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Excerpt from David Icke's new book, TALES FROM THE TIME LOOP

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Mech





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PostFri Jan 02, 2004 4:11 am  Reply with quote  

Reptiles?

I'm not going to go there.

No offense.

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Boomer Chick





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PostFri Jan 02, 2004 7:02 pm  Reply with quote  

Great articles, KNOWTHIS!

About Castaneda? All I could respond to with his "Children of the Matrix" were the quotes given. So I reacted to them only. As far as the other books, I read them both (his first two) when they first came out. It's been years since I've reveiwed, and yes, I never felt a sense of powerlessness in those at all. And he seemed to, like you said, just be dealing with energies and his "allies" played a role, too. I hear ya. But authors change as they go through life, and I can't help but pick up on his more negative less empowering bent in what little was presented in the new book. Would have to read it to get a fair perspective, of course.

Just a reaction to an excerpt!

Hey Mech! I poo-pooed the reptilian agenda for many years! But more seems to be coming out to support the possiblity. Chances are the investation will clear up and most humans won't even know about it --

But his main point, that the human aspect of the Reptilian race did merge genetically with a certain amount of people and those people, supposedly the Illuminati select (British Royal Family,Bush family etc. which I admit is a weird and almost nutzoid postulate) --- contain brains that allow access and overcontrol through dimensional and consciousness manipulation by the Reps. Some know and some don't know consciously. That is the theory. You are free to reject it or disagree -- but that's what it is.

What smacks me in the head about this theory or any theory that aknowledges an external power force divorced from each of our own individual wills, is that it:

1. in a psychological sense takes power of individual responsibility away from those who should be held accountable and transfers that responsiblity to an external foreign entity, not just a force, but a controlling entity itself. This changes our whole supposed notion of how we are as beings in the world and the universe at a psychological level.

2. is a creepy thought (hehehe!)engendering fear, but yet could stir mechanisms to prevent overcontrol and stimulate energies within us to preserve our freedoms and liberties.

3. forces us to recall that in Biblical and other spiritual writings, evil entities are recognized, but our free-wills and love energy reigns supreme in the message.

4. stimulates us to think that there are stories of possessions of various kinds and actual cases witnessed.

5. relates to the notion of overcontrol of a dominating human cabal, and one step further, a dominating alien race -- it's not such a big leap in the "disempowerment" message, is there? It's the same: someone else controls our lives or seeks to control it. Perhaps a mindset of feeling disempowered fuels the theory itself and those who tend to adhere to the notion of conspiracy itself are those who psychologically feel "disempowered." But does that mean it's actually a false reality possibility?

6. creates in me a force to fight this overall notion, trying to be objective in its possiblity, trying to stay open to all possible sentient forces and possibilities.

7. forces us to realize a battle within us all and without of evil verses good, of empowerment verses disempowerment and overcontrol, and losing our free-wills and choices seems to be the greatest threat of all for we inherently know that this is our reality and right-- we are ONE -- and this is our world in which to learn and grow. Peace and enlightenment are our birthrights through evolutionary means. Threats to this matrix we have jointly created as a species seems to be the major concern -- the bottom line.

So where you stand, Mech, is not so far from the one more step to accept alien control of the "evil" humans. I seem to be able to flit from theory to theory and make sense of it on multi-levels. Maybe my reality has been cracked open in order to accept possibilities and see them as logical. But then again, I fight the notion and go back to my center of knowing that my spirit, my reason for being is still intact, not threatened, and I am in charge of my own life, my own spirit and will contribute to the concept of our spiritual ONEness and the ultimate goal of world peace. This is the best tack to take regardless of the various forces. We must each of us be active in our own spiritual development and do what we can to express that love to all others, to unite our nation and the world and it is how we will change our world and protect our species from ANY threats to our continuance in this matrix. We stay true to truth, true to our values of brotherhood and fairness, and we work toward the goal. It does not have to be done in anger. Anger feeds the other side, as Star Wars so eloquently illustrates -- fight with the sword of truth and light! Courage!

bc

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mark sky





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PostWed Jan 07, 2004 3:41 am  Reply with quote  

wow, I got late to this party
To see 5+ hours of David Icke in action on tape at the first Conspiracy Conference in San Jose California (taped) click here http://conspiracycon.com/order_conspiracycon1.html
He is absolutly wonderfull in person, such a sence of humor while knowing all the dark issues.The tape is really great, and it gives you hope in the darkest hours, and insight to the where and why.
Stewart was in Southern Oregon Coast several years ago, I think its the same Stewart S.?
Brown on the bottom and Violet up top?
tip of long island? we met as well
You know the reptilian thing has kept many people unable to listen to the rest of Ickes work. I don't know if that is good or bad.
we all have a reptilian brain stem down under our mammailian crown, so i don't know what all the fuss is about. But a fuss it is.
Funny but the devought christians really have trouble with reptiallian, even though reptilian and satan / devil / are so associated.
But perhaps this keeps David from being murdered, because since he is "obviously a nut that no one takes serious because of the alien reptilian" he is of little danger to TPTB. Should he shed that cloak and get a wider audience, well his life would be shorter than a microbiologists.
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PostWed Jan 07, 2004 6:17 am  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by mark sky:
Stewart was in Southern Oregon Coast several years ago, I think its the same Stewart S.?
Brown on the bottom and Violet up top?
tip of long island? we met as well




Yes - that's Stewart alright! Brown for grounding, and violet for the crown chakra.

I have not seen Stewart or Janet in years! He was best man at my brother's wedding - they still keep in touch on a weekly basis. He helped my father last summer when he was in the hospital on his death bed - which in turn helped all of us. I did all the original typing and graphics for his first book. Funny thing is, I never got a copy of the published version but I still have all the original material.

As a matter of fact, he is what put me on the path to finding my true self and changed my perception/awareness of reality. He also further inspired my interests in meditation, dream interpretation, sybolism, numerology - all around healing of the mind!
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Ellyn





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PostThu Jan 08, 2004 1:25 am  Reply with quote  

I am in the midst of reading David Icke's CHIDREN OF THE MATRIX, HOW AN INTERDIMENSIONAL RACE HAS CONTROLLED THE WORLD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS--AND STILL DOES. I've read about a hundred pages of a 443 page book and am extremely impressed with the material that David Icke has made available to his readers. This material has been made available in bits and pieces by other writers, but David Icke has taken the time to put it all together in a very fine package with a ribbon tied around it and a bow on top.

The fact is that THE FACTS ARE THERE, and up to now they have been suppressed and kept from people by those who have control over what's gets seen and heard. This book addresses so many subjects that have left question marks in people's minds for centuries due to lack of having all the pieces to a particular puzzle.

David Icke does not claim to be absolutely clear on all the particulars of the past, but he most definitely does present numerous facts that cannot be disputed and which change one's perception of a great many events and their origins.

Icke discusses at length the contents of the tens of thousands of ancient clay tablets discovered in Mesopotamia in the mid-19th century, which those in control of our education system are conveniently ignoring--as though they had never been discovered.

Also covered are the two different ways of controlling: overt and covert, and how covert control is much easier and more effective than overt control--especially for large populations.

I most definitely would recommend this book and others by David Icke. At the very least, they will activate a great deal of original thinking among those who choose to read them. Just learning the origins of words with which we are all familiar, such as "sir," "sin," "God," "Adam," "Eve," for example, is in my opinion reason enough to find this book of real value.

For those who have a real interest in learning the origin of the Illuminati, reading this book would be an excellent place to begin your investigation.

I would be very happy if all those concerned with conspiracies of all kinds could find David Icke's books and read them; he presents much new information not previously or conveniently available before. For many, it could be a life-changing event!




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JerseyBluEyz





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PostThu Jan 08, 2004 5:44 am  Reply with quote  

Ellyn:

Thanks for that synopsis. In fact, I would not mind hearing more as you get deeper into the book! The study of Ancient Civilizations has always been a hobby of mine too, so I would not mind hearing more in that regard either.
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KNOW-THIS





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PostThu Jan 08, 2004 6:06 am  Reply with quote  

THE METAGENE FACTOR: Quote from "Blue Planet Project"- a notebook made by a scientist who worked with Greys and Reptilians for the government:

The Metagene is a biological variant lying dormant in select members of the human race [especially on planet earth], until an instant of extraordinary physical and emotional over-stress activates it. (Apparently a latent self-preservation 'gene' capable of producing seemingly 'superhuman' abilities in earth humans during times of extreme stress or crisis. - Branton) ...

That's an energochemical, in response to adverse stimuli. A chromosomal combustion takes place, as the Metagene takes the source of biostress, be it chemical, radioactivity, or what ever and turns the potential energoresponse into a catalyst for genetic change. The main focus of the catalyst power is a gland in the middle of the human brain called the PINEAL gland, and the nutrient for increasing the Pineal's action is the adrenaline. The Metagene factor gives the ability of Psionic Power [for better or worse].

The main interest of the Aliens, especially the Grays, is to understand and control the Metagene for their own race. They try to do this using Biological Experiments to make Hybrids from both humans and aliens. They believe perhaps the MEN FROM PLANET EARTH ARE THE DEADLIEST CREATURES IN THE UNIVERSE. Because ONLY on Earth people are apparently capable of generating the Metagene Factor, which means Natural Psionics ability, "Real Power" "(See [url=http://www.themarsrecords.com)]www.themarsrecords.com)[/url]
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