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shatoga





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PostMon Feb 16, 2004 1:51 am  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by Show-Me Truth:
Isn't that{garbage can} where Bush,
and the rest of the Neo Con Fascists have placed the Bill of Rights after first running it through the shredder. SmT


NO!
The Bill of rights is printed on the White House and RNC tolet paper;
That they may treat it as they always have (despite meaningless lip service to the documents they've always detested/ Lincoln was the first President to suspend Habeus Corpus and the bill of Rights)

quote:
Originally posted by Show-Me Truth:

How have the neo-Cons like a deadly virus been able to infect those Libertarian/Republican minded people that use real Freedom and Justice as an underlying guideing principle?? SmT


NO!
they have told those people the lies they want to hear, and Moderates and Liberals have told the unwelcome truth instead/
Welcome reassuring lies won out over unwelcome difficult truths.
(As Rush proves daily)

quote:
Originally posted by Show-Me Truth:
I feel strongly that this wicked Cabal (minority that seeks to drive the majority) is capable of anything and I wouldn't rule out a larger scale killing that this time would be in the tens if not hundreds of thousands. SmT

They outdid the origional in surpassing the Reichstag fire by staging 911.
They are capable of any act in their pragmatic "end justifies the means" rationalization of evil for the sake of greed and lust for power.

quote:
Originally posted by Show-Me Truth:
The anti-freedom forces are very much alive and active and just waiting for the right time to further the escalation of the Satanic NWO. SmT

Satan said (a voice from the fire at a black mass in 1955:
"There are numbers I despise;
But I know them and they make me wise;
I know what numbers are all about;
I hold them up, I turn them about.
Nine upside down helps me put on my crown."
from the book written by the intended human sacrifice at that mass "Michelle Remembers"
'splained:
quote:
Originally posted by Show-Me Truth:
The U.S. Constitution is holding back the flood (remember the contract they SWORE to uphold???) and those who seek it's destruction of protections are like salivating wolves at the door. Be not deceived. Many will come as wolves dressed in sheeps clothing. And the very Elect will be Deceived. Don't be one of them.

SmT



Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 7 In context: Matthew 7:14-16)


Matthew 24:11
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 24 In context: Matthew 24:10-12)


Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 24 In context: Matthew 24:23-25)


Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 13 In context: Mark 13:21-23)

"I don't have any respect for the Religious Right." -Barry Goldwater
Flo (insulted): Why, I've never been so insulted in my life!
Hackenbush (after looking at his watch): Well, it's early yet.
a Day at the Races
Remember selection 2000-
with it's careful recounts;
the Republican election official posturing for the cameras-
by holding a "hanging chad" ballot up to the light and turning it about to slow the count.
Remember the Supreme Court anointing Bush by
six Justices turning a lifetime of decisions upside down
as States Rights Judges ruled that Florida Courts couldn't interpret Florida election laws?
The Conservatives' God predicted all that back in 1955!
_________________________________
"There are numbers I despise;
but I know them & they make wise.
I know what numbers are all about;
I count then carefully, I turn them about.
Six upside down
Helps me put on my crown."
"Satan's voice-from-the-fire"-1955-black mass,
re: "Michelle Remembers" pp236
_____________________________________
Pat Robertson had brainwashed his flock for years
to have a disdain for honest elections.
(in his master's service)
"I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise.
There needs to be some kind of protection for
the minority which the white people represent now,
and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."
--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 3/18/92

What does this have to do with environmentalism?
Democrats are the only truely GREEN party in America Today.
The false prophet Ralph Nader
(anti-corporate crusader nader who owns over 6 million in dorporate stock.
(worships Mammon like all those right wing preachers who preach Republicanism instead of Christianity)
Nader deceived the greens into not voting for Gore (environmental activist far more than long time environmentalist Kerry)

False prophets indeed!

By claiming there is no difference twixt Democrats and Republicans,
Nader enabled Bush to pass the safe forest clear cut logging at taxpayers' expense initiative.
enabled Bush to let Rnron write energy policy and environmental regulations that allowed coal fired power plants to not install scrubbers, but instead to continue to pollute our air and water with methyl mercury.

Europe has begun to protect the environment,
but the USA is still the world's worst pollutor.

solution?
Quit believing the 'no difference' lies and vote Democratic for all offices.
They are America's only true GREEN Party!
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halva





Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 513
Location: Greece
PostMon Feb 16, 2004 4:57 am  Reply with quote  

I don't think 'third parties' are a solution. What the Synaspismos is trying to do at the European level will only be of value if it triggers a corresponding movement on the 'right'. This is more possible in Europe because of the need for pan-European parties in the interests of European integration. The conservative parties in Europe are currently even more nationally-centred and anti-European than the socialist parties. There is a perceived need at the elite level for a pan-European right-wing party, but the elite cannot create such a party. To do that an input, in fact an initiative, is needed from the grass roots. If it starts from the top it will be viewed by suspicion by the people it has to mobilise.

In any case if an authentically pan-European two party system is created and succeeds in boosting the European integration process and challenging US global power (not militarily but through economics: the collapse of the dollar, bankruptcy etc.) then there will be a reversal of influence and instead of the right-wing and left-wing parties in Europe modelling themselves on the US Republicans and Democrats the opposite will occur and new right-wing and left-wing parties will arise in the United States.

Perhaps a Nader/Greens style party will replace the Democrats but there will be another European-influenced conservative party replacing the Republicans also.

Mike Ruppert is a politician who in my opinion should play an important role in a new American conservative party. I have tried to get leftists in Europe to support him, but they won't do it, with the exception of that one-off event in Berlin last September which does not look as if it has led anywhere. Perhaps Ruppert has another constituency in Europe.



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