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Originally posted by Boomer Chick:
Did I tell you that Lori Price over at legitgov actually knows OB1? It's such a small world!
Truth seekers just tend to aggregate together!
How funny - stories like that just prove it's a small world huh?
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html
Former German Defence Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11
I heard this intervew on Alex Jones Comercial Short Wave Program, A Week
ago, Which also airs on many AM & FM comercial radio stations.
(12172 KHZ 8 to 11 AM EST)
This Man was the equivalent of Collin Powell or Condi Rice in Germany.
Long but worthwhile.
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Alex Jones All r
Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11:
Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow
Please understand that this is a transcript made directly from a live
radio interview. It may not conform to exemplary standards of grammar.
Mr. Von Buelow's first language is German.
Alex Jones: All right my friends. We are already into the third and
final hour of this global transmission against tyranny. And, in the
last hour we had Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order and of
course father of Mel Gibson, on talking about the different key
issues. In this hour, we are joined by Andreas von Bulow and he was
the federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of
Defense, been in the German government since the 70s. And up until
just a few years ago he was also the Minister of Technology and he has
written a book that according to Reuters is the best seller in Germany
that translates into '9 11 and the CIA.' And he's not the only German
minister who has said we are looking at world fascism here and a
powerful military industrial complex institution engineering terror
attacks to scare us into submission. And, Andre von Bulow, err
Andreas von Bulow, we are so honored to have a man of your stature and
obvious intelligence and your courage on this show. Thank you for
joining us.
Andreas von Bulow: Hello and it's wonderful speaking, yes.
AJ: Uh, we're going to break here in a few minutes and come back in a
longer segment but for those who just joined us, tell us a little bit
more about yourself and your book please.
AvB: Well I...I have spent over twenty-five years in politics and now I
am out. And in the end I was Minister of Technology before I was
Secretary of Defense. Then I had to deal in a commission on East-West
transactions about the secret service of East Germany. And this was
very interesting inside story because of the Western side doing deals
violating the laws in Eastern Eur, err, East Germany, European Community
and the United States. It was always two parts dealing with East and
West and this bought me a lot of insights in the secret service
business.
AJ: And in fact I remember reading about the huge investigations you did
that was massive international headlines concerning the Stasi and how
different governments had actually been working with these people. If
you would like you are of course welcome to get into that as well.
Again folks, the equivalent secretary of defense, minister of defense of
Germany, and of course technology, the head of that. Just absolutely
amazing. Your best selling book, and I wish there was an English
translation because I would certainly buy one. My wife does read
German. But please, tell us about your book.
AvB: Well I was writing another book and then 9 11 happened. And it
was strange to me watching- we all were horrified what was going on and
said well that's impossible, how could a crew of people manage do such
horrible things? At the first hours, we didn't know who was it, then
within hours it came out that probably Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was
behind it. And then within two or three days these 19 people came
out. And my objection was- my looking at it- to whom does it bring
good? And I found out that it is rather damaging to the Islamic world
and perhaps it might be not only be a terrorist attack but perhaps it
might be a covert operation. I watched the scenery, what was going
on, what the American government-
AJ: Minister, minister, we've got to break; we'll be back in three
minutes. Absolutely, we'll go into this in great detail. We are
honored to have you. We're talking to Andreas von Bulow. We'll be
back. (Fade to bumper music)
(Commercial Break)
AJ: That's right my friends it's eight minutes ten seconds into this 3rd
hour of global transmission. I am so honored to have on Andreas von
Bulow former German defense minister, head of their defense department
and of course until just a few years ago, head of their technology
system which is, that is a very high level post, just as high level as
defense minister there in Deutschland. And he's written a best
selling book and I've read some quotes out of it that have been
translated into English. And the title translated is '911 and the
CIA.' And he lays out the evidence of the military-industrial complex
carrying out the attacks. Also we have lined up Michael Micher.
And he of course was the English environmental minister who resigned
over Tony Blair's fraud. He has written articles saying that if they
didn't carry it out, they certainly funded and allowed them to take
place. So, if you've got a brain, it's clear, and Mr. von Bulow, very
intelligent individual has gone over this. So, sir, you've said that
on the day of the event you began to look at it, you began to research
it. And, from your specific expertise in intelligence and military
and technology, you know heading up entire sectors of the world's third
largest economy. Please discuss for us your research and how you
wrote the book and what really happened on 9 11.
AvB: Err, 9 11, I just watched the scenery. And I said there must
have- gone something very [wrong]. I watched the TV for example and
in the same minute that the TV showed the planes driving into the World
Trade Center, you found these Palestinians dancing and laughing. And
a few days later one could find out that this was fake. It was made
by a TV crew of the defense ministry in Israel and they gave candies to
the people and they laughed about it. And, nobody told it. And the
question for me was who brought this TV stuff right in time into the
national networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so on. And then we
look for the, the story came out that this had been done by bin Laden
and his Al-Qaeda and these 19 people of Muslim background, which did
this. And you could watch the Persian journalist, and nobody showed
up. Not one Arabic name was showing up there. And then one is
interested to see video because all these 19 passengers must have passed
the video, a lot of video cameras in Dallas, and New York, and Logan in
Boston, and Portland in the North. You don't get this stuff. And
then we're looking for the black boxes and we don't get them. And the
story how these, these World Trade Center buildings broke down, they
were constructed against an approach by airplanes. And, the firemen
of New York, they were able to come to the floor where the fires were
burning, and they said, the fire commander said he needed two teams,
small, to fight these fires and then it's finished. So the heat, it
is impossible that the heat was as high as it has been written in the
papers and in all the media.
AJ: And then, and then the feds declared that all firefighter tapes
malfunctioned, turns out that wasn't true; we've got copies of them.
And it did say that the firefighters said the fires were out or almost
out. There is video of people standing in the holes of the buildings
with no fire around them. And we're going to go over the evidence
that's in your book, sir, and why you came to these educated
conclusions.
AvB: Yeah.
AJ: But, first I want to ask you: have you heard the new developments,
the owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV and said that they
blew Building Seven up. The forty-seven story building that wasn't
even hit by an aircraft. This just broke two weeks ago, have you
heard this?
AvB: Sure, I have heard this. I follow the whole scenery.
Normally, it's coming out in Germany, but it's coming out in your
country. It's a fascinating background to, to do research via
Internet because all this stuff is broadly spread over the Internet.
So it's very easy to follow, but in the main media you don't get to hear
about this.
AJ: Well tell you what, later this hour, it's only three minutes of
audio clips, we will air from the PBS documentary 'America Rebuilding,'
where they admit they blew up WTC 7. Now, that's important because
they said that building fell from fire even though it wasn't hit by a
plane. And now, he slips up and says we decided to demolish it on
9-11, but then the mainstream media just ignores that. This is a
public admission, sir.
AvB: Yeah, yeah especially that the CIA headquarters in New York was in,
was within this building. I think the- how do you call it- the
emergency center for the governor, the major, err, mayor was-
AJ: Mayor and governor.
AvB: -mayor was in this building. So, it was not hit by a plane, and
the fire was very low. And the surrounding steel constructions were
left over and didn't collapse. But, the Building 7 collapsed in late
afternoon at 5 o' clock I think.
AJ: Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attacks sir,
out of the building and so conveniently got rid of the evidence in one
fell swoop.
AvB: This is one theory, it might be. It's convincing but one has to
get the whole proof. But the problem is that the elements for proof
are destroyed.
AJ: Also-
AvB: You will find them in Japanese cars and in ships of the American
Navy.
AJ: Also, sir, we have NORAD standing down for an hour and twenty five
minutes but when we had the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for
fifteen minutes, he was surrounded in eighteen minutes by five F-16s so
why did NORAD stand down?
AvB: Well, this is a big question because it happened in 2001 more than
60 times. That, fighter[s] went up to clear what has been done to
airplanes that showed some irregularities. At 9 11, four planes for
two hours were able to drive around, fly around even one hour in the
direction going toward the west and then turn around and then
comeback. The military air force was not able to interdict them.
It's [un]imaginable. And the whole story is totally unclear what
happened between the Federal Aviation Agency (Administration) and
NORAD.
AJ: Absolutely, now I don't know if you've seen the associated press but
the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Center that
day of flying jets into buildings in New York and DC. My internal
sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them have said on
this show that they were told to stand down because it was quote 'just a
drill.' That's how you get the good military to stand down; you tell
them it's just a drill. And, that drill was going on at 830 in the
morning. Is that not obvious, sir?
AvB: It's quite obvious, yeah. It's quite, it's so strange and the
most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a white
book which is documenting everything. If you are looking for the
timetable for example you have to make a medium between two or three or
five newspapers and radio and TV announcements. So everything is
unclear. On the other hand, the American government is running as the
call it a world war against possibly sixty nations without really
showing the background of 9/11. It's- for me, it's impossible.
AJ: Now by that they admit that nine of the nineteen hijackers, the BBC
says seven but it's nine, are still alive. Bin Laden has not been
convicted, bin Laden is known CIA, you've got [George H. W.] Bush
meeting with the head bin Laden that morning in DC at the Ritz Carleton,
you've got the General of Pakistan, the head of their intelligence,
meeting with the House and Senate chairs of the intelligence committee
at 8:30 that morning, his second trip in his life to the United
States. You've got the FBI paying for the houses, the cars, the
credit cards of the supposed hijackers. I mean, sir, you start-
you've got public officials, Mayor Willie Brown, Joint Chiefs of Staff
told not to fly to New York that day. That's all admitted; what do
you say to that?
AvB: Well, it's all admitted. So for me, since the official version-
it's not credible at all, it's totally incredible. The second
solution for me is a covert operation. And this is a way to
influence, to brainwash the American people into long, long, ongoing
conflict with the Muslim world and all that you get to, for example the
oil companies, the last oil reserves which we need for the next decades
before the oil age is going out. And probably behind this is a
geopolitical thinking that finally China has to be taken out. China
is too big and you have to be able to- this is put down in the New
American Century, which has been written by a lot of people who are now
in government like Cheney, like Rumsfeld and others.
AJ: And now, sir, we've got to break. We're going to get into the
Project for a New American Century and Operation Northwoods. Were you
aware of a US government plan to carry out 9 11 style attacks?
AvB: You mean, Northwoods?
AJ: Yes, sir.
AvB: Yeah sure I know.
AJ: Is that not a key piece of evidence?
AvB: Well, this is a key piece, a key piece of evidence of the thinking
of probably the military in dialogue with politics. Probably, I think
Kennedy decided not to do it but I think it was, it was all of the-
AJ: Tell you what, stay there. We've got to break; we'll be right
back folks. (Fade to music)
(Commercial Break)
AJ: All right my friends, I'm Alex Jones your host. For the rest of
the hour we are honored to have Andreas von Bulow, former Defense
Secretary and former head of technology, Department of Technology in
Germany. And he's just gotten out of government a few years ago and
he's just written a best selling book '9 11 and the CIA' and we have
info on that at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. We will also be
posting this interview on the Website in the next few days as well.
There are so many facets to this- Mr. von Bulow, continuing with you
waking up to what happened on 9 11 and researching it, what are some of
the other key points that clearly show that it is impossible that these
nineteen people did this; we know that is a fraud. It is a conspiracy
theory to say that they did it alone. From your intensive research and
your understanding of high-level government activities, what do you
think really happened on 9 11?
AvB: Well, nobody can prove what happened 9 11 directly because it has
been a covert operation and you don't find proof; you will find only
indications. And one of the indications- the indication that
everything is right with these nineteen people and Usama bin Laden is
that the government is free to show all the prove that is on the table
that is on the street that lays on the ground of the World Trade Center
and so on and so on. If you have a covert operation the probability
is always that the leftover pieces of proof are taken away immediately
and a lot of secrecy, a band of secrecy, has taken over everything.
And, this has happened with 9 11.
AJ: And that also happened- where you aware the New York Times and
Chicago Tribune reported this in '93, the FBI cooked the bomb and
trained the driver[s] and had an Egyptian security agent doing it for
them, had two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the truck and
park it, let the bombing go forward. At Oklahoma City, the same
company that destroyed the remnants of the World Trade Center, blew up
the remnants of Oklahoma City [and] had that buried under machine gun
guard at a private landfill to this day. And they hauled the rubble
away from the W T C to China! They wouldn't let you take
photographs. Yes, exactly.
AvB: Yeah, then at the beginning the engineers weren't allowed to go up
to the steel truss [debris] and had a lot of problems- there was very
scarce money. And you know, to clear up the story with Bill Clinton
and Monica Lewinsky, the Republican majority gave out sixty million
dollars, I think it's seventy now, and they started out with 600 000
dollars to try to figure out what happened on 9 11. And, they were
taken away from doing research and so on and so on and they are
upset. And, Fire Engineer Magazine said it was totally unbelievable
what happened with this examination of 9 11.
AJ: Well, they say it was a criminal cover up and now, sir, we've turned
into a police state. They can secretly arrest citizens, secretly
execute us. They are building admitted prison camps all over the
country, this is in our news. We're turning into something like the
Soviet Union here.
AvB: Well, I can't comment on this but what's going on in Guantanamo is
like that. I think the problem is that if you put people, who ever
you like in Guantanamo in Cuba, you take them away for one or two years
without letting a lawyer to them, without showing them what you are
reprising to them, without having contact from their family- they tell
in all court processes what the FBI is wanting from them-
AJ: Well, sir-
AvB: And so you get fake evidence from these kinds of people, if you
behave like that.
AJ: And sir, sir. Our mainstream news says that torture is good and
they say they are torturing people, that's the Washington Post. Is
that a concern that our government now admits it's torturing?
AvB: Well, I'm informed- I don't know whether they are torturing,
keeping them is a kind of a torture, but I am told there is an agreement
with a lot of states to put these people to Egypt and other states where
torture is accepted and is done and you get the final outcome of this
torture and you can produce this in front of German courts and American
courts and try to bring about final judgment.
AJ: Well that's it. We'll be back; long segment coming up and we'll
get more into your book. We're honored to have you, Andreas von
Bulow. Stay with us. (Fade)
(Commercial Break)
AJ: All right folks. We're talking with Andreas von Bulow and to make
this clear, up until about two years ago he was the head minister over
the Department of Technology and before that he was the head of his
party's group on defense. Now, we're going to take calls coming up
here in just a few minutes, your chance to talk to Andreas von Bulow and
the toll free number to join us on air is 1 800 259 9231. And if you
read German, speak German, you can go online just type into a search
engine or go to the Website and link though and buy a copy of '9 11 and
the CIA.' Now, if you want my videos, 9 11 Road to Tyranny, Masters
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Globalists can use our military as their arm to attack sixty-three
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Now, going back to Andreas von Bulow, sir, we were talking during the
break and I said what are some of the other key points that you would
like to go over. You mentioned the CIA and insider trading and the
Anthrax attacks. Please discuss it.
AvB: Well, the insider trading, everybody knows that there [was] news
about insider trading. I think altogether fifteen billion dollars.
And, there was speculation about going down, of United Airlines and
American Airlines; both airlines which were attacked by 9 11 and other
things. So, normally you could find out because I think the American-
the CIA together with the financial department, the Treasury, they
developed this – watching the markets to find out speculation about
going on terrorist attacks. So, they could immediately find out if
there were something going on- and they could find out. And, in this
case, they- 9 11- the NSA people which are the guys watching via
satellites the whole of the transactions going on, on Earth, they said,
they told the people to destroy the tapes. They had tapes about this
interior trading and they said they had to destroy them so they are not
any longer proof.
AJ: Now again, interior trading that's a good term for it, insider
trading. So again, insider trading or interior trading going on here
and fifteen billion dollars, I think that's a low estimate. It came
out the first week, Germany reported on it, France reported on it, the
US, 'we're going to catch them!' Record put options against United
and American; not against other airlines but specifically against these
and it leads back to the CIA and suddenly they destroy the evidence.
Again, again another smoking gun. Then, you get into anthrax attacks;
Bush on Cipro, the most weaponized anthrax ever seen. Tell us about
that.
AvB: Well, there the question just is who has the responsibility for
this! You know, it overlaid the whole public debate of what was the
background and reason for 9 11 for weeks because these attacks were
going on for weeks and weeks and weeks. And, finally nothing came
out. We have no report on who was responsible, who did it and this
again is amazing. I think it belongs probably to the cover up of the
psychological cover-up of the whole scenery. And then, the
vice-President and the President asking Congress not to go into too much
detail about the background of 9 11. What does this mean? And
until now it's what the President knew before 9 11 is a total secret.
I think there is no secret service around the world which gave no hints
to the American secret service community, the CIA, the DIA and so on and
so on. They did nothing out of it. The most disturbing thing is
that these guys that knew about something in coming up 9 11, were cutout
before. I mean the local level of the FBI offices, they knew quite a
lot and they tried to force the central organization to go into the
details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools and so on. And,
the guy who decided on top, I think the second man who was in the FBI he
[said] 'no we don't do this' and he got promoted after 9 11.
AJ: By the way, the US embassies that allowed supposed Al- Qaeda back in
got record cash bonuses. The FBI agents who ordered other FBI agents
not to stop Al-Qaeda, they go bonuses. Bush signed W199I months
before 9 11 ordering FBI not to stop Al-Qaeda. They threatened to
arrest FBI Robert Wright if he tells us what he knows. I've
interviewed his lawyer David Schippers who knew about the attacks
beforehand. He went to Bush; Bush wouldn't talk to him, Ashcroft
wouldn't talk to him. And you said something very astute, sir, you
talked about the anthrax being a psychological cover-up of the
scenery. That is, all these questions coming out in the early days
about 9 11 got blacked out by the anthrax attacks and that's absolutely
why that happened. We've tracked that back to Fort Detrick,
Maryland. And they said it wasn't weaponized anthrax, it turned out
it was the most weaponized ever seen.
AvB: Yeah, that's absolutely correct and the wars which were reasoned to
be fights against terrorism, the war against Afghanistan to put out the
Taliban it was decided long before and I think in June before 9 11.
The Afghanistan government- no, the Pakistan government and the Indian
government [were] told there would be an intervention in October.
AJ: Also, 44 000 US troops, 18 000 US troops were in Tajikistan and
Uzbekistan, Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk two days
before 9 11.
AvB: That's exact, that's exactly-
AJ: And sir, I want to digress back to torture for a minute because you
have been, you've impressed by, I mean you know so much about this,
you've researched it so well- On the torture issue, General Rick Baucus
quit Guantanamo because he quote 'refused to torture the people there'
and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they fly
them to foreign countries and then the CIA tortures them themselves so
they do admit the torture.
AvB: (Pause) Sure. I can't comment on this [but] it's obvious; all
the court proceedings against for example against Moussaui I think it
was the 20th nominally- it was supposed in each aircraft to have five
hijackers and this one was taken into prison by the FBI. I think the
process was made in Alexandria, Virginia and I think the judge said that
if you don't give the proof [of] these guys who are running Al- Qaeda
and give these people for cross-examination then I can deliver a
judgment. The same is true in Germany; we have people who are related
to Al-Qaeda-and probably Al-Qaeda is an artificial, err, [de]nomination
of-
AJ: CIA fiction.
AvB:- a ruse of elements of Islamic people. In Hamburg, the trials
are failing because the American government is not delivering the proof.
AJ: Absolutely and look, we've had military officers and many others on,
it is clear that Al Qaeda is a CIA creation. A foggy boogie man so
the military-industrial complex can carry out attacks and then pin it on
them and I mean we know when bin Laden blows up a building supposedly,
our government pays his family to rebuild it.
AvB: Yeah.
AJ: I mean there's the payoff right out in the open.
AvB: Yeah, the whole background of- the whole personalities like bin
Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these are all
figures that were handled by the CIA in former times. So probably
they are recycled in the system now as bad guys. Before, they were
the good guys taking away the Russians out of Afghanistan and dealing
with this, getting money for this, getting paid for this now they are
used as bad guys. Usama bin Laden has been, in '95, in the Balkans in
an operation the Americans were with the UKG in Albania. You find
these guys all over; you find these guys in Chechnya for example.
There are also 'former Afghanis' as they are called and they are
[driven] in loaded planes of the CIA for example.
AJ: Absolutely so they provide the crisis so Big Brother could provide
the police state solution. Andreas von Bulow it is clear that if we
do not expose at least who stands to gain from this terror and who was
involved in it, that is the large financial interests that own our
government, they are going to be able to use America as the engine of
quote imperial mobilization and world domination. As Zbigniew
Brzezinski and the PNAC documents said, how important is it to expose
this for the future of free humanity?
AvB: I think it's, for everybody outside of the United States it's
extremely important because it's a question of whether democracy will
survive and whether the state of law is kept up or we'll be driven by
public relations and financial interest. And I think the main thing
for the Americans is who pays for all this. Because, if the oil
companies get more cheap oil and make their money out of it, the
American taxpayer has to pay for the military machine. The oil
companies aren't paying for that. It's not the military-industrial
complex paying for that, it is the American taxpayer so it's extremely
important.
AJ: Absolutely and now we are paying record amounts for fuel for petrol
in this country while they have record supplies and the oil companies
are posting record profits. I want to get into W T C 7 because I want
people to hear these clips. These are from the PBS documentary, and
this will just take a minute sir, and then I want to get your comment on
it, where they describe how Building 7 fell and how they removed it
first because quote 'nobody died in it.' It's the owner, Larry
Silverstein who pulled it, gave the order to demolish it on the
afternoon of September 11th, so, Mark, go ahead and hit that clip for us
please.
PBS Documentary (narrator): World Trade Center 7 had always been
considered the starting point for rebuilding. Located north of the
slurry wall, Building 7 had been cleared faster than the rest of the
site. There had been no bodies to recover. Pelted by debris when
the North Tower collapsed, Seven burned into the late afternoon allowing
occupants to evacuate to safety.
PBS Documentary (Silverstein): I remember getting a call from the, err,
Fire Department commander telling me that they were not sure they would
be able to contain the fire. I thought we had such terrible loss of
life, maybe the smartest thing to do was, was pull it, and they made the
decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.
AJ: We made the decision to pull, and we watched the building
collapse. Now here's Dan Rather, seconds after it collapses and this
is what Dan Rather had to say and then we'll get von Bulow's comment.
(Voice of Dan Rather): What you are seeing are high shots, now here
we're going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself. Now we go
to videotape of the collapse of this building. (Associate- 'it's
amazing') Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time
today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on
television before when a building was destroyed by well-placed dynamite
to knock it down.
AJ: Now, again, the seismographs show multiple explosions, the
firefighters were told to get back. Von Bulow, how important is this
piece of evidence?
AvB: The explosions, well the government has to explain it! They have
to prove their case. They have to this conspiracy theory that these
nineteen Muslims under the direction of Usama bin Laden. It's not my
business; it's only 'if there are explosions, if it's true, can it be
that the heat out of kerosene is able to destroy these huge buildings in
a manner that they are collapsing in a…
AJ: Symmetrical.
AvB: …free-fall in a very short- in a few seconds, that they broke
together. It's nearly impossible. So everything that is on the
table is telling that the government story is not true. And there
must be another story and it must be explosions and the spikes in
geological institutions in five states, 2.2 on the Richter scale, you
have to find out what's the background. And five or seven days later
the temperature on the ground was five hundred degrees, or a little bit
more than 450, if just fires were-
AJ: We've got to break. We'll be right back.
(Commercial Break)
AJ: We're talking with Andreas von Bulow. Former minister at the
highest levels of the German government. Former Technology
Minister. And I know we have a lot of callers but we only have time
to take maybe one or two, Dan in Oklahoma. I just want to commend
Andreas von Bulow for writing this book 9 11 and the CIA and I would
hope a publisher would get a hold of it and translate it and publish it
here because I would definitely carry it. You can find information on
the book for those who read and speak German at Infowars.com and
PrisonPlanet.com. Andreas von Bulow let's take a call, let's talk to
Dan in Oklahoma. Dan, you're on the air go ahead.
Dan: Yes, thanks Alex. Mr. von Bulow my question is following this
disaster of 9 1 1, I understand Germany, France, and Russia and why they
didn't want to get involved because of the money they had invested with
Iraq. With the military-industrial complex like it is, what do you
understand the New World Order to be especially since they said they
could us this event to-
AJ: Yes, who are, who are the forces behind government-sponsored terror?
AvB: Who are the forces behind government? I do not understand this.
AJ: Well we know this global government is forming. We know that
powerful financial interests are engineering terror attacks, who are the
forces behind the military industrial complex?
AvB: Well, it's always interesting. If you look at who owns the
munitions factory in the East-West conflict or the Near-East conflict,
they are always trying to sell their material to both sides. And,
they are always interested in conflict and they would like after the
breakdown of the Soviet Union, the noble thing would be to cut down this
military-industrial complex, which costs the American taxpayer a huge
amount of money. Exactly the same time the Soviet Union breaks down,
this new terror thing comes up. The first terrorist attacks were I
think the World Trade Center one and you find out the leading guy of
this bombing, this time an agricultural bomb, he was going immediately
to FBI and saying 'I'll tell you everything about this' and they agreed
finally twenty-four hours before the attack in 1993, they would change
the powder, the dangerous powder against the [non] dangerous powder and
the FBI didn't come up to do this so-
AJ: Yeah, they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers and that's
another patsy.
AvB:-people were [injured] and six people were dead. In Oklahoma you
had nearly the same thing. You had two attacks. One was perhaps
McViegh and this other guy but there was another attack much more strong
than this agricultural bomb and there is an American general, an Air
Force general who for I think ten years or fifteen years in charge of
this explosive institute and he said never could this agrarian bomb
bring about such damage. There must be something else and they found
that within the building there were demolition charges.
AJ: Absolutely, Dan thanks for the call. I hope we can get you on in
the future again, Andreas von Bulow, you've been so kind. You have
such amazing courage to stand up and tell the truth and we've been
honored to have you on the show from Germany. God bless you.
AvB: Thank you.
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Hi! JBE!
Swamp, that was excellent! Thanks for posting it! I had read some quotes from the German man, but not read the whole interview!
WOW!
It makes me sick to my stomach sometimes when I stop and think about the overall agenda of these neocon tactics as well as the torture. To think that the American people have been fooled, even as far back as Oklahoma City -- I don't know, it just makes me sick!
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washingtonpost.com
Rumsfeld, Tenet to Testify About Sept. 11
By HOPE YEN
The Associated Press
Tuesday, February 17, 2004; 9:04 PM
WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and CIA Director George Tenet will testify publicly next month in a federal commission probe into who should be held accountable for the Sept. 11 attacks.
The two-day hearing in late March, to focus on U.S. counterterrorism policy, will be unprecedented in its review of high-level officials in the administrations of both Presidents Clinton and Bush, Philip Zelikow, executive director of the Sept. 11 commission, said Tuesday in an interview with The Associated Press.
Also scheduled to testify are Secretary of State Colin Powell; his predecessor Madeleine Albright; and Clinton's defense secretary, William Cohen.
"We're going to break new ground as we shift the focus from officials in the field to the highest officials in government and foreign policy both before 9-11 and today," Zelikow said.
In previous hearings, the commission has highlighted government missteps before the 2001 attacks, including miscommunications about al-Qaida operatives dating back to the mid-1990s and hijackers who were allowed to enter the United States repeatedly despite lacking proper visa documentation. Up to now, however, the panel has not assigned blame beyond midlevel officials in federal agencies.
The panel is preparing hold private meetings in the coming weeks with Bush, Vice President Cheney, Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore about what their administrations knew before the attacks.
On Friday, Bush agreed to meet privately with commissioners but said it was unnecessary for him to testify publicly, and he would not. Cheney also has said he would meet with some commissioners, and Clinton and Gore have said they will cooperate in private meetings while not saying whether they would testify publicly.
Al Felzenberg, the commission's spokesman, said the panel was negotiating with the four officials about the times and formats of their meetings and hoped to have them scheduled in a matter of weeks. If held soon, the information they provide might be dealt with in March's hearing.
Relatives of Sept. 11 victims have demanded that the top government leaders testify publicly, under oath. Administration officials said during the weekend that Bush wants to meet privately with a few commissioners, not all 10 members of the bipartisan panel.
The Sept. 11 panel, formally the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, was established by Congress to study the nation's preparedness before the attacks and its response. It also is to recommend ways to guard against similar disasters.
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On the Net:
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Extraordinary Measures
By Michael Isakoff and Mark Hosebball
Newsweek
Wednesday 18 February 2004
A recalcitrant Bush administration forces the 9/11 Commission to poke into Bob Woodward's notebook.
Faced with presidential resistance to turning over highly sensitive intelligence briefs, the commission investigating the September 11 terror attacks tried to learn the details in the documents by obtaining access to White House transcripts of interviews that senior officials gave to a prominent journalist, NEWSWEEK has learned.
The extraordinary access that top Bush administration officials gave Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward more than two years ago for his book, "Bush at War," became a principal issue in the contentious battle between the September 11 panel and the White House over access to the President's Daily Briefs or PDBs—the intelligence briefing report that is given to the president every morning.
Threatened with a subpoena for the documents, the White House relented somewhat last week and agreed to allow the full 10-member commission to hear a summary of key PDBs about the Al Qaeda terrorist threat that were given to Bush and before him, to President Clinton. The summary was prepared by a four-member team that was allowed to read under highly restrictive conditions hundreds of PDBs dating back to 1998.
Still, the last-minute deal, sources tell NEWSWEEK, came only after intense negotiations in which members of the federal panel repeatedly brought up the Woodward interviews as evidence of the administration's hypocritical approach toward secrecy. How, commission officials demanded to know, could the White House deny a federal panel investigating the worst crime in U.S. history access to documents that it had already shared with a journalist?
"Woodward was a point of reference to show the PDBs were not as sacrosanct as they claimed," said one commission official familiar with the negotiations with the White House. "In his book, Woodward claims he saw the PDBs. That was an argument that these were not the 'Holy of Holies.'"
The commission also cited a New York Times op-ed column written by a former national security advisor, Richard V. Allen, in which he described how, during the Reagan administration, PDBs were shared with a White House aide "whose main function was public relations." The column also said another former official—identified by one knowledgeable source as former attorney general Edwin Meese—had stored the documents in the home garage of one of his assistants.
But the unusual access given to Woodward, the veteran reporter of Watergate fame, was clearly the most sensitive case invoked by the commission. The best selling "Bush at War" is sprinkled with a number of precise references to the PDBs. On page 40 of the book, for example, Woodward quotes from the Sept. 12, 2001 PDB that CIA director George Tenet gave Bush linking the terror attacks to Al Qaeda. On page 132, Woodward gives the exact title—"Trying to Anticipate the Next Attack"-of a "highly classified, three-page briefing paper" that was provided to Bush on Sept. 25 as part of that morning's PDB.
Such passages were a major irritant because the White House has consistently refused to turn over any PDBs to outside investigators. White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and his staff have portrayed the documents as the "crown jewels" of executive privilege and argued that sharing them with anybody would jeopardize the ability of all future presidents to receive briefings on highly sensitive intelligence matters in confidence. As a result, the White House would provide any PDBs to the House-Senate Joint Intelligence Committee inquiry that last year investigated law enforcement and intelligence failures relating to the September 11 attacks.
But the September 11 commission thought it saw a way around the White House wall of resistance. Hoping to learn the contents of the PDBs cited by Woodward as well as other sensitive intelligence matters, the commission last year asked the White House to turn over transcripts of hours of taped interviews about the September 11 attacks that senior officials gave Woodward and a number of other journalists. A few of those interviews, such as one that Bush gave to Woodward for his book, were on the record. But many other interviews, including those given by national security advisor Condoleezza Rice and chief of staff Andrew Card, were conducted "on background,'' meaning the officials' identities could not be disclosed.
Although uncomfortable with the request, the White House had no grounds to resist and did in fact turn over the transcripts. But it turned into a less fruitful avenue of inquiry than the commission had at first hoped. A commission source said the transcripts did not in fact show evidence that top White House officials had described the PDBs to Woodward—at least not in the taped interviews that were transcribed by White House secretaries. "The assumption is that he got the (PDBs) from the White House," said one commission official. "There's no proof of that."
But there is little doubt that Woodward got details of documents that are central to the commission's investigation—and more than a little sensitive for the Bush White House. One intelligence document that Woodward described in a May, 2002 Washington Post story , although not in his book, is the Aug. 6, 2001 PDB given to Bush while on vacation at his ranch in Crawford. This is the day that intelligence officials briefed Bush on the prospect of an upcoming Al Qaeda attack and the prospect that terrorists might seek to hijack commercial airliners—a warning that critics have long charged should have triggered a more vigorous response from the White House. The title of the PDB, according to Woodward's story, was more prophetic than the White House has ever acknowledged: "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
Meanwhile, Woodward, who is notoriously reluctant to comment on anything to do with his reporting, is putting the finishing touches on his latest book due out this spring—about the war on Iraq.
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Even though Bush had stated that he would cooperate with the 9/11 Commission – apparently he’s not, and in ways I didn’t even know of before. Should we be surprised?
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpcoc193677317feb19,0,1094494.column
Bush Plays Bait-and-Switch With 9/11 Panel
Feb 19, 2004
Let us finally put to rest a widely circulated and grossly inaccurate story that's been making the rounds: Rumors of President George W. Bush's cooperation with the panel probing the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, are unsubstantiated.
Unlike those Internet rumors that pop to electronic life and die quickly without fingerprints, this one is traceable directly to the con artist-in-chief. The world thinks Bush is cooperating with the 9/11 commission because he says he is.
"We have given extraordinary cooperation" the president told NBC's Tim Russert in his Sunday Meet the Press chat. "I want the truth to be known."
The truth?
"I've experienced two political bait-and-switches since I've been on the commission," said Bob Kerrey, the former Nebraska senator and current president of the New School University in New York. And that's only about a month. "The bait-and-switch in politics is a technique that is intentionally designed to lead the public (to believe) that you're going to do something that you're not going to do."
The latest subterfuge involves the president's agreement to be interviewed by the 9/11 commission, as its chairmen, former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean and former Indiana Congressman Lee Hamilton, requested. The White House announced with some fanfare that well, certainly, the president would oblige. Then the backtrack began.
Administration officials said any interview would be done in private. What's more, the president would not submit to questions from the full bipartisan panel, only from selected commissioners. Which ones? Only his damage-controllers know for sure.
Erin Healy, a White House spokeswoman, refused to answer "yes" or "no" when asked to state whether the president wants to limit the commissioners who would be allowed to question him. "Those details are being worked out," she said.
Ah, the details.
Negotiated "details" have constricted the commission's access to the president's daily brief - a digest of intelligence for the commander-in-chief. Previous probes of 9/11 already have revealed that, in the months before the terrorists struck, the intelligence community screamed loudly about a planned attack meant to inflict mass casualties. Bush bragged in his NBC interview about giving the commission access to these briefings.
In fact, the full commission hasn't seen them.
The White House negotiated a convoluted agreement under which a handful of panel representatives were allowed to see the briefs and take notes. Then it tried to block these few from sharing their notes with other panelists. Finally - after the commission contemplated a subpoena of its own members' notes - a 17-page summary of the briefings, edited by the White House, went to all commissioners.
The summary, according to two commission sources, raises more questions for Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser. Still more could be put to former Federal Aviation Administration chief Jane Garvey and to Sandy Berger, national security adviser to former President Bill Clinton.
"When somebody stands up and says 'well, there's nothing in those PDBs,' that's not true," Kerrey said. Well, that's just about what Rice said publicly when the existence of a key briefing from Aug. 6, 2001, came to light.
Never mind. The public won't hear from Rice because her interview with the commission was private. And the panel is running out of time to complete work before its May deadline.
In one of those heralded announcements of cooperation, the White House has said it's willing to give the panel two months more. Curiously, neither the House nor the Senate - both controlled by the president's party and heretofore happy to oblige Bush - has rushed to take the action needed to extend the panel's life.
Does the president understand the dimension of failure that 9/11 represents? It shook his presidency and changed its course. He has led the nation to two wars to avenge the attacks and, he says, prevent another.
Still he obstructs the full and fair accounting that the people are due. This must be counted as another failure of 9/11. It is an indignity to history that is, somehow, imposed without shame.
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Supreme Court Rejects Appeal in Secret Sept. 11 Case
Mon Feb 23,12:18 PM ET Add U.S. National - Reuters to My Yahoo!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1895&e=5&u=/nm/20040223/us_nm/court_security_secrecy_dc
By James Vicini
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) on Monday allowed the Bush administration to keep secret all documents in the case of a Middle Eastern man detained for immigration violations after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
In keeping with its record of declining to hear cases challenging the government's secrecy rules in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks, the court rejected without comment the appeal of a man, identified only by the initials "M.K.B."
The man's lawyers contended the secrecy was unconstitutional. They said even the docket, or summary, of the proceedings had been sealed by a federal judge and a U.S. appeals court that considered his challenge to the detention.
The man has been identified by a Miami newspaper as Mohamed Kamel Bellahouel, an Algerian-born resident of south Florida. He was one of the more than 750 foreigners, mostly Middle Eastern men, detained in the United States for immigration violations in the government's probe of the Sept. 11 hijacked airline attacks.
As part of what it calls its war on terror, the administration of President Bush (news - web sites) has clamped a secrecy lid on information related to its investigation of the attacks.
Last month the Supreme Court allowed the administration to keep secret the names and other basic details about hundreds of foreigners detained after the attacks. Last year, the court rejected a challenge to secret immigration hearings of people detained after the attacks.
In Bellahouel's case, the names of the parties and the lawyers, the case number, all court filings, oral arguments and every court ruling have been kept secret.
His attorneys from the federal public defender's office in Miami said the lower courts violated First Amendment law governing public access to court filings and proceedings.
They said the lower courts failed to justify keeping everything in the case sealed and could have considered simply blacking out any parts of the filings where secrecy would be legally permissible.
Much of the information about the case was published by The Miami Business Review after the clerk's office for the Atlanta-based appeals court briefly put the case on a public docket by mistake.
The Business Review, which identified Bellahouel, said he worked as a waiter at a restaurant that two of the Sept. 11 hijackers visited.
His wife is a U.S. citizen. After being taken into custody in October 2001, Bellahouel was released on a $10,000 immigration bond in March 2002.
The first publicly available document in the case was the Supreme Court appeal.
"The facts of (his) case would make a significant contribution to the national debate about the detention and treatment of Middle Eastern persons," his lawyers, Kathleen Williams and Paul Rashkind, wrote.
"The world has changed since 9/11. But the common law and First Amendment rights to discuss and debate those changing events remain alive," they said.
Seeking to intervene in support of the appeal were a number of news media companies and groups, including the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, and organizations that seek to protect the rights of immigrants.
The U.S. Justice Department (news - web sites)'s brief by Solicitor General Theodore Olson was filed at the Supreme Court, also under a seal of secrecy. (additional reporting by Deborah Charles)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1150285,00.html
'Mr Ferrer can't be with us tonight'
Artists from all over the world are being refused entry to the US on security grounds. James Verini reports
Wednesday February 18, 2004
The Guardian
Read article at link!
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Well this sure doesn't look good. In this article from 2/25/04, Speaker of the House Hastert has said he WILL NOT bring up the legislation to extend the 911 Commission's report deadline date another 60 days (from May 26 to July 26)!
http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=4437913
In response to the above, the 9/11 Citizens Watch group is looking for help in convincing Congress to pass legislation to grant the 60 day extension.
Here is their home page: http://www.911citizenswatch.org/index.php
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=80&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Three weeks ago, thanks to public pressure from 9/11 families and many other Americans who support the quest for the truth, the White House reversed course and issued a public statement agreeing to a two-month extension to the 9/11 Commission’s deadline for issuing its final report.
Unfortunately, this statement appears to be a publicity stunt, because in the past three weeks there has been no evidence that the White House has done anything to make this promise a reality. The White House’s allies in Congress, including Speaker of the House J. Dennis Hastert, continue to oppose any extension. If an extension of at least two months isn’t enacted by Congress, the Commission will not be able to finish its work. The Commission will have to cancel important hearings and interviews and will not have time to analyze critical documents. The result will be an incomplete report that is likely to leave answerable questions unanswered and fail to provide a full list of recommendations for preventing future attacks.
We need your help to convince Congress to pass legislation giving the Commission an extension.
You can do two things:
1) Send a fax to Scott Palmer, Rep. Hastert’s Chief of Staff, at fax number 202-225-0697, and tell him you want Rep. Hastert to support an extension of the Commission’s deadline. If you don’t have access to a fax machine, you can call Mr. Palmer at 202-225-0600 or 202-225-2976.
2) Contact your own representative and senators urging them to support the bills that would grant the Commission an extension: H.R. 3771 in the House and S. 2040 in the Senate.
You can contact your representative by going to the Web site http://www.house.gov/
You can e-mail your senators by going to http://www.senate.gov choosing your state from the pull down menu, and clicking on the Web forms of the two senators.
This matter requires urgent attention, because the Commission must know soon whether it will receive an extension if it is to plan effectively for its last few months of work.
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Woo hoo! Hastert has withdrawn his opposition to granting the 60 day extension of time to the commission.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/news/news-security-commission.html
Highlights:
"I want your commission to do a thorough job, but I also believe that we must have your recommendations soon in order to give the Congress adequate time to act on them," he said.
Hastert's reversal came on the same day the Senate approved legislation granting a two-month extension, and after two senators threatened to delay a highway funding bill if the House did not consider giving more time to the commission.
Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, said commission leaders were scheduled to meet with Hastert on Tuesday to iron out details of the agreement. McCain had threatened to block the transportation measure -- which would have forced an embarrassing shutdown of federal highway programs on Monday.
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Blind alley:
If the Warren commission had released their report just before the 1968 election;
the fact that they had decided
before any evidence was presented
to blame Oswald as a "lone assassin" would make no difference.
No matter what date the 911 commission releases their "final report'
that they began with the assumption that al Queda and bin laden were responsible makes any report a fraud.
any honest investigation would begin with the facts and construct a premise and theories.
this commission began with the premis that Binladin and al queda were responsible and worked only to verify the official bush lies.
thier conclusions are only 'more right-wing propaganda'.
No more credible than Nazi official conclusions about the Reichstag fire.
the people who committed a crime should never be trusted to investigate that crime!
still unable to figure out my premise?
the people who committed a crime should never be trusted to investigate that crime!
The Bush administration should never be trusted to investigate anything!
It's like asking Al Capone to investigate a mob hit in 1930's Chicago .
Get my drift?
still unsure?
read it again:
The Bush administration should never be trusted to investigate anything!
It's like asking Al Capone to investigate a mob hit in 1930's Chicago .
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It’s now official. The 9/11 Commission was granted the 2 month extension of time they requested. The Panel has scheduled a 2-day (don’t know which days) hearing next week in order to interview the following:
Donald Rumsfeld, Defense Secretary and Colin Powell, Secretary of State
William Cohen, Clinton Defense Secretary
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State
George Tenet, CIA Director
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser
Richard Clarke, former head of the National Security Council
You’ll notice that Dumbya and Ms. Rice are not on the list!
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uscomm173710706mar17,0,4462329.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines
Witness list disclosed
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
March 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - The federal panel reviewing the Sept. 11 attacks disclosed the witness list yesterday for its two-day hearing on counterterrorism next week, with scheduled testimony from top officials from the Bush and Clinton administrations.
The list omits one invited official: National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. She has repeatedly declined on the advice of the White House, citing separation of power concerns involving its staff testifying before a legislative body.
Commission officials, who haven't ruled out a subpoena, are still hoping she'll reconsider. "We would certainly welcome her to appear if the White House changes its thinking," spokesman Al Felzenberg said.
Also yesterday, President George W. Bush signed a bill giving the commission more time. It was to wrap up May 27, but members asked for a two-month extension, citing repeated delays because of disputes with the administration over access to witnesses and documents.
The bipartisan panel released the schedule for its eighth hearing on March 23-24. Its Republican chairman, former New Jersey Gov. Thomas H. Kean, said the hearing was critical in determining whether the attacks could have been prevented.
"A central aspect of our commission's mission is counterterrorism policy: what options senior officials considered before September 11, 2001, and what choices they made," Kean said. "This is clearly one of the most important hearings the commission will hold."
Among those on the witness list are: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell; their counterparts in the Clinton administration, William Cohen and Madeleine Albright; CIA Director George Tenet; Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger; and Richard Clarke, former head of the National Security Council.
The panel plans to release four preliminary reports on its investigations, with special emphasis on the period from the August 1998 embassy bombings in Africa to the Sept. 11 attacks.
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Twelve Manhattan residents field a suit last week against the EPA! Among other things, the suit charges that the EPA returned the area to normalcy because of political pressure; that the EPA did not monitor the hazardous cleaning progress; that Christie Whitman displayed "a shockingly deliberate indifference to human health”, etc. With all these 9/11 lawsuits flying, I’ll bet the Administration’s head is spinning. One would hope anyway! 
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/11/nyregion/11epa.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1079586149-w/XBZSRNT1zWkbSvvoYklw
Group Is Suing Federal Agency Over Post-9/11 Health Hazards
By ANTHONY DePALMA
Published: March 11, 2004
The health of tens of thousands of people who live and work in Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn has been endangered by the way federal officials mishandled the environmental hazards caused by the collapse of the World Trade Center, according to a lawsuit filed yesterday in United States District Court in Manhattan.
Twelve Manhattan residents and workers sued the Environmental Protection Agency for failing to follow its own procedures to ensure the area was safe before allowing people to return.
They also accused the agency's former administrator, Christie Whitman, of displaying "a shockingly deliberate indifference to human health" when she issued reassuring statements about air quality downtown that proved to be misleading.
"As a result," according to the lawsuit, a large group of New Yorkers exposed "to hazardous substances for over two years is left with the expense of full and proper cleanup of their residences and workplaces, and is faced with potentially serious long-term health effects."
In a statement, an E.P.A. regional administrator, Jane M. Kenny, said she had not seen the lawsuit and would not comment on it.
Since the dense cloud of dust and debris billowed through Lower Manhattan on Sept. 11, 2001, contradictory statements about safety and risk have tarnished the reputation of the federal agency. Some residents fear they were deliberately misled by government officials more eager to see normalcy return to the area than to safeguard New Yorkers.
Just last week, federal officials conceded their hope that the formation of a panel of independent experts to oversee the cleanup would help restore lost confidence.
The lawsuit was filed on behalf of 12 residents - workers, students and business owners - but it seeks to represent the entire class of people exposed to the hazardous dust. One of the 12, Robert Gulack of Fair Lawn, N.J., a senior lawyer with the Securities and Exchange Commission, said he developed severe respiratory problems because improperly cleaned stairways and elevators contaminated his office.
The lawsuit claims the E.P.A. had the regulatory responsibility for cleaning up indoor spaces. Initially, it delegated the task to the city, and then failed to supervise the city's inadequate response, the suit says.
A year after the attack, the federal agency agreed to take over the indoor cleanup. It implemented a voluntary program for residences in a limited area around ground zero. But the area to be cleaned excluded many apartments north of Canal Street and in Brooklyn. Offices were also excluded.
The lawsuit estimates that about 17,000 homes and many workplaces should have been tested for contamination and cleaned. It seeks the thorough testing of affected apartments and offices in Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn, the creation of a medical fund to pay for health testing of people exposed to the trade center dust, and the reimbursement of people who have paid to have their apartments and businesses cleaned.
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