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letxa2000
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Analysis of Radar Anomalies (Part 2)
 Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:47 am
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This is a continuation of the original radar anomaly thread which has been closed because it grew too long.
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Mojoman: It is those 2 radars plus Cheyenne Wyoming. The next one up the rockies would be Billings.
Ok, but again I ask: Do you think the two radars in Colorado (plus Cheyenne) cause or effect the weather or the lows in the area, or do you think any given anomaly at these radars is an effect of the weather?
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Mech
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Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:00 am
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Lol! Couldn't resist...huh Letxa!
Enjoy. Keep it clean. |
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letxa2000
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Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:50 am
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Well I've been out of circulation here for a little over a week since the disk space problems that CTC had at the end of last month. I thank Mech for relaying my problem to Thermit and Thermit for fixing my password which allowed me to login again.
If Mojoman is still hanging out here, I'd very much like to know whether or not he believes the two radars in eastern Colorado (Pueblo and Denver) are causing the weather to change or are being affected by the weather? If he believes that the radars are causing the weather to change, I'd like to know whether or not he thinks such changes are intentional or not.
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Mech
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Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:12 am
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Lol!
Me is laughing my ( | ) off!
You'll never let up on him eh..Letxa?
Can't knock you for your tenacity. |
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letxa2000
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Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:15 am
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Originally posted by Mech:
You'll never let up on him eh..Letxa? Can't knock you for your tenacity.
He's my hobby. 
I'm just trying to get some answers. I figure either he'll eventually demonstrate he's right or I'll eventually demonstrate he's wrong, or he might just demonstrate that my understanding of what he says is completely wrong. In any case, works for me. As long as we're talking and having fun, it's all good! |
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letxa2000
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Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:24 pm
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From Mojoman:This low is hovering over this radar and it has a constant beam going southwest
There have been "beams" going to the southEAST for weeks, if not more. Here's an example from March 29th. Here's one from March 24th. And here's another from March 19th. I haven't seen too many to the southwest, though, even recently.
The low in question was simply pushed down over the last 36 hours by a cold front that is moving down from the north. In fact, my latest weather map shows the low has pushed out of the Amarillo area and into New Mexico--I don't see any evidence over the last 36 hours that the low "hovered" over Amarillo--it just moved passed it. And most of the anomalies at Amarillo have been to the northeast, not the southwest.
So I guess the question is what is Mojoman suggesting here? The low moved south ahead of a cold front and moved past Amarillo, a radar that has frequent anomalies and although Mojoman suggests the anomalies are to the southwest, the vast majority are to the northeast. All these anomalies occurred long before the low pressure system moved by and will most likely continue to occur after it has left the area. There's no indication that the low had anything to do with the anomalies nor that the anomalies had anything to do with the low.
So what's his point?
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letxa2000
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:12 pm
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Mojoman said: his is the panhandle radar. It seems to have spokes and an outer layer of activity. Looking in closer it has a steady beam directly west.
Once again Mojoman is misinterpeting anomalous propagation due to temperature inversion with something far more sinister. He's talking about this anomaly which flared up as a temperature inversion formed and which subsided early this morning as the inversion predictably disappeared with the warming of the day.
A message to confirm this with the operators at the Eglin AFB NEXRAD resulted in the following reply:
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:07:30 -0400
From: Eglin AFB NEXRAD operator (???@noaa.gov)
To: Letxa2000
Subject: Re: NEXRAD Imagery at KEVX
What you were seeing was a "starburst" pattern which was likely the result of a combination of ground clutter (trees, buildings, etc.) and anomalous propagation, a strong bending of the radar beam due to the atmosphere developing a very strong radiative inversion - warm air over cold air - last night. A check of the radar system monitor does not indicate any major problems with the equipment, but we are checking further, just to be sure. Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
Once again, it appears that mojoman is drawing all kinds of uninformed conclusions (or at the very least engaging in unwarranted speculation) based on an incomplete understanding of and appreciation for the ability of the atmosphere to play havoc with radar beams. Mojoman really needs to read about temperature inversions and anomalous propagation. The vast majority of the anomalies he mentions are due to these phenomena while the rest (such as Billings and North Platte) are due to external interference or internal hardware failures.
The more we see of mojoman's comments, the clearer it becomes we are just looking at everyday radar anomalies. |
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letxa2000
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Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:13 am
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Mojoman writes: There is a huge dome of thick air in the middle of the US down into Texas.[/url]
A huge dome of "thick air"? What in the world is that?
[quote]I believe the vacuum is very low right now! You can see it if you study the Unisys Satellite.[/url]
There is no vacuum, period. Mojoman still has yet to explain what in the world he means by "vacuum" which at one point he suggested had something to do with the "coming and going of the sun."
[quote]Mojoman writes: This shows 2 different levels or lines that these things stop at. The main one that goes north to south over the rockies will actually disappear from time to time. I have also seen magnetic strips cross the line. Now I am seeing 2 different lines. It seems to start at Galvestone up thru AK to indiana.
Once again Mojoman is looking at transmission errors from satellites and calling them "magnetic strips." As far as I've been able to determine, the imagery doesn't even measure magnetism so it's unclear as to why he thinks these images are even capable of capturing any magnetic variations.
Also, I assume he means that it starts at Galveston, goes up through Arkansas (as opposed to Alaska), and into Indiana. Not surprisingly, this coincides precisely with the border of the imagery available from the GOES Western Sector. Most likely this "magnetic strip" is just some software problem that patched images together and produced an anomaly at the eastern extent of the GOES Western Sector imagery.
It's no wonder his Yahoo group has 3 members.
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letxa2000
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Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:52 pm
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Mojoman said: Remember all that thick mist that was all over the US? It all coagulated into that slow developing low.
Thick mist? It coagulated? Into a slow developing low? Heheh. No science to be found here.
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It has grown quite strong and with that thickness I bet it is messing with peoples frequencies!
Thickness of what? And messing "with peoples' frequencies?" What in the world does that mean? What's my frequency and how was it assigned to me? And how would I know if someone was messing with it?
Mojoman's theories have been entirely discredited by my first study, the ensuing RadarMatrix thread, and my website which is probably why he is no longer participating here--what else can he say? At this point it's mostly just entertaining to watch what nonsense Mojoman will post next.
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electricmojoman
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Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:10 pm
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The amount of visitors to my site on average is 100 a day.
The yahoo forum with only 3 member is a separate forum that was specifically set up for myself to keep a log of my reports. I do not want members posting on it for that reason. However, I do have my original forum that has some 130 members and a closed door so you can only come in by invite.
Take your cheap shots and shove them up you ass! Quite being a little baby. If you don't believe it move on. You have no credibility yourself! My best opinion is you work for weathermatrix.com
Web site visitor numbers.
Dec 2916
Jan 3781
Feb 4630
Mar 2681
Apr 2664
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letxa2000
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Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:07 pm
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Mojoman: The amount of visitors to my site on average is 100 a day.
Well if we're going to get into "mine is bigger than yours," whoopy with your 100 per day. After just 2 months my site is already averaging more than that. Go figure.
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The yahoo forum with only 3 member is a separate forum that was specifically set up for myself to keep a log of my reports. I do not want members posting on it for that reason. However, I do have my original forum that has some 130 members and a closed door so you can only come in by invite.
I assume that if I wanted to subscribe to your original forum that I would be declined?
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My best opinion is you work for weathermatrix.com
I didn't even know about that site until my site was almost done. I briefly even thought about NOT finishing my site when I found weathermatrix. But then I realized that his work on radar anomalies was not complete so I went ahead with my own site. I certainly don't work for them.
Out of curiosity, do you plan on ever answering my question regarding the Colorado radars? Is it your belief that the Denver and Pueblo NEXRAD sites actually modify the weather and do so intentionally? Or what relevance does the "Colorado ridge" have?
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KNOW-THIS
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Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:35 pm
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"Well if we're going to get into "mine is bigger than yours," whoopy with your 100 per day. After just 2 months my site is already averaging more than that. Go figure"
You're the one that brought it up Lexta! Is he not supposed to defend himself? Who cares who's accidentally stumbled across your pitiful site anyway? You probably spend all day dropping links to unsuspecting victims randomly at messageboards just to be noticed. I'm sure upon arrival of your site they experience great dissappointment.
Oh yeah, I suggest that you get some much needed therapy for your narcissistic attitude, it's getting old fast!
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letxa2000
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Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:03 pm
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KNOW-THIS: You're the one that brought it up Lexta! Is he not supposed to defend himself?
Whatever. I was observing how many members he has on his Yahoo group, not his website traffic. His mentioning of another mailing list 130 members was certainly relevant. Boasting about 100 hits per day on a website that's been around for almost 2 years is kind of funny, though.
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Who cares who's accidentally stumbled across your pitiful site anyway? You probably spend all day dropping links to unsuspecting victims randomly at messageboards just to be noticed. I'm sure upon arrival of your site they experience great dissappointment.
I don't drop links at message boards. In fact, the only message boards I frequent are here, Mav's, 13th Century, and lately the Arianna forum. I think I mentioned my site on Mav's once and certainly here. The rest find the site all by themselves via search engines. Looking at the logs it looks like the vast majority that visit the site read about the radar anomalies and the hoax before leaving. I've already received several messages congratulating me on the site, and one from another software developer that is interested in developing his own software that will use radar imagery to analyze local weather over time and he was interested in how NAADP worked. Apparently he was a little more impressed with my "screen printer" than mojoman was.
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letxa2000
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:45 am
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Mojoman wrote: There is a lot of moister stacking up in the west. The jetstream is starting to develop into a major moister maker. Dipping down into the South Pacific and then into the US. Should bring lots of rain and storms soon. Radars over the Virginia area are staying flared up all day and night it seems.
One has to wonder if he is suggesting that the radars in Virginia are causing the moisture to "stack up" in the west and causing the jetstream to dip down over the South Pacific.
Plus it's not exactly dipping down to the south Pacific. According to Accuweather the jetstream was coming down the west coast of California and headed inland around Los Angeles. SFSU is about the same although it shows the jetstream diping down to about the middle of Baja California in Mexico--still a far cry from "South Pacific" (unless mojoman believes everything south of the U.S. in the Pacific counts as "South Pacific").
Still hoping for a response from mojoman on whether he thinks the NEXRAD in Pueblo and Denver have some effect on the weather or the "Colorado ridge."
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letxa2000
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Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:50 pm
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Unfortunately it seems that mojoman has bailed on this discussion.
However, while I was in Colorado last month I took advantage of the fact that I was close to one of these famous NEXRAD sites on the "Colorado ridge" (as mojoman puts it). I got in contact with the Pueblo office of the National Weather Service and asked if it would be possible to get a tour of their NEXRAD site so I could take a bunch of pictures for a virtual online tour, so to speak. Fortunately, they were able to accomodate me.
So, on Monday, March 29th (an absolutely beautiful day despite Denver having received an hour or two of pretty heavy snow the day before), I drove down to the Pueblo WFO (Weather Forecasting Office), met the people, and then followed the electrical technican out to the NEXRAD site and got a full tour of the site. I was shown the inside of each of the three buildings and took pictures of everything including the compuers, electrical equipment, cabling, etc. I got pictures of the NEXRAD site from all angles. And, to my surprise and delight, they even shut down the radar for about an hour so that the electrical technican could take me up the tower and show me around the inside of the radar dome itself! I obviously got pictures of that, too.
Anyway, for those that are interested in the online tour of the Pueblo NEXRAD site, feel free to check it out here. I saw and took pictures of pretty much every square inch of the site. I didn't see any weather modification equipment, but if someone can spot any in the pictures, be sure to let me know!
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