hard to find out the truth about this issue.
One bit of advise... you have to pace yourself with this issue or you'll end up burning out or getting discouraged and giving up. And I know that baby daughter of yours is worth fighting for.
It's good to hear that you've tried to get some answers from the "proper" channels. Try to make it a point to retain copies of any and all communications with these people. Whatever their lying replies are they should be made a matter of public record. |
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