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Should FCC fine Oprah?
 Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:14 am
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WASHINGTON -
AVN.com Reports- the first step of Howard Stern’s call to action against the FCC crackdown on indecency is underway – the FCC today confirmed that they have received a number of complaints against the Oprah Winfrey Show for an episode that defined a number of sexual terms popular among teenage girls.
After Infinity Broadcasting was fined earlier this month for a Stern show that aired in 2001, Stern became furious when an episode of Oprah was rerun last week that contained terms comparable to the terms that led to Stern’s fine and requested that fans complain about Oprah to the FCC.
“We have received complaints, though I can’t say how many,” a spokesperson for the FCC told AVN.com
The next step is an investigation into the episode, which used terms such as “oral anal sex,” and “penis,” and other phrases that may have violated FCC regulations for broadcast programming.
“If they fine me for this, they have to fine Oprah. And if they fine Oprah all hell is going to break loose,” Stern said during his show on March 19, while attempting to play a clip of the segment in question. His producers beeped out all possibly offending phrases for fear of receiving another fine.
Stern posted a transcript of the segment and links to multimedia files of the segment on HowardStern.com, his official Website, and requested that people file complaints about the show on to the FCC.
Winfrey and guest Michelle Burford, an editor at O, The Oprah Magazine discussed the sexual behavior of teenagers on the Oprah episode “Is Your Child Living a Double Life?” The episode originally aired on October 2, 2003 and was rerun last week.
During the segment in question, Burford defined a “rainbow party,” as a group oral sex activity where women the girls put lipstick and then, “each one puts her mouth around the penis of the gentleman or gentlemen who are there to receive favors and makes a mark um in a different place on the penis.”
She also defined “tossed salad,” as “oral anal sex.”
Ironically, prior to joining the editorial staff at O, Burford worked at Focus on Family, one of the conservative Christian groups that are encouraging the current indecency crackdown by the FCC.
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:15 am
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http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=21323
Kimmel, Stern Toss Oprah's Salad
It looks like Jimmy Kimmel just might have lit a new fire in the indecency battle last night and it's not surprising that Howard Stern started fanning the flames less than six hours later. During last night's Jimmy Kimmel Live, the budding late-night television star started talking about the fines levied against Stern yesterday."Finally, the FCC today fined The Howard Stern Show and they fined NBC because of some alleged profanities," said Kimmel during the broadcast. "It's all nonsense. It's all a kneejerk reaction to Janet Jackson pulling her shirt open at the Super Bowl. They go after stuff they don't even listen to and they don't even watch to make people who write letters happy, but do they go after the filthiest broadcaster in American television? No. Untouchable. They leave her alone. And of course I'm talking about Oprah."Kimmel then went on to play two different clips from The Oprah Winfrey Show.Clip one went like this prah: Lets talk about that secret language Michelle.Michelle Burford: YesOprah: I didn't know any of this.Michelle: I have yeah, I have gotten a whole new vocabulary let me tell ya.Oprah: I did not know any of this.Michelle: Salad tossing, cucumbers, lettuce, tomatoes, okay.Oprah: Okay, so, so what is a salad toss?Michelle: Okay a tossed salad is, get ready hold on to your underwear for this one, oral anal sex. So oral sex with the anus is what that would be.Here is clip number two:Michelle: A rainbow party is an oral sex party. It's a gathering where oral sex is performed and rainbow comes from all of the girls put on lipstick and each one puts her mouth around the penis of the gentleman or gentlemen who are there to receive favors and makes a mark, um, in a different place on the penis. Hence the term rainbow. The bit got a good laugh from Kimmel's audience, and he cracked a good one liner, but when compared to the fine levied against Stern yesterday for defining terms like "blumpkin," "balloon knot" and "the David Copperfield," you can imagine The King of All Media's outrage. So, during his show this morning, Stern played the portion of Jimmy Kimmel Live that included Kimmel's set up, the Oprah clips and made sure he got in the one-liner. ("I have a feeling Stedman's in for a pretty good weekend.") Soon after airing the clip, WXRK/New York GM Tom Chiusano was in the studio to inform Howard that they bleeped the graphic sexually descriptions. "You bleeped it?" an alarmed Stern said. "But it aired on Oprah."When Chiusano confirmed that it did not air, Stern said, "There it is ladies and gentlemen. That's why I want to get out.""We don't have our free speech," added Robin Quivers."I think the point is that there is a double standard," explained Chiusano. "The standard we're trying to adhere to is the standard that we believe is the correct one. That, in my mind, is a clear violation of the standard."Stern and Chiusano went back and forth on why each thought their position was correct about whether the clip should air or not, with Stern at one point saying: "If they fine Oprah Winfrey for indecency, people are going to be outraged." He also added, "My point is play it, Tom. Don't bleep it. This is what's going to expose the hypocrisy. If they fine me for this, they are going to have to fine Oprah. And if they fine Oprah all hell is going to break loose."Stern might not be far from the truth, considering the times that Oprah's show airs on television. According to oprah.com, the show airs in her top markets at these times: WABC/New York @ 4pm, KABC/Los Angeles @ 3pm and 12:35am, WLS/Chicago @ 9am and 12:05am, KGO/San Francisco @ 4pm, WFAA/Dallas @ 4pm, WPVI/Philadelphia @ 4pm, KHOU/Houston @ 4pm, WJLA/Washington, D.C. @ 4pm, WCVB/Boston @ 4pm and WXYZ/Detroit @ 4pm. Despite the fact the the FCC dropped a fine on him yesterday, Stern actually started off his show quietly today, talking about MTV veejay JJ Jackson passing away and the continuing Courtney Love sideshow that made a stop at Bowery Ballroom last night. It wasn't until Mike Walker showed up on the show that Stern finally broached the FCC fine subject after the National Enquirer editor asked, "Do you think Karl Rove might have made a phone call to little general Powell, little Michael and said, 'Let's get this over with. Let's give him the fine and get this done with before Stern gets us all voted out of office.'""First of all, I know that for a fact," Stern replied. "I can't even tell you how, just like you can't reveal your sources. I have two sources inside the FCC. They know exactly what is going on. They had a meeting two weeks ago, freaking out. I seem to be making enough noise that people are realizing we could hurt George W. Bush in the elections. So they are trying to figure out at what point do they fine me. So, you are absolutely right.""This new fine that just came out is three years old," continued Stern "It has nothing to do with the new rules that came out. They are coming up with new rules every day. They are coming up with a new sensibility every day. So they went back three years ago, found a complaint, trumped one up against me and hit me with a fine. So now they have the old fine going, then as soon as the Senate passes this bill, they are going to hit me up with some new fines. The timing of this is such that rather than hit me with the massive fine, they figured they would do this one so it looks like they are doing something."When Walker suggested that Powell and the FCC's crackdown has now created a "left-wing Rush Limbaugh," Stern agreed that "they unleashed a monster" and he could "do a show 24/7 like that" but he wasn't interested in a doing that type of show. "I'll tell you what," Stern added. "I will get George W. Bush probably out of office. My fans are energized. 18-24-year old white males, who sometime vote, and sometimes they don't. They just need a cause and their cause is me. You know why I'm their cause? Because in the morning, they've got something to listen to and they know their show is being taken away. If you go to howardstern.com, I am now putting up there everything they bleep out on the show. And you start to see how the show is being dicked with, these guys who listen to me, working men and women, will vote against him, just because they are dicking with the show. They don't need any other reason.""Florida is a swing state," said Stern, going into political mode. "Miami and Orlando, there are so many pissed off fans that can't get the show now, that you have no idea how many votes this guy cost himself. Keep fining me. Throw me off the air, dudes. I am ready to go just to see you go too."
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Mech
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:49 pm
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Seems like Stern is making a point about the FCC's hypocricy. Go after the dude with the long hair and sexy guests...but leave "wholsome" Oprah alone.
The whole thing is ridiculous really.
Funny how Germany and France don't seem to have this hangup with words. |
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:25 pm
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He couldn't even read the actual, unedited OPRAH transcript on his show this morning, simply because it was coming from his mouth. The same exact words, just a different person, then all of a sudden the potential for fines? This has gotten way out of control now. |
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Mech
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:29 pm
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Peoples sex drives is the one thing the government can't control...if they could find away to do so i'm sure they would. Utimately this whole thing isn't about "protecting" anyone.It's simply, in one word all about CONTROL. Parents need to do their job so the government doesn't become even more of a socialist regulator than it already is. |
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:18 pm
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http://www.opednews.com/pitz041704_stern_christian_right.htm
HOWARD STERN:
Road-Kill on Bush Crusade To Christianize America? Or Will Stern Be the tipping point that sends Bush slithering back to Crawford
by Frank Pitz
OpEdNews.Com
Ever since Janet Jackson’s boobilicious breast baring of Super Bowl Halftime fame the Christian Right wing nuts have been going ballistic. Not one to let a political opportunity slide by, Karl Rove and his boy in the White House – along with a few hand-picked moral nuts at the FCC – have ramped up the assault on the First Amendment by doling out exorbitant fines for “obscenity.” Clear Channel Radio – one of the larger Bush contributors – joined hands with a vocal minority of Washington obscenities (known as lawmakers) and fired Stern. Stern is not folding his tent and going away quietly into the night. The campaign being mounted via his web
site – is drawing the attention of a vast, and diverse audience. Stern’s attacks against Bush could have an effect at the polls in November, this given the fact that the overwhelming majority of Stern’s reported eight million listeners are white males, and just happen to be part of that white voting bloc which is “cooling” towards Bush. The media pundits – and the Bush camp – tend to discount this as just so much rhetoric, but Governor Pataki, Christy Whitman, Rudy Guiliani, Arnold Schwarzenegger and other politicians know how much clout Stern can wield with the white male voting segment.
It may not be as large a group as those “NASCAR Dads,” however it is a large enough crowd that if this Presidential race is as close as the polls suggest Bush might just find himself on the proverbial “$#@#! end of the stick.” And that is one obscenity I would pay to see – or hear.
This rush to legislate morality – as we all know – is just one small part of the larger agenda to “Christianize” this country; (and in no small part the world) “one nation under God” and all that jazz. It is just one element of the right-wing crusade – both domestically and internationally – hatched by Bush’s neocons and their Christian Taliban to place their God stamp on all policy emanating from Washington. Bush’s waging war against the Muslim world – depending on one’s view of history – could rightfully be called (a) either the 7th Crusade; or (b) the 13th Crusade. Since the cowboy from Crawford (or his neocons) have no clue about history, they most assuredly do not know that the crusades – no matter the number – failed. (Historians may fault me on that as most agree the First Crusade in 1096, launched by Pope Urban II was the most successful. It did establish the Latin Kingdom in the Middle East). Ironically enough, the Sixth Crusade of Frederick II in 1228 was a “moral crusade,” and he had to settle for a negotiated settlement; what we are seeing in Iraq is like déjà vu?
People went on crusades out of religious and moral convictions. Kings (as well as Presidents) viewed it as an opportunity for glory at home; as well as amassing
landholdings (oil?). Merchants perceived a chance for quick gain (Haliburton, et al?)
But the crusades failed, and according to historians what follows are but a few reasons:
“Poor tactics and strategy and the inability to adapt to military methods suitable from the region and the enemy. Lack of geographical knowledge, and never incorporating the allegiance of the local people.” Perhaps someone needs to get George Bush to a history teacher?
Those leaders who waged the crusades recruited, or forced the “lower classes” into their scheme with promises of reduced taxes, education, and other benefits; sound familiar yet? As that great philosopher Yogi Berra once said: “déjà vu all over again.” There are no benefits Bush can offer to the well over 700 American men and women who have died for his crusade. And King George has as well, cut the benefits which the thousands of wounded – that our government keeps hidden away – would normally expect as they try to adjust to life as walking – or wheelchair bound – combat veterans. As the Kings of the past have failed, so also will King George, the tragedy of his folly is manifested in the death and destruction he is perpetrating upon the innocents he slaughters daily. Illegal crusades have never stood the test of time – or the people – and George W. Bush will reap also as he sows – to quote that Bible he is so seemingly fond of.
I’m not quite sure just how this piece segued from Howard Stern, and the First Amendment into a history lesson and an indictment of George Bush – but it has; and that’s a writer’s prerogative. This writer has lived long enough to see this great country survive the likes of Joe McCarthy, as well as J. Edgar Hoover and other tinhorn despots; the people of this nation eventually awaken from their stupor and take back the rule of law from the fascists. Come November, George W. Bush will be returned to that slime from which he oozed forth, I have faith in America.
Peace
Frank Pitz
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Mech
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:35 pm
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"This rush to legislate morality – as we all know – is just one small part of the larger agenda to “Christianize” this country; (and in no small part the world) “one nation under God” and all that jazz. It is just one element of the right-wing crusade – both domestically and internationally – hatched by Bush’s neocons and their Christian Taliban to place their God stamp on all policy emanating from Washington."
Personally..I have nothing against Christians...but when GOVERNMENT beats people over the head with a particularly (albeit inaccurate) version of christian morality...people need to nip government power in the bud. That's how WARS are started.Basically an ANTI-christian philosiphy. |
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:29 am
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It is an immoral, politically expedient, warring version of Christianity, and if Jesus ever came back and saw what humans have done in his name, he'd be pissed and sad.
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:32 am
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"Bush’s waging war against the Muslim world – depending on one’s view of history – could rightfully be called (a) either the 7th Crusade; or (b) the 13th Crusade."
The 7th or the 13th crusade, of course, lol, couldn't see it being any other number. |
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:21 am
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More FCC hypocrisy:
Radio Hosts to Pay Price for Fooling Fidel
Wed Apr 28,10:09 AM ET
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=3&u=/nm/20040428/od_nm/odd_castro_dc
By Jane Sutton
MIAMI (Reuters) - Two Miami radio hosts who duped Cuban President Fidel Castro (news - web sites) with a prank call are soliciting pennies from their fans to pay a $4,000 fine proposed by U.S. regulators because of the on-air stunt.
Talk radio host Enrique Santos said the fine made no sense, so he and co-host Joe Ferrero will pay it with 400,000 cents, delivered in person to the Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) in Washington.
"We prank-called a head of state in a country that is considered hostile to the United States. He's a violator of human rights and they're fining us $4,000," Santos said on Tuesday. "We just find it absurd."
Santos and Ferrero host "El Vacilon de la Manana," or "The Morning Joker," show on Spanish-language radio station WXDJ-FM in Miami.
On June 17 they phoned Cuba's foreign relations ministry and pretended to be aides to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, an admirer of Castro. They said Chavez needed to speak urgently to Castro because he had lost a suitcase full of sensitive documents during a recent trip both leaders made to Argentina.
The call was transferred through several government officials and when Castro came on the line, the pranksters used recorded snippets from a Chavez speech to make it seem the Venezuelan leader was calling -- phrases like "Fidel," and "How are you?"
After getting Castro to agree to hunt for the suitcase, they called him a killer and told him he was on a Miami radio show. Castro replied with a string of curses and hung up.
The call was broadcast five times over two days, to the delight of Miami's Castro-loathing Cuban exiles.
But the FCC (news - web sites) ruled last week that the station violated a regulation requiring that participants in phone conversations be told in advance if the call is being broadcast.
"It was in fact the intention and result of WXDJ's actions to fool and surprise the recipients of the call," the FCC said.
The commission proposed a $4,000 fine against WXDJ and gave it 30 days to pay it or contest it. Santos said station managers had not decided which to do, but that he and Ferrero would hold an on-air penny drive outside a furniture store on Thursday to raise money for the fine.
"The listeners are just outraged," he said. "We're asking people to just go through their drawers and cars for any old pennies and drop them off."
The FCC said it acted because it received an informal complaint about the call, but did not say who complained.
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