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Mech
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wow!
Swamp and Professor being civil!
It must be Christmas time. |
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the professor
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Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:06 pm
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Nah, it just gets old being insultive and I guess we've just seen the errors of our ways, I'll carry the new attitude past christmas. |
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Dec 25, 2003 9:08 pm
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What actually happened Mech, is you stepped into an alternative universe!!
Yes, I agree, Prof, we can call Dems, Repubs, or whoever whatever names we want, but at least wave to each other.
I actually want to see everybody at least being polite to each other. A New year's resolution fro myself. |
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Dionysus
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Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:35 am
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"I actually want to see everybody at least being polite to each other"
Well the way politics (are) that condition will never exist
Sunday on c-span the britsh "house of commons" broadcast will verify this,
and is very entertaining and informative
universal peace and goodwill only exists when all people practice it
individual peace and goodwill is a choice |
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Swamp Gas
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Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:09 pm
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I agree Dionysus.
That's why i can get along with Conservatives and Liberals that are not too extreme.
The Radicals of the Left and Right are the problems, that keep people at each others throats.
Maybe that's the Plan. Could you imagine if we all found a common ground to be pissed off at?
That would be a step in the right direction. |
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the professor
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Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:05 am
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I think we already have found our common ground but it went over everyones head. |
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Swamp Gas
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Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:19 am
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Affirmative Prof,
It's up to us from opposite sides of the same coin to set an example.
Tough job, but somebody has to do it.
Speaking of weird scaling and abstract tuning, did you ever hear of the classical composer Olivier Messiaen? We saw his "Turangalia" in Carnegie Hall a little while ago, and it hilarious watching people that were not used to such bizarre and uneven tones literally run out of the theater. He was a bird lover (he started the Cornell Library of bird sounds back in the 50's), and would use the Thermin and Ondoline to mimic bird calls. Lovely, Soul-Lifting music and theater, AND he was a devout Christian.
http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/messiaen.html
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the professor
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Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:29 am
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That is awesome hopefully what he has accomplished will never be lost. Makes me wonder how the flamenco style will be thought of in another 50 years with the ever changing musical direction these days, I think it's vital not to lose the roots. Ever hear of Paco De Luca or Al Dimeola? the most impressive classical guitar I have yet to hear. |
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Swamp Gas
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Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:51 am
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Did you hear Messiaen's music? I'll give you a link tomorrow if you didn't
I am very familiar with Paco and Al Dimeola. I saw Di Meola open for the English Progressive band UK, in Sacramento in 1978.
Wow! There were so many notes, I was blinded.
My friend played in a band with him for awhile here in NJ, Tony Defalco was his name, who also was on the George Crumb recording of makrocosmos 3. Al was from Garfield I beieve, about 2 miles from where I grew up. He is a contemporary of mine.
One of my favorite Doors songs was "Spanish Caravan". When I was in "Strange Daze" in LA back in 1980, that was my 2nd favorite song to play live.
Two shippets of Messiaen's music from "Turangalia". It is very weird, so be prepared.
http://www.noble-gas.com/intro.mp3
http://www.noble-gas.com/turan3.mp3
His "Ascention" symphoney is very spiritual also.
[Edited 4 times, lastly by swamp gas on 12-27-2003] |
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Mech
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Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:51 pm
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Wow...Al Dimeola...there's a name I haven't heard in a while.
I have "Elegant gypsy" on CD somewhere. I need to dig that one out.
Flaming guitar! |
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the professor
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Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:03 pm
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Wasn't able to link music on the classical page, the two links you supplied are very abstract for orchestra music it's all over the place but yet goes together perfectly in a chaotic symphony. I like it! |
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Swamp Gas
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Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:44 pm
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Messiaen wrote some very beautiful spiritual music. such as "Chronochromie", or "Symphony for the End of Time".
Bernard Hermann (North by Northwest, Vertigo, Day the Earth Stood Still, 7th Voyage of Sinbad, Citizen Kane) and him were good friends, and you can hear Messian's influence in Hermann's works, who in turn was Jerry Goldsmith's and Danny Elfman's main influence. Messian was a student of Debussey, and continued the Avant Garde of classical, with others such as Stravinsky, Scriabin, Boulez, Schoenberg, Bartok, and Khodaly. |
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