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letxa2000
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 Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:27 pm
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Originally posted by Boomer Chick:
There are links to Thomas, links to Carnicom and I refuse to do your work for you, Letxa!
You're certainly welcome to refuse to do anything. I'm just asking for help locating information I have been unable to find, including at the sites you have listed. I've now clicked on almost every link on the main carnicom page and I've seen pictures of contrails, satellite images, discussions about the earth's rotational velocity changing, discussions on time, blaming the lack of visible stars on chemtrails (rather than just simple pollution caused by 6 billion inhabitants), a sample impeachment resolution against George Bush, and somehow using aerosol operations as a common theme.
Yet my question (a scientific explanation of the why "chemtrails" are different than contrails and how to distinguish them) was never answered. The closest I've found on Carnicom was http://www.carnicom.com/model1.htm, but their conclusion that "If "contrails" by appearance transform into "clouds", it can be concluded that the
material of composition is not water vapor." is just plain wrong. It suggests that water vapor in contrails is somehow different than water vapor that forms clouds--but it's all water vapor, so the conclusion that a contrail can't transform into a cloud just doesn't make sense and requires more explanation before being accepted as fact. But no further explanation is provided. That page was on its way to answer my question, but just didn't get there.
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I'm done! Carnicom is also offered as a link on educate yourself and you're just plain lazy!
Whatever. I'm pleased to see you are so anxious to help someone accept your beliefs. But if you don't care, that's fine. Maybe someone else here will be willing to help me.
Or perhaps everyone here lives in a little box and is unwilling to help those that are currently outside the box. But, heck, even Jehovah's Witnesses--that live in their own little world--go out and try to get the masses to listen to them. They don't just say "Go read the Bible, do your homework" and expect people to come around to their point of view. They make an effort to provide proof of their beliefs and try to provide Biblical citations to support them.
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Sorry, but that's how you're coming across, lazy and bigoted! Bigoted means holding closed minded views toward anything that to you smacks of "strange" or "unusual." A "turn-off." Why not just skip that stuff?
I did skip that stuff. But out of curiosity... I believe you said in another thread that you are a Christian. Do you believe in that new-age solution to chemtrails? Reciting some chemtrail declaration to make them go away? Do you believe that works?
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You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!
So far you've lead me to a mirage.  I've read many links you've provided and am still no closer to answering my underlying question. The carnicom link above was on its way, but just fell flat and missed the boat.
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Let's put it this way. If you were given an assignment in college to do a research paper on chemtrails and carnicom, Thomas's site, Barium Blues, and other links were given or you found them to be the most informational and you were allowed and encouraged to do online research, would you go back to the instructor or professor and complain that people were posting books and weird spiritual mumbo-jumbo or would you just go for the articles to support your research?
That would depends on whether or not I was doing research on the general belief of chemtrails or whether or not I was actually trying to believe them myself. I could certainly write a whole ton of stuff about the belief in chemtrails based on the links you've provided, but I haven't found anything that convinces me they are right--nor could I convince anyone else they were right based on what I've seen so far.
One can research anything, even if they don't believe in it. One can write a paper on any subject, even if they don't believe it. But actually believing something doesn't just require information, it requires compelling information. And that's what I've found to be lacking, so far.
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Please! I will not hand feed you links from Carnicom's site! I read and read and read on that site and on both sites I gave you are the most informational when using the links as any online. There's also http://radarmatrix.com and a host of other links even listed on Carnicom's!
I truly don't care at this point! If you really want to know, you will do what it takes, otherwise, just face the fact that you don't want to know. Like any research project you must sift through some articles that aren't informational and only include the ones that are truly informational and not just theories.
Sigh... If you don't care, stop responding. Let someone else help me. That's fine.
I DO want to know. And I would assume that you (collectively) would want to reach out to those that don't know and convince them. But your attitude is completely counter-productive. If that's your attitude, the chemtrail issue would be best helped by your remaining silent and letting those that want to help, help.
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Back in the early nineties the skies were often clear -- totally! Did jets and airliners change their jet fuel formulas? I see what I see in the skies and this confirms all the reading.
I don't remember clear skies from my childhood, neither in California nor in Denver. But I certainly can't prove that... but it's part of my first-hand information that I know from my life, looking up... I see nothing different today than in the past.
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Please don't respond to this line by line -- your time would be better spent in research!
And yours would be much better spent simply providing me with a link to the information I want. I trust it's out there and in the time it took you to write your post I'm sure you could have dug it up and given it to me rather than pawning me off on Carnicom and asking me to dig through all kinds of stuff unrelated to the question I am asking. I think it's mostly "busy work" you are assigning me and reading all that stuff hasn't brought me any closer to an answer on my existing basic questions that I've repeated so many times that everyone (including myself) is probably getting sick of them. |
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Mech
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Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:43 pm
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