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THETA:
"Again TPTB create another tradegy."
Yes.
Its called the HEGALIAN DIALECTIC.
PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION.
Create the "PROBLEM":--- Muslim "terrorists" attack the US (Allegedly).But was actually a CIA operation.
REACTION:--- US populace: "oh the horror!!, please take our rights away and protect us!!!!"
Offer the "SOLUTION":--- Invasion of Afganistan and Iraq (to fight terrorism) when actually it's to secure dominance and resources in the Middle East.
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:08 am
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Mech
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:13 am
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Further consolidation of power and wealth in the hands of a tiny globalist elite.
It's not rocket science "Professor" (sic)
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:27 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Molliani:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the Arabs vs the Christians. I don't know of any Arabs blaming Christians for the "real live horror show" not do I know any Christians at war with the Arabs.
Born-Again Christians
George W Bush
Dick Cheney
John Ashcroft
Donny Rumpsmell
Condi Rice
Colin Powell
William Rehnquist
Clarence Thomas
Anton Scalia
George HW Bush
VS
Iraq - Arabs - Muslims - Lots of Oil
Afghanistan - Arabs - Muslims - Caspian Sea - Lots of Oil
The Crusades VS The Arabs - Same mind set, different time.
Terrorists - Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, George W Bush, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Tony Blair, CIA, All Fundamentalists of any religion, environmentally destructive corporations, Joseph Biden, Joseph Liverman, George HW Bush, Ariel Sharon, Yassar Arafat
At the bottom, Zionists fueling the Flames of Hatred.
 
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Molliani
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:48 am
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[QUOTE]
Originally posted by swamp gas:
Born-Again Christians
George W Bush
Dick Cheney
John Ashcroft
Donny Rumpsmell
Condi Rice
Colin Powell
William Rehnquist
Clarence Thomas
Anton Scalia
George HW Bush
Don't be deceived Swamp.
St. Matthew 8:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
St. Matthew 8:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
St. Matthew 8:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
St. Matthew 8:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
St. Matthew 8:19
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
St. Matthew 8:20
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:25 am
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See,
Its EASIER to ape all the so-called "facts" from mainstream media than it is to put 2&2 together and THINK FOR YOURSELF.
Its much easier to regurgitate everything out of hannity and CLONES and Bill O'reillys mouth...than it is for you to use your own reasoning.
Those buildings came down in PERFECT demolition style, with purpose and sadistic INTENT.
DESPITE what the NWO suck-boys believe.
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 2:23 pm
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Molliani,
I am not deceived. Those people mentioned are using the Peace Jesus' name as a war Jesus. Welcome to Biazarro World, where left is right, and Freedom is Slavery.
That Matthew Dude was Right On, BTW.
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:37 pm
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Eyewitness Reports Persist Of
Bombs At WTC Collapse
By Christopher Bollyn
Exclusive to American Free Press
12-2-1
Despite reports from numerous eyewitnesses and experts, including news reporters on the scene, who heard or saw explosions immediately before the collapse of the World Trade Center, there has been virtual silence in the mainstream media.
Television viewers watching the horrific events of Sept. 11 saw evidence of explosions before the towers collapsed. Televised images show what appears to be a huge explosion occurring near ground level, in the vicinity of the 47-story Salomon Brothers Building, known as WTC 7, prior to the collapse of the first tower.
Van Romero, an explosives expert and former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at New Mexico Tech, said on Sept. 11, "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse."
The collapse of the structures resembled the controlled implosions used to demolish old structures and was "too methodical to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures," Romero told The Albuquerque Journal hours after the attack.
Implosions are violent collapses inwards, which are used to demolish buildings in areas of high density, to prevent damage to surrounding buildings. Precision-timed explosives are placed on strategic load-bearing columns and beams to cause the controlled collapse.
Demolition experts say that towers are the most difficult buildings to bring down in a controlled manner. A tower tends to fall like a tree, unless the direction of its fall is controlled by directional charges. The WTC towers "smokestacked" neatly, falling within the boundaries of their foundations.
Skeptics say this could not have happened coincidentally and it must have been caused by strategically placed and precisely timed internal charges. Videotape images may reveal these internal charges precipitating the controlled demolition of the towers and WTC 7.
Romero is vice president of research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures, and often assists in forensic investigations into terrorist attacks, often by setting off similar explosions and studying the effects.
After being hit by the aircraft, the twin towers appeared to be stable. Then without warning, at 9:58 a.m. the south tower imploded vertically downwards, 53 minutes after being hit. At 10:28, 88 minutes after being struck, the north tower collapsed.
"It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that," Romero said. If explosions did cause the towers to collapse, "It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points," he said.
"One of the things terrorist events are noted for is a diversionary attack and secondary device," Romero said. Attackers detonate an initial, diversionary explosion, in this case the collision of the planes into the towers, which brings emergency personnel to the scene, then detonate a second explosion.
Ten days after the attack, following criticism of his initial remarks, Romero did an about-face in his analysis of the collapse, "Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail," he told the Journal on Sept. 21.
The twin towers were struck by Boeing 767's carrying approximately 23,000 gallons of fuel.
However, there is other information that lends credence to Romero's controversial scenario. One eyewitness whose office is near the World Trade Center told AFP that he was standing among a crowd of people on Church Street, about two-and-a-half blocks from the South tower, when he saw "a number of brief light sources being emitted from inside the building between floors 10 and 15." He saw about six of these brief flashes, accompanied by "a crackling sound" before the tower collapsed. Each tower had six central support columns.
One of the first firefighters in the stricken second tower, Louie Cacchioli, 51, told People Weekly on Sept. 24: "I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building."
Kim White, 32, an employee on the 80th floor, also reported hearing an explosion. "All of a sudden the building shook, then it started to sway. We didn't know what was going on," she told People. "We got all our people on the floor into the stairwell . . . at that time we all thought it was a fire . . .We got down as far as the 74th floor . . . then there was another explosion."
The accepted theory is that as the fires raged in the towers, the steel cores in each building were heated to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, causing the support beams to buckle.
A lead engineer who designed the World Trade Center Towers expressed shock that the towers collapsed after being hit by passenger jets.
"I designed it for a 707 to hit it," Lee Robertson, the project's structural engineer said. The Boeing 707 has a fuel capacity of more than 23,000 gallons, comparable to the 767's 23,980-gallon fuel capacity.
Another architect of the WTC, Aaron Swirski, lives in Israel and spoke to Jerusalem Post Radio after the attack: "It was designed around that eventuality to survive this kind of attack," he said.
Hyman Brown, a University of Colorado civil engineering professor and the World Trade Center's construction manager, watched in confusion as the towers came down. "It was over-designed to withstand almost anything including hurricanes, high winds, bombings and an airplane hitting it," he said.
Brown told AFP that although the buildings were designed to withstand "a 150-year storm" and the im pact of a Boeing 707, he said the jet fuel burning at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit weakened the steel. Brown ex plained that the south tower collapsed first as it was struck lower with more weight above the impact area.
Brown told AFP that he "did not buy" the theory that the implosion was caused by the fires sucking the air out of the lower floors, which has been speculated.
The contractor who is reported to have been the first on the WTC collapse scene to cart away the rubble that remains is a company that specializes in the scientific demolition of large buildings, Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Baltimore, headed by Mark Loizeaux.
CDI is the same contractor that demolished and hauled away the shell of the bombed Oklahoma City Murrah building, actions that prevented independent investigators from pursuing evidence on leads suggesting that there were bombs set off inside the building.
In February 2000, a federal grand jury indicted Mark Loizeaux, Douglas Loizeaux and Controlled Demolition, Inc. on charges of falsely reporting campaign contributions by asking family members and CDI employees to donate to the campaign of Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.).
The Baltimore Sun reported that the illegal contributions allegedly occurred between 1996 and 1998. The Loizeaux brothers and CDI were acquitted in Sept ember 2000. Cleaning up the estimated 1.2 million tons of rubble will reportedly cost $7 billion and take up to a year.
Removing the debris has also been controversial. The police said that some scrap metal has been diverted to mob-controlled businesses rather than the dump where investigators are examining rubble for clues and human remains.
The second plane nearly missed the South Tower, cutting through a corner. Most of its fuel burned in an outside explosion. However, this building collapsed first, long before the North Tower, into which a similar plane entered completely.
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Two unexplained "spikes" in the seismic record from September 11 indicate huge bursts of energy shook the ground beneath the World Trade Center's twin towers — just as the buildings began to collapse.
American Free Press has learned of pools of "molten steel" found at the base of the collapsed twin towers weeks after the collapse. Although the energy source for these incredibly hot areas has yet to be explained, New York seismometers recorded huge bursts of energy, which caused unexplained seismic "spikes" at the beginning of each collapse. These spikes suggest that massive underground explosions may have literally knocked the towers off their foundations causing them to collapse.
"MOLTEN STEEL"
In the basements of the collapsed towers, where the 47 central support columns connected with the bedrock, hot spots of "literally molten steel" were discovered more than a month after the collapse. Such persistent and intense residual heat, 70 feet below the surface, could explain how these crucial structural supports failed.
Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, New York, told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center. Tully was contracted on September 11 to remove the debris from the site.
Tully called Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Maryland, for consultation about removing the debris. CDI calls itself "the innovator and global leader in the controlled demolition and implosion of structures."
Loizeaux, who cleaned up the bombed Federal Building in Oklahoma City, arrived on the WTC site two days later and wrote the clean-up plan for the entire operation.
AFP asked Loizeaux about the report of molten steel on the site. "Yes," he said, "hot spots of molten steel in the basements." These incredibly hot areas were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels," Loizeaux said. The molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed," Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon.
Construction steel has an extremely high melting point of about 2,800° Fahrenheit (1535° Celsius). Asked what could have caused such extreme heat, Tully said, "Think of the jet fuel."
Loizeaux told AFP that the steel-melting fires were fueled by "paper, carpet and other combustibles packed down the elevator shafts by the tower floors as they 'pancaked' into the basement."
Kerosene-based jet fuel, paper, or the other combustibles normally found in the towers, however, cannot generate the heat required to melt steel, especially in an oxygen-poor environment like a deep basement.
Eric Hufschmid, author of a book about the WTC collapse, Time for Painful Questions, told AFP that due to the lack of oxygen, paper and other combustibles packed down at the bottom of elevator shafts would probably be "a smoky smoldering pile."
Experts disagree that jet-fuel or paper could generate such heat. This is impossible, they say, because the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons like jet-fuel, burning in air is 1520° F (825° C). Because the WTC fires were fuel rich (as evidenced by the thick black smoke) it is argued that they did not reach this upper limit of 825° C.
The hottest spots at the surface of the rubble, where abundant oxygen was available, were much cooler than the molten steel found in the basements. Five days after the collapse, on September 16, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) used an Airborne Visible/Infrared Imaging Spectrometer (AVIRIS) to locate and measure the site's hot spots. Dozens of hot spots were mapped, the hottest being in the east corner of the South Tower where a temperature of 1377° F (747° C) was recorded. This is, however, less than half as hot at the molten steel in the basement.
The foundations of the twin towers were 70 feet deep. At that level, 47 huge box columns, connected to the bedrock, supported the entire gravity load of the structures. The steel walls of these lower box columns were 4 inches thick.
CENTRAL COLUMNS SEVERED
Videos of the North Tower collapse show its communication mast falling first, indicating that the central support columns must have failed at the very beginning of the collapse. Loizeaux told AFP, "Everything went simultaneously."
"At 10:29 the entire top section of the North Tower had been severed from the base and began falling down," Hufschmid writes. "If the first event was the falling of a floor, how did that progress to the severing of hundreds of columns?"
Asked if the vertical support columns gave way before the connections between the floors and the columns, Ron Hamburger, a structural engineer with the FEMA assessment team said, "That's the $64,000 question."
Loizeaux said, "If I were to bring the towers down, I would put explosives in the basement to get the weight of the building to help collapse the structure."
SEISMIC "SPIKES"
Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York, 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded strange seismic activity on September 11 that has still not been explained.
While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31.
The Palisades seismic record shows that — as the collapses began — a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. These unexplained "spikes" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses.
A "sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph.
The two unexplained spikes are more than twenty times the amplitude of the other seismic waves associated with the collapses and occurred in the East-West seismic recording as the buildings began to fall.
Lerner-Lam told AFP that a 10-fold increase in wave amplitude indicates a 100-fold increase in energy released. These "short-period surface waves," reflect "the interaction between the ground and the building foundation," according to a report from Columbia Earth Institute.
"The seismic effects of the collapses are comparable to the explosions at a gasoline tank farm near Newark on January 7, 1983," the Palisades Seismology Group reported on Sept. 14, 2001.
One of the seismologists, Won-Young Kim, told AFP that the Palisades seismographs register daily underground explosions from a quarry 20 miles away. These blasts are caused by 80,000 lbs. of ammonium nitrate and cause local earthquakes between Magnitude 1 and 2. Kim said the 1993 truck-bomb at the WTC did not register on the seismographs because it was "not coupled" to the ground.
Experts cannot explain why the seismic waves peaked before the towers hit the ground. Asked about these spikes seismologist Arthur Lerner-Lam, director of Columbia University's Center for Hazards and Risk Research told AFP, "This is an element of current research and discussion. It is still being investigated."
"Only a small fraction of the energy from the collapsing towers was converted into ground motion," Lerner-Lam said. "The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small."
Last November, Lerner-Lam said, "During the collapse, most of the energy of the falling debris was absorbed by the towers and the neighboring structures, converting them into rubble and dust or causing other damage — but not causing significant ground shaking,"
Evidently, the energy source that shook the ground beneath the towers was many times more powerful than the total potential energy released by the falling mass of the huge towers.
TEST FOR EXPLOSIONS?
While steel is often tested for evidence of explosions, despite numerous eyewitness reports of explosions in the towers, the engineers involved in the FEMA-sponsored building assessment did no such tests.
Dr. W. Gene Corley, who investigated for the government the cause of the fire at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing, headed the FEMA-sponsored engineering assessment of the WTC collapse. Corley told AFP that while some tests had been done on the 80 pieces of steel saved from the site, he said he did not know about tests that show if an explosion had affected the steel. "I am not a metallurgist," he said.
SELLING THE EVIDENCE OVERSEAS
Much of the structural steel from the WTC was sold to Alan D. Ratner of Metal Management of Newark, New Jersey, and the New York-based company Hugo Neu Schnitzer East. Ratner, who heads the New Jersey branch of the Chicago-based company, quickly sold the WTC steel to overseas companies, reportedly selling more than 50,000 tons of steel to a Shanghai steel company known as Baosteel for $120 per ton. Ratner paid about $70 per ton for the steel.
Other shipments of steel from the WTC went to India and other Asian ports. Ratner came to Metal Management after spending years with a Sydney-based (Australia) metal trading firm known as SimsMetal.
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Boomer Chick
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:24 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by Thetaloops:
Again TPTB create another tradegy. To what degree they stood down or made the towers fall, I'm not 100% sure, but life has become a real live horror show. The Arabs vs the Christians. A big boxing match with more and more innocent by standers taking the blows.
Loosing their lives and limbs and jobs. We as a race and a species have better look to how to prevent this from continuing. We're not going to get many more chances. We have to VOTE these jerks out or we're finished.
RIGHT ON! The Dems may not be angels, but the change would be in the right direction!
We can work on changing the damage done to the system later! For now -- well, YOU KNOW!
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Swamp Gas
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:32 pm
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Exactly our sentiment, Boomer. We have to reverse the direction this country is heading, and a neutral Demo would be better than this "Agressive Zombie" in power now.
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Boomer Chick
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 5:20 pm
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Actually, I think that arrest and impeachment is in order BEFORE the election!
Mech and SG? YES! The theme of Christians verses Islamics is obvious! The Koran is rife with statements against INFIDELS.
But this is Biblical:
quote:
I JOHN 4:18 There is not fear in love but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
All is coming to light!
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JerseyBluEyz
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:43 pm
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Whoa people! A lot has gone on here over the past few days – glad to see it. I spent some free time this week (whenever I could find it) researching and reading all kinds of information from both sides of the coin. It was a little rough watching the videos though (felt like I was reliving the horror). All I can say is if someone does not find discrepancies after doing their own research - they’ll NEVER get it. STOP listening to the programmed media version of facts!!! If I’m repeating something recently posted, I apologize - I still have to read everything since my last visit.
* WTC temperatures reached 1,500 F (the published media figure).
* Jet fuel (burning in air) can reach a temperature of 1,520 F.
* Typical house or office fires burn at 1,700 F.
* Steel melts at approximately 2,800 F.
* Bodies cremate or vaporize at 3,200 F.
Because the WTC fires were fuel-rich, as evidenced by all the thick black smoke, the temperatures could not possibly have reached the 1,520 F jet fuel burning limit. Expensive energy mixtures such as oxygen or acetylene would have to be present for temperatures to reach high enough to cause structural steel damage. Don’t forget, someone on the 78th floor of the south tower stated they hung around for 15 minutes after the impact (impact level was the 80th floor). Proof, that it was not THAT hot in there! Within 30 minutes of this person’s leaving the scene, something happened to cause the steel structure to collapse. Since heat was not the culprit in either of the buildings, what was?
The concrete on one level = 1 acre x 4”. That’s a lot of concrete between the two buildings. Looking at the aftermath photos, there are hardly any blocks of concrete but dust abounds. What does it take to pulverize concrete? The only possible answer in this case, other than an intentional source, is the gravitational energy of the building. “Any extraction of this energy for the disaggregation of the concrete would decrease the amount available for conversion to kinetic energy, slowing the speed of the falls”. And still the buildings did a free fall – which means gravity was not the culprit for the concrete dust. Its ridiculous to even THINK that it was! Watch the videos, you can see a HUGE BURST of concrete dust PRIOR TO THE COLLAPSE.
Mark Loizeaux, the consultant for removing the debris, said there were “hot spots of molten steel in the basements”. Loizeaux also said the hot areas were found “at the bottom of the elevator shafts, down 7 basement levels”. Whoa – that’s pretty deep! We know for sure that is where the molten steel came from because it was found weeks after the rubble removal started – this was also confirmed by NASA. Once again, proof of a culprit! What caused the basement steel to melt?
At first the state’s chief forensic pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, said "recovered tissues will likely be identified because bodies are not cremated — or burnt beyond the ability to be identified — in the type of fire that occurred at the World Trade Center”. Eventually, the CHIEF medical examiner, Dr. Charles Hirsch, reported that many bodies were "vaporized". Now we’re back to the culprit again - what kind of energy was created to vaporize bodies?
Seismographs showed the plane crashes caused slight ground shaking. But at the beginning of each collapse, there was unusual seismic activity. The significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred BEFORE the debris hit the ground. What’s up with that? Whatever it was, it shook the Earth MORE THAN all the mass that hit the ground!
It is my opinion that the culprit was not just explosives, but a combination of explosives and another high energy source.
FIRE THE LIARS!!!
This was one of my favorite reads - I laughed when he said how "smart" the terrorists must be, blah, blah: http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_i.htm
P.S.’s:
Thetaloops: Glad to see you’re posting here too! Welcome (its about time girl!).
Wolf_Larson: I’m glad you got a kick out of that Godzilla post at indymedia. When I first saw it I just knew you’d like it. It gave me a chuckle too. |
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Thetaloops
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:50 pm
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With all this evidence:
*the seismic readings exactly at the point when both buildings collapsed.
*the molten steel in the basement, where it was too cool for this to be without an explosion.
*the witnesses seeing flashes & hearing explosions
*then the selling off of the steel before testing whether or not there were explosions
It's just so evident.
I have no problem with having religious beliefs, but when they prevent intelligent people from realizing the scientific proof, It really is upsetting and dangerous.
SG, BC and those of us who realize the truth, we can't let up now. As you said:
quote by SG 'and a neutral Democrat would be better than this "Agressive Zombie" in power now.'
And by continuing to speakout:
quote by BC 'All is coming to light!
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Thu Oct 02, 2003 10:43 pm
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Seems to be another conspiracy theory. Anybody who's seen the live videos of the towers collapsing know that they began to collapse in the area where the airplanes struck. The rest was sort of a domino effect on its way down. If it were a controlled explosion from the base of the building, then why was much of the base still standing? The parts still standing were also a canditate for being used as a monument. There are literally thousands of photos of this. Just look at the videos. It's 'plane' to see. (Get it?)
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