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shatoga
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 Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:57 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Boomer Chick:
Actually this administration and the majority of Republicans now desire a [b]theocracy in which public schools are dismantled, the poor and elderly ignored, and Biblical dogma (including the Old Testament) overpowering the Constitution! Other agendas, too! Please read that thread!
The neocon aspect is just one of the power arms of this sickening movement!
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BC,
I'll read that thread.
I believe that those (so called)"Christian Conservatives"
are neither Christians nor Conservatives.
I also believe they are not representative of "most Republicans";
Just a vocal active minority faction which has excessive power in that party.
"Many fine decent people are Republicans"--President Bill Clinton (televised Town Hall Meeting 1996)
Unfortunately,
It fits my view of who the neo-cons really are.
It was a similar "Christian" Faction in the Reichstag that gave Hitler the necessary votes for the legislation that made him absolute dictator of Germany.
He was to have repaid them with a United Europe.
A newer version of "the Holy Roman Empire";
A "theological State".
Different names/ same goal.
Even the words are little changed between then and now.
IMHO
The parallels in rhetoric are unmistakable:
"I think 'one man, one vote,' just unrestricted democracy, would not be wise.
There needs to be some kind of protection
for the minority which the white people represent now,
and they need and have a right to demand a protection of their rights."
--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 3/18/92
"Die Deutschen Leute verlangen Schutz!"--
(The German people demand protection!) Adolph Hitler
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens,
nor should they be considered patriots.
This is one nation under God."-- George Bush
"Jews should not be considered citizens of Germany."-- Adolph Hitler
What's wrong with the right will not be cured quickly.
Republicans will have to stop trusting anyone with an (R) next to their' name;
and just because someone calls himself a "Conservative" does not make him a Conservative.
Democrats are in danger of the same.
Their common goal to save America from Bush,
and stop the 'one-party-rule' neo-cons;
can lead to trusting 'any Democrat' to be preferable to 'any Republican'.
There is both good and bad on all sides.
IMHO
Time for true conservatives to have a close look at the Libertarian Party.
Mostly former Republicans who were outraged at the increasing socialism in the Republican Party as neo-cons took over.
Nixon's "wage and price controls" in peacetime and Replacing Free China/Taiwan on the UN Security Council, with Communist China
was "the last straw"/pragmatism
that led to the founding of the Libertarian Party.
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Mech
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Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:37 pm
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But Shatoga...
I thought all Republicans and Conservatives were "bad" ?
Shatoga: "Democrats common goal is to save America from Bush,
and stop the 'one-party-rule'
Baloney.
Shatoga: ...can lead to trusting 'any Democrat' to be preferable to 'any Republican'.
Trusting "any Democrat" without doing some research combined without rational thinking is stupid if you ask me.
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Swamp Gas
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Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:07 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Mech:
Trusting "any Democrat" without doing some research combined without rational thinking is stupid if you ask me.
With the odds that Kerry will be getting elected in November, we should be MORE cautious even than Bush in certain ways. I heard Kerry saying on NAFTA that he'd require companies 3 months to inform you they are outsourcing your job, and why they are doing it. Big Freakin' Deal!!! That is utter BS, and the companies could care less whether you know or not. As Hewlett Packard and Intel's CEO's said recently, "We are sending your jobs overseas. Get used to it"
I think a Kerry election is better than Bush on Civil Rights, Environment, and Economy, but on Free Trade, No!
Liberals, Libertarians, Progressives, and Environmentalists should be not relaxing that a Demo will be president. We have to keep a close watch on Kerry, as Sharpton and Kucinich are doing.
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Mech
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Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:12 pm
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Id like to see a Ron Paul/Kucinich ticket.
Constitutional and fiscal conservatism with a socially liberal consciousness.
BOTH are in favor of dumping Nafta/Gatt.
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Swamp Gas
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Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:26 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Mech:
Id like to see a Ron Paul/Kucinich ticket.
Constitutional and fiscal conservatism with a socially liberal consciousness.
BOTH are in favor of dumping Nafta/Gatt.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 02-27-2004]
You got that right, Mech!
But there's one problem......Those two are too honest!
 
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Mech
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Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:30 pm
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Yeah..I guess the corrupt system favored so much by BOTH parties might collapse and the ILLUSION shattered.
Can't have that.
Gotta keep the sheeple trapped in the matrix and BUSY, BUSY, BUSY "down on the farm".
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:00 am
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On honest politicians:
Once upon a time there was an honest President.
He had a meeting with the former president's CIA chief who wanted to stay on the job.
He fired that corrupt cia chief.
He had a problem.
the former cia chief had spent billions in a faraway nation called iran.
that chief had the power, as a private citizen, to call in a few favors.
among those favors were:
The USMarines to NOT repel an attack on the embassy in Iran.
the cia financed Ayotallah to overthrow the cia financed Shah of Iran.
the american media to enact anti Carter programs such as "America Held Hostage" nightly to make the sitting President look bad.
the Reagan/Bush campaign to promise forbidden-byUS-law weapons and technology to Iran in return for a deal to NOT RELEASE the US hostages until Reagan (the puppet actor) and Bush (the actual person in control of the government) took power.
the same day Reagan took the oath of office,
Iran relseses the hostages.
anyone not intelligent enough to understand the manipulation and sacrifice of ordinary peoplesw' lives to achieve NWO ends,
is beyond discussion on this or any topic.
Kerry is better than Bush.
My neighbor's brindle dog is better than Bush.
the dog would not sacrifice ordinary innocent americans to achieve NWO goals;
Bush will send any one of us to death to achieve his daddy's ends.
Vote against all
Republicans in 2004!
Oppose the NWO.
(The NWO in Amerika is the Republican National Committee)
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Mech
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Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:09 am
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And the Democrats aren't part of the NWO and actively involed?
That's a foolish notion.
I'll say one thing about BUsh Co.
They are the most blatant big government socialists ive ever seen...makes Clinton seem tame by comparison.
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JerseyBluEyz
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Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:21 am
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quote:
Originally posted by shatoga:
the same day Reagan took the oath of office,
Iran relseses the hostages.
Talk about the same day - wasn't it within MINUTES of his taking the oath?
I remember the day those hostages came home. I was at West Point, standing along side the road (in the embankment of trees) greeting them as they drove into the campus. You should have seen the masses of people that came out that day! Even the hostages were rendered speechless.
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:32 am
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quote:
Originally posted by JerseyBluEyz:
Talk about the same day - wasn't it within MINUTES of his taking the oath?
I remember the day those hostages came home. I was at West Point, standing along side the road (in the embankment of trees) greeting them as they drove into the campus. You should have seen the masses of people that came out that day! Even the hostages were rendered speechless.
I'd refused a West Point (2nd year) appointment.
Mech should know;
a big broom went through the Democratic Party after Republicans took control in 1994.
all democrats who had any skeletons in their' closets got taken down.
only the lily clean survived.
If Republicans go through a similar cleansing,
I will then believe those left are almost all good guys and gals.
I know Democrats still sell-out on an individual basis.
that Republicans have sold their souls to the NWO on a collective basis colors my opinions and that of fellow intel analysts who still love america.
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