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ABC123
Joined: 25 May 2001
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HAARP, ozone "holes" & chemtrails
 Thu Jun 07, 2001 9:20 pm
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Well, I know that I told you that I have been doing a lot of thinking about this issue. I guess that Amber was right  ...Orwell might be proud that I actually jot down my thoughts on this controversial subject. I know some of thes thoughts are a bit off-the-wall; however, in the end, we need as many theories as possible in order to construct a plausible explanation for these all-too-real phenomenon.
Well (deep breath), here goes my latest little way-off theory for the day :
1. Most of us know of the HAARP project. I in know way claim to be an expert on that subject, but from the information I have gleened I will briefly relate as follows: HAARP is a project designed to utilize the uppermost layer of our atmosphere (I believe the ionosphere) to relay instantaneous messages/data across the planet. "They" do this by sending INCREDIBLY large amounts of electricity into that section of our atmosphere. The ionosphere then acts like HUGE radio transmitter and the messages/data is received almost instantaneously across the world.
I have my own personal thoughts on HAARP. Apart from the chemtrail issue, I believe that wildlife in general and most likely mankind are being effected by these electrical currents in our atmosphere. We all know that whales, dolphins, bats, birds etc. all rely upon extrasensory methods of locating their destination. I am sure that HAARP's use of electricity in our atmosphere is throwing-off the natural Earthly magnetic balance that these animnals (and possibly us) need to circumnavigate and possibly survive. It is possible that humans are being effected by this also, but is ways that we pass off as "sikness", "dizzyness" or generally feeling "not right." The Earth's magnetic field is very fragile. Perhaps the mass electrical imput into our atmosphere by HAARP is causing a replorization effect upon that field, similar to the effect a giant electromagnet would create. There also have been numerous studies conducted on people who live near power lines/magnetic & electrical zones that suggest a very high incidence of cancer. Well, if HAARP is indeed causing a Earth-wide electromagnetic effect, then we are ALL seriously at risk of cancer and other problems.
2. This brings me to my second point. Most of us are aware of the large polar ozone "hole" in our atmosphere. Many are not aware, however, that there is now actually more than one hole out there. If you were using the atmosphere as a means to transmit data, wouldn't you want your "transmitter" to be in top-notch shape? Well, right now the ionosphere and other parts of our atmosphere have HOLES in them! Visualize for a moment that the atmosphere is a "blanket" around the Earth. Well, that "blanket" would have several moth-eaten holes in it. Effectively, these "holes" are like trying to communicate through "swiss cheese." I am sure that data/communications are lost and I am sure that "they" are not happy about that. Needless to say, "they" are not willing to put an end to the pollution, etc. that is causing the "holes." How could they "patch" the holes? Well, as many of you are aware, the constituents of chemspray have been analyzed and often found to have polymer-like threads. These threads are often found draped lightly across cars in tangled in trees. You can see them if you use the "coronal" technique of looking into the sun. It seems plausible to me that "they" have to somehow "patch" these "holes" in the atmosphere in order for their little project to work. I propose that this MAY be a reason for continued, frequent and nationwide spraying. Of course, "they" would need to spray over-and-over again because the wind will inevetably carry their little "patches" away and disperse the contents to the ground...
Well, enough said...Told you I had some way-out thoughts ...curious to hear your persepectives on this theory. 
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ABC123
Joined: 25 May 2001
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Fri Jun 08, 2001 8:59 am
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Aww.... C'mon guys! It took me a LONG time to write down this little ditty here.... isn't there anyone out there with an opinion? Thanks! |
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Fri Jun 08, 2001 9:28 am
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ABC
Another use for HAARP,if I understand correctly, is for over the horizon ground penetrating radar. They bounce a signal off of the ionosphere back to the ground looking for bunkers or other things hidden underground.
Also they charge the ions either neg or pos to change the direction travel of the ions,east/west, and in so doing can "aim" or direct the signal towards incoming missles.Using this directed beam to destroy the guideance componets and/or the heat shield so it hopefully will fall to earth or burn up.
So, if they are burning holes in the ionosphere, maybe they are trying to patch it up. So many things it can or could be.
I wonder though what all of the "things" are that fly around in the air. . There are things flying in all directions very fast. They look enlongated, maybe charged particles?
Really strange. Also check another thread for a post by TomE tonight from Portland. Now that is truly scary!!
Whatever is going on, one thing is for sure, it is not good for us or this planet.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by David on 06-08-2001] |
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ABC123
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Fri Jun 08, 2001 10:11 am
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Yes....I too have seen the particles fly around in the air (such as seen under a streetlamp)...It is sort of looks like the ash that you may see after a volcanic eruption.
Also, tonight we had a very large moon (almost full?)...While travelling out to the store for late-night "goodies" I almost had a heart attack when I saw a somewhat vertically-oriented chemtrail in front of the moon..It was VERY eerie as you can imagine! It almost looked like a cigar-shaped craft in front of the moon!
It's sad to see this "big blue marble" dying from human misuse...I think I'd dive myself crazy over this issue and the inability to "escape" it it it were not for my faith in God. I know that when I die I will go to a better place...But, I cry for the children of our future... Someday the people who are doing these acts will have to face a greater judge than myself.
What can you do as you watch the "wisps" of chem-gunk slowly waft towards Earth and you? I am soooo disheartened and dispondent....maybe it's just the time of the morning and the fact that I am tired, but this seriously depresses me right now. (Deep breath)...I'll try to get some sleep, pray and hopefully find answers in my blissful slumber. May all my friends here find the courage to perservere in the face of adversity, denial and ignorance. |
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Fri Jun 08, 2001 10:33 am
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When I look in a school yard, watch the neighbor children play, or enjoy a quiet day of fishing with my 12 year old grandson, I feel an overwhelming saddness.
Surly God is crying.
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padawan-learner
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Fri Jun 08, 2001 4:51 pm
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I, too cry for our children.
I also believe that sooner or later there will be a punishment for people who consciously choose to hurt our world and the people in it.
May these people receive second and third helpings of that punishment.
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
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Fri Jun 08, 2001 5:45 pm
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Hey P-L! Chem11 here, from SCA chat. Remember me? Do ya'? Huh? Huh?
I just wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to my arguements and taking that first step by beginning to post your thoughts and feelings on this issue.
I'm no fundimentalist christian, but I do feel that we will all be judged according to our actions, eventually. I also have a strong feeling that the brave souls willing to speak out against this travesty, will be rewarded in some fashion.
Sedona made an interesting observation on the CC board the other day;
We are not afraid.
I was mulling over this apparent contradiction at the time she posted, and I believe that the only way for people who are CT aware to overcome this fear is by facing it.
I should be scared. The harrassment and cyber-surveillance and attacks are quite real. This is the US military we are squaring off with.
I should be scared. I should be terrified, really.
But I'm not. And i find that... interesting. |
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desert flower
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Sat Jun 09, 2001 11:36 am
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David---God doesn't cry. God is saying ---get the f***k off you ass and DO IT. You gotta fight for this---and I'm not talking GUNS
DF |
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desert flower
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Sat Jun 09, 2001 11:41 am
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ABC123---we are totally on the same track.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by desert flower on 06-11-2001] |
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desert flower
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Sat Jun 09, 2001 12:03 pm
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RidesTheWind
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Sat Jun 09, 2001 12:06 pm
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Right on DF...Greetings again. It is way past time for everyone to get off their butts
and FIGHT for the right to be heard on this.
It appears the people are sleeping big time
here and else where these days.Apathy abounds
as does fear...Its too bad. I think it is definately time for me to move on and keep fighting. Posts go unanswered here most of the time except by a chosen FEW and why should one waste energy posting to a place
that doesn't hardly acknowledge them? Guys I hope all goes well here and would love to meet ya one day  I feel like I know some of you. But with that said I also have to say that for a group of collected strong intelligent beings as are located in this forum, not much is getting done except socializing to sooth the fears and ease the pain. Which is good and vital for all of ourselves, UNLESS thats all your doing. I hope it isn't. I think alot more time should be spent on brainstorming and taking action
spawned from that brainstorming. I for one have tried to motivate the mood here but it seems for naught. Take care you guys and stay safe.If something earthshattering takes place I will post it here and likewise I hope David will let me know God speed and get movin'guys. MOTIVATE!!! |
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desert flower
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Sat Jun 09, 2001 12:48 pm
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What the hell... I feel prolific tonight.
Here's the chemtrail letter I'm circulating in my neck of the woods:
My name is xxxxxxxxxxxxx, and I've been working with an environmental issue of probably the greatest concern to this planet. I'm talking about aerial spraying, commonly called "Chemtrails", taking place almost worldwide(all allied countries, anyway),on a near daily basis. Rainwater analyzed after heavy spraying in Espanola, Ontario, was found to contain 7 times the allowable limit for aluminum, as well as quartz, mica, and carbon black particles commonly used in cloud seeding. There is conclusive evidence pointing to weather modification as the reason for these flights. The flights in Canada have been confirmed by an airport official to be a "joint US/Canadian exercise" (illegal)and flights on the east coast of the US have been confirmed to be military operations as well. A US Arforce study, "WEATHER AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER:OWNING THE WEATHER IN 2025" describes how jet tankers flown by Weather Force Specialists are being deployed in "aerial obscuration" that spray chemicals to form "cirrus shields". US patent, "US5003186: Stratospheric Welsbach Seeding for Reduction of Global Warming" was granted to the Hughes Aircraft Company in 1991.The abstract for this patent states that using Wellsbach materials and the oxides of metals such as aluminum will radiate incoming heat back into the atmosphere. In 1998 Edward Teller(father of the H-bomb)advocated the use of a chemical shield to offset global warming, at a 1998 International Seminar On Planetary Emergencies. He stated it would take a mere billion dollars a year to put this plan into effect, a hundred times cheaper than the cost of reducing fossil fuel use.
So folks it would appear that the chemical composition of this planet is being altered so that multinational oil conglomerates can carry on business as usual, and the costly step of cleaning up the Earth's atmosphere can be avoided. And we consider ourselves the "intelligent species".
I've been working with this issue for about two years now, have taken hundreds of pictures and have written a couple of articles on this subject for my college paper, xxxxxxxxxxx, at xxxxxxx, where I'm enrolled in "Peace and Conflict Studies". I have six grown children and two granddaughters, both of whom have severe asthma problems.Doctors and hospitals report that asthma and allergy problems have increased many fold over the past couple of years. Other symptoms are gastrointestinal illness, fatigue, headaches, joint pain, dizziness, nosebleeds,swollen lymph nodes and flu-like symptoms often lasting weeks. Sound familiar?
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desert flower
Joined: 18 Apr 2001
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Mon Jun 11, 2001 7:04 pm
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Re:
I wonder though what all of the "things" are that fly around in the air. . There are
things flying in all directions very fast. They look enlongated, maybe charged particles?
Really strange. Also check another thread for a post by TomE tonight from Portland.
Now that is truly scary!!
Whatever is going on, one thing is for sure, it is not good for us or this planet.
David
Someone told me about a website that talks of "rods" --invisible (to us) apparently up to five feet long and flying around in the air. The person never got back to me with the site, but they said the subject has been talked about on Art Bell. All I know is that every once in a while my cat starts going nuts chasing things I can't see. Anyone? |
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Lulu
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Mon Jun 11, 2001 8:02 pm
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If God is crying David, then her tears are being siphoned off by chemtrails.
ABC, wow, what an idea you have. I do think HAARP ties in with chemtrails, and this long-term spraying project is here to stay. This is truly frightening and frustrating when no answers are forth coming and we are left speculating.
RTW, you're leaving us?! And I so enjoy your posts and enthusiasm. Say it ain't so. Please 
desert flower, I didn't get a chance to read your posts before they were edited. Too bad, I am interested in your thoughts, and I like your moxie! Excellent chemtrail letter you've composed
Speaking of rods, check out these amazing stills from mbx99, and on this page there's a link to animated rods. Truly staggering to see these "life forms" move in a leap-frog manner. There really are more things of this earth than we could EVER imagine!
http://liquid2K.com/mbx99/stills.html
If the sun is just right I can see particles dancing and darting around in the atmosphere, with a directional motive only the particles seem to know. The only thing my little black cat with the crooked tail named Zulu (Warrior) chases is my pet crow named Russell, all in good fun though
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Aura
Joined: 05 May 2001
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Tue Jun 12, 2001 12:31 am
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OK Guys, I too am tired of this BS! We are getting nowhere this way. We are like dogs chasing our tails and sniffing at bushes!
You now why the spraybastards are so blatant in our face. Because they know they can do it and not get caught. You know why they can't get caught- because they got this s!@# buried so deep in so many "legit" and "super-top-secret" programs that there is no way it can ever get tied together.
We have got to get ORGANIZED if we ever want to find out the truth. We won't be able to find all of it, but if we can get enough "circumstantial" evidence we can put up a fight.
We have to sort out what we KNOW, what we think we know, and what we need to know! Then we have to start putting it all together in some sort of intelligent order. We have to beat them at their own game!
The key is to have it be secret. We have to break up in teams, some chasing after chemical evidence, some chasing HAARP evidence, some chasing aircraft, etc,etc...
Then the real clincher is WE HAVE TO KEEP IT FROM EACH OTHER!!!
We have to have a Head Man, Top Secret Dog, someone we can TRUST...to recieve and sort and delegate to the teams....OK maybe a team to do this, but do you get the idea.
We just keep chasing the same leads, the same ideas, I doubt that TML is the only one laughing at us! I bet they won't be laughing when they read this...remember "Together we stand, divided we fall"
How many hours a day are you all putting in to this cat and mouse game? I know I am putting in too many, and I get more confused each day? You know I started all of this on a search for SPIRITUALITY! Hell I am losing what little I had not getting more! (Maybe another unsuspected side effect)
I say let's ORGANIZE and catch the damn mouse already!
End of Rant - Gee I feel so much better |
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